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Comments by "Efrain Rivera" (@EfrainRiveraJunior) on "The Dark Secret at the Heart of the Jehovah’s Witnesses | Informer" video.

The Jehovah's Witnesses treat CSA as a sin, not a crime. As such, they do not report these to the authorities unless required by law. And, even that is only left to the victims, which are groomed not to do it because that would "dirty God's name."
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@koreanhog5735 - Criminals are isolated, not shunned. Family members can visit them. Plus your example does not apply. If any person voluntarily leaves the cult, they are shunned as an apostate. Do they deserve to be treated as criminals?
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To the Jehovah's Witnesses, obeying their Governing Body equals obeying Jehovah. And disobeying thier Governing Body equals disobeying Jehovah.
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@koreanhog5735 - "Shunning of ex-witnesses does not break family ties." That is a blatant lie. Tell that to the thousands of people who have had no contact with their JW family for years. Contact with ex-members is not "discouraged." It's forbidden. Once again you are equalling not agreeing with the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body with being a criminal. What if a person decides that the CSA cover-up (a real crime) is something they don't want to be a part of and leaves? What if a person decides to accept a life saving blood transfusion? What if a person decides that the Overlapping Generations prophecy is ridiculous? Are you going to sit there and equal these people with criminals?
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 @adrianthomas6244 - Have you watched the Australian Royal Commission?
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 @adrianthomas6244 - Care to list those "false accusations"?
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@Mischief716 - That is a half-truth. First, it wasn't last year, it was last month that "the Governing Body has decided" to allow members to reach out to their disfellowshipped family, and invite them to start assisting the meeting again. If they refuse, they will continue to be shunned. And even if they start going to the meetings, active J-Dubs are only allowed to greet them when they arrive. Specific instructions were given to not have an extended conversation with these disfellowshipped ones. You will continue to be shunned until you are reinstated, which typically takes a year.
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"We might live in the world, but we are no part of the world." - This is hammered into the Jehovah's Witnesses from birth. Yes, they are an isolated group. If you are caught socializing with a non-JW, you will get in trouble.
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@Mischief716 - You obviously have no idea how abusive the Jehovah's Witnesses cult is if you are going to question the victims' "anger and bitterness." Arguing that other groups shun is not a defense. Because someone else commits a crime is not an excuse for you to do the same.
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Thanks for exposing their doble-talk. The Watchtower historically speaks out of both sides of their mouths, using half-truths to cover up their abusive ways.
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@koreanhog5735 - Only a Jehovah's Witness would make an comment this arrogant.
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Because they believe that they are above everyone else.
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 @mulenga873 - Your comments reflect your dark heartedness.
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@koreanhog5735 - Who are you trying to convince? Me or you? I'm not surprised by your play on words. That's the way the Watchtower trains its members. Once again, it's not a choice they're entitled to. There are consequences for not following the Governing Body's directives. But please continue commenting. That way people who read the comment section can learn how the Jehovah's Witnesses lie.
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@eyevanwillaims7368 - That's how I reasoned 30 years ago when Barbara Anderson exposed the CSA issues inside the cult. I eventually stopped lying to myself.
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@Mischief716 - People die because of this cult. Lives are destroyed because of this cult. Take a moment to think about the group you are trying to defend.
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Good for you!
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@Mischief716 - You need to keep up with your both accounts. You start a conversation as Mischief then switch to Koreanhog without noticing it. 🤣
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Exactly!
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@koreanhog5735 - You seem to be extra worried about people exposing CSA in the Jehovah's Witnesses. Are you worried that someone will expose you?
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I lost 32 years inside that cult.
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It's a dangerous cult.
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@timothykporsu2472 - Does it matter WHY someone is disfellowshipped? Does sleeping with someone, smoking, accepting a lifesaving blood transfusion, or just deciding that you don't believe in the Governing Body deserve a lifetime of shunning?
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I will watch it.
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@stoiccrane4259 - They change rules as frequently as they do their underwear.
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@CeceTvCeceTv - I'm not disfellowshipped. I'm not even disassociated. All I did was walk away from the religion, and every J-Dub family member and as called friends are shunning me.
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@Survivorwarrior101 - Have you spoken to a lawyer?
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@timothykporsu2472 - You wrote a lot but said very little. "Nobody is shunned for a lifetime. [...] The only way that happens is if the person is not repentant or does not quit doing the wrong thing." - So people are shunned for a lifetime. I'm not going to argue dogma. But I have a question for you. If a person wants to leave the religion because they discovered the CSA covered up by the WT, and did some research on all the WT's failed prophecies. They are not fornicating, smoking, or doing anything wrong. They believe in God and continue to live by Bible principles. Where in the Bible does it say that you must shun these people? Their only sin was not wanting to be part of a criminal organization called The Watchtower. And yet, you condemn them to an unbiblical life sentence.
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Seek professional help. Free yourself from this wicked cult once and for all.
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@plainwhitepaper3898 - According to the Watchtower, there is them, and there is all other religions, which they refer to as "Christiandom." Either you are different, or you are the same.
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@timothykporsu2472 - That was a lot of verbal diarrhea right there.
