Comments by "Jim Luebke" (@jimluebke3869) on "Climate \"Science\" | Dr. Richard Lindzen | EP 320" video.

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  8. Looking at mid 20th century science fiction (Asimov, Herbert, Niven and Pournelle, etc) you see two themes: one, the cynical creation of religion(s), and two, the idea of civilizational collapse and recovery. Asimov's Foundation, Niven and Pournelle's Mote Prime, they deal with this theme. What if at some point, some influential people in the world decided that to recover after a global collapse, fossil fuels were essential, and we must maintain some reserves that are to be set aside as sacred, so that we could re-emerge into industrial civilization? Wind and hydro can't be used at industrial scale without existing industrial power. Nuclear and solar can't be used at all, without an industrial base. (Nuclear has the additional complication of region-destroying disaster in the event of a collapse.) That leaves fossil fuels as the key to civilization recovering from any Dark Age. As far as I can see, this explains some very strange aspects of today's environmentalism. The first is the abovementioned aversion to Nuclear. Then there is the tolerance of 3rd world countries' continued use of fossil fuels, to industrialize in the first place. Then, there is is the tendency of supposedly Green politicians, to import petrochemicals from other countries (like Venezuela) to power the United States. And finally, it explains why all of this is being pushed with the trappings of a religion. Aside from the fact that it seems to wander off into conspiracy-land, I'm having trouble finding problems with this theory.
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