Comments by "Jim Luebke" (@jimluebke3869) on "Israel, Immigration \u0026 Islam | Douglas Murray" video.

  1. "Hundreds of years or war, over what the Eucharist was" Christians still differ over the Eucharist, and yet we have peace. Curious, no? Perhaps this should lead you to reconsider your position. The wars happened because of the ambitions of the Hapsburgs, Bourbons, Vasas, Hohenzollerns, and various minor houses. You cannot with any intellectual honesty say, "But for the differences over the Eucharist, those wars would not have happened." You CAN say, "But for the ambitions of those noble houses, those wars would have not have happened."
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  2. "If the world were to create a Palestinian state, it would be one in which no Jew is allowed to live." It's certainly better for the two million Muslims who live in Israel that they can live in Israel, and it is certainly to the Israelis' credit that they can do so. Unfortunately, there are another five million or so Muslims in the West Bank and Gaza who have the same status in Israel that Jews would have in Palestine -- unwelcome, at gunpoint. Arguably the fact that this is in lands their families have been in for centuries, makes it worse. Israeli rhetoric like "A one-state solution would mean Israel would have to choose between democracy and being a Jewish [ethno]state, and ceasing to be a Jewish state is utterly unacceptable", is certainly gentler than the atrocities Hamas is calling for, but it becomes a difference in degree and not in kind, unless Israel exercises not just a combatant's proportionality but a policeman's restraint. For one, the "one-state" solution is Israel stretching "from the river to the sea". It is as opposed to a two-state solution, which is impossible now, due to the "facts on the ground" strategy pursued over decades by various Israeli governments, even as they held out a two-state solution as the final promised result of the "peace process". The fact that they were undermining that solution even as those negotiations proceeded, was disingenuous (to put it gently).
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  3. "Why don't the Jordanians take in the Muslims from the West Bank? Why don't the Egyptians take in the Muslims from Gaza?" As I understand it, they already took in all the ones that had the wherewithal to move. Looking at where Egypt and Jordan are right now, they don't seem to be able to feed / support their own populations through situations like the recent spike in global food prices that led to the political instability of the "Arab Spring". Is any of this incorrect?
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  4.  @Nobody-q2j  Either because European powers who saw them as pawns said they had to so that (some of) those powers' diplomatic agreements (and not others) could be fulfilled, or because Israelis with guns said they had to. There is, some might say, some disagreement as to the legitimacy or rightness of either of those answers. I have to wonder, if all Muslims were as peaceful as could be, would the Israelis tolerate a one-state solution that was only minority Jewish?
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