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@timothykporsu2472 - Oh! You can guarantee what I don't have. That's nice to know. JW Two Witness Rule: An J-Dub must have two witnesses to back an accusation, or a confession of the wrongdoer. If there are no two witnesses, and the accused denies the wrongdoing, you must leave everything in Jehovah's hands. I'm a former Bethelite and Regular Pioneer. Anything else you want to guarantee I don't have the facts of?
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@kant.68 - You are a JW who is watching an apostate video? Yeah, right.
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The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that by the fruit you will know the tree. When it's another religion, it's bad. But when it's them, "Every one produces bad apples"? Lovely!
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The Jehovah's Witnesses love to lie in court. Just watch a case in Canada concerning shunning. They blatantly states that they don't shun those who are disfellowshipped, which is a lie.
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So, because it happens elsewhere, it's OK for JWs to do it. Nice comment 👍.
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@kbotah2023 - "We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin." This is a half-truth and very disingenuous. The disfellowshipping arrangement is emotional blackmail designed to keep people inside the group regardless of them wanting to be part of it, and to force those who leave to return if they can't handle being ostracized by their family and friends.
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@luzelenakates9340 - The Organization's replies are full of lies and half-truths.
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Exactly!
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@Galactic_Galactic89 - Many J-Dubs have social issues.
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@lugi25 - Show me one Bible verse which says, "Overlapping Generations." I'll wait.
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@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon - This is sick. 😡
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The Jehovah's Witnesses will place the Watchtower's reputation over their own children.
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@DawnyaJones - Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses is "leaving Jehovah?" I escaped that organization six years ago. I'm more spiritual, moral, ethical, honest, and with a much more loving heart, than when I was a member of that cult.
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And the 80s and 90s.
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It's sad and disgusting how this cult destroys lives. I wish you the best.
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@lisasykes624 - No one calls the police. But they lie and say that they do. They do NOT! They are instructed to contact their Service Department who will determine if it is mandatory where they live. If it's not mandatory, the Elders are instructed to keep quiet.
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@timothykporsu2472 - At best you are being disingenuous. You wrote many words, yet said very little. Thanks to the Internet, you can easily find the facts about the Jehovah's Witnesses handling of CSA.
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@ec329 - It seems that you don't know anything about how the Jehovah's Witnesses work. Otherwise you would've understood the video and my comment.
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The Jehovah's Witnesses are a very dangerous cult.
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Thanks to the Internet, the truth about the Jehovah's Witnesses is being known. It is an abusive organization that destroys lives, protects pedophilia, and covers up CSA.
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 @Empath79 Before beards were prohibited. Now they are OK
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 @Empath79 - I gave you multiple examples but YouTube keeps deleting my comments.
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 @Empath79 - I recommend doing more research. The Jehovah's Witnesses change all the time. I used to think like you do. Not anymore.
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@koreanhog5735 - Accusations? The facts are easy to research, and they are undisputed.
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@koreanhog5735 - Oh! Please educate us on what equates "handling well" such accusations in religious settings. I'll wait.
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@koreanhog5735 - Shame on you! Too bad YouTube keeps deleting my response.
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@carlisroy6666 - Thanks! I don't know why YouTube keeps deleting my response to this person.
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And yet Watchtower apologists want to argue that normal family relationships continue. That shunning is a choice.
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@8linc8 I agree. Those commenting prove our point. J-Dubs are black-hearted.
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@Hammerhead137 - "How did they tear apart your family[?] You're the one [who] left." Spoken like a true J-Dub. The difference between a religion and a cult is what happens to you when you try to leave.
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@8linc8 - I remember when "being different" was something to be proud of the that cult. Now the rank-and-file shamelessly says, "That also happens in other religions." Just like you said, as if that makes it OK.
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@206dogg - Lies and more lies. You cannot "simply move on." You will pay a price for leaving the cult.
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@BelanovaRed - Being a JW is voluntary? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands that were born in the cult.
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@roxannemestas4380 - "Choose" to leave the organization and see what happens.
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@danhenderson3458 - Yes! They shun their family members if they get disfellowshipped.
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@TheTruth-g6f - I can give you Bible studies if you wish.
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@Trav83 - ???
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@DawnyaJones - Disfellowshipping (shunning) is a "loving provision from Jehovah"? Did you hear yourself?
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@luzelenakates9340 - For decades the J-Dubs were told that the internet was worldly and something to be avoided.
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Grow up.
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I agree.
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What stuff? The Overlapping Generations? That the end would come in 1914, 1925, 1975? Do you mean this stuff?
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@bluekabaw4754 - You are completely right! I'll go back and start deleting comments.
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@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon - Well said!
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The Jehovah's Witnesses are the biggest cult hiding in plain sight.
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@nicolarenshaw6460 - Exactly!
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@kant.68 - If you know so much, please show me where in the Bible does it say Overlapping Generations. I'll wait.
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@kant.68 - So much for being a real JW. 🤣 #exposed
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@lugi25 - I exposed you, @kant, as a pretend JW. You don't even know about the main JW teaching called the Overlapping Generations. No need to use your second account. 😉
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You haven't seen this program before, have you?
