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Comments by "Jim Luebke" (@jimluebke3869) on "Modern Society Is Failing Men u0026 Women - Mary Harrington" video.
Chivalry means that if one man gets too handsy with a woman, that gives all the other men around her an excuse to get a different kind of handsy with him, with a clear conscience.
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"Girls you should settle for less" is not going to take hold. "Girls, you're not really the catch you think you are" is a more measured and reality-based principle.
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"Parasitic psychological contagion" This is the sort of thing that Christendom used to call "powers and principalities", I think. Emergent intersubjective phenomena have a life of their own.
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Market-mediated relationships were not so much raised up, as market-mediated relationships were the only ones spared. Only the capitalists had the power to resist the bureaucrats.
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@wyleecoyotee4252 Both can be true at once; in the old stories -- the ones where everyone got together in the end -- frequently the secondary characters paired off with one another, for a happy ending. That's the point here; it's not that there's more war between men and women nowadays, it's that we've forgotten how to make peace. Any society that does not remember, will wither and die. "Every woman marries beneath her" used to be the wry, vaguely sardonic wisdom. Everyone knew that everyone should be aware of it, but no one should take it too seriously.
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@wyleecoyotee4252 I doubt that mainstream is the same as taught. Human beings have a lot in common, which leads to common values. Men have a lot in common, which differs from what women have in common - so the values there will have a certain amount of commonality as well. "Taught" probably has more in common with "fashionable" than it does with "mainstream". If you look across cultures or back through history you'll see some commonalities, which are probably going to reassert themselves despite someone trying to "teach" a different "mainstream" using The Narrative(TM).
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