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@greaseweeklygames - Really? 🙄
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@greaseweeklygames - Idi0t spells whats.
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@greaseweeklygames - What's a welcome?
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 @Empath79 - Sure! 1914 - This Generation shall not pass. Now it's the Overlapping Generations.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - @talesbeyondgaming7551 - The members are told to go to the Elders for everything. When the Elders tell the members to either shut up or be disfellowshipped, they have made themselves responsible. The many lawsuits lost by the Watchtower confirm this.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - I was a JW for 32 years, Regular Pioneer and Bethelite. I know what I'm talking about. Please quote me where the Bible says that for some things you must approach the Elders, and for others the Professionals.
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I wish you a quick departure from that evil cult. Freedom has no price.
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@kbotah2023 - Why should you what?
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@harshitgarg419 - What assessment of the world are talking about?
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@derekmaverick5986 - The Watchtower is to arrogant to apologize, or admit that they are wrong. They'll rather blame Jehovah himself, saying that Jehovah guided them incorrectly, just to later give them "new light."
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@adrianthomas6244 - What is a false accusation? You need to be more specific.
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@adrianthomas6244 - Who's lying now? Were you or your friends ever baptized? Are any of you disfellowshipped? Are you all still POMI? You forget that we were all Jehovah's Witnesses, and know first hand how the Watchtower trains you in the art of deception by telling half-truths.
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@suranramdass1885 - I agree with you about the books.
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@adrianthomas6244 - Se honesto. ¿Estás expulsado? ¿Eres POMI?
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@adrianthomas6244 - Aww! Your lies caught up with you, and all you can do is repeat what I say. That's so cute.
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@adrianthomas6244 - And, of course, the only card you have left is calling me an apostate. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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@alee2233 - You are talking about making that choice. Jehovah's Witnesses don't have that option. They are ordered to shun their loved ones, including their own children, if for example, their children choose to not be part of the religion anymore.
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@JonesJincyG1979 - Disfellowshipping is not discipline. It's emotional blackmail, and it violates human rights.
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@jaredgutierrez9509 - What is Jehovah's mindset?
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@jaredgutierrez9509 - "It comes from Jehovah the Almighty God in his word the Bible the Governing Body. Who are you to question their authority." I fixed it for you.
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@jaredgutierrez9509 - I'll let you into a little secret. The Governing Body is not Jehovah.
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@mamajan99 - There is no mention of the terms, "disfellowshipped", "judicial committee", "repentance", or "reinstated." The actions of the JWs are based on their interpretation of that account.
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@Hammerhead137 - You waited for permission from eight men in NY to grow facial hair. How old are you?
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@luzelenakates9340 - "It is quite the logical, laid-back religion." I'm sure that you are NOT talking about the J-Dubs.
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@allks88 - Shunning is emotional extortion.
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@allks88 - It's entertaining reading all your lies.
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@allks88 - I know people, myself included, whose JW family have been shunning them for decades. Stop spreading lies.
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@bethschmidt1304 - Exactly. J-Dubs promote shunning, yet want to deny that they practice it.
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@carolwalters7069 - Show me one Bible verse that says "Jehovah God demands you to shun evildoers regardless of them being your family", and I'll agree with you. Jesus on the other hand shared the parable of the Prodigal Son. Hmm!
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@JonesJincyG1979 - Shunning is a "form of discipline"? Treating your own children as if they were dead is loving?
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@Jaesais - The only changes have been in their terminology. Members are not "disfellowshipped." They are now "removed." You can greet a "removed" person at the Kingdom Hall, but not talk to them. The shunning is still a real thing.
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@mamajan99 - You should read your comment out loud while looking at yourself in the mirror.
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@allks88 - Jesus "rocked with" the sinners and tax collectors. "Bible principles" are man-made rules created by the Jehovah's Witnesses leaders. You should follow your own advice about, what was it?, being delusional.
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@allks88 - I'm a former Bethelite and Regular Pioneer. I'm sure that I've read the Bible many times more than you.
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@allks88 - So the penalty of not believing in your delusions in a lifetime of shunning? Show me where in the Bible does it say that. Do you listen to yourself when you speak? To answer your question, Jesus hid when his people wanted to make him King. What does that have to do with shunning your own children?
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@DawnyaJones - Yes. Maybe you should break it down for me. Oh, and please do so in the same arrogant, condescending tone. I'll wait.
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@Mischief716 - Maybe you should pick up a hobby. You have spent months trying to defend a criminal organization/cult. It's like you're obsessed, it's unhealthy to be honest. I would never allow the lack of critical thinking to consume my mind daily.
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@allks88 - Your gaslighting has no effect over me. You can twist the evil practice of shunning whichever way you wish, but it's still an evil practice. What makes it worse is that you do so in the name of God.
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@Mischief716 - You might want to pick up a hobby. You've been in here for MONTHS trying to defend an evil cult. It's like you're obsessed, it's unhealthy to be honest. I would never let something like that consume my mind daily.
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@DawnyaJones - The Jehovah's Witnesses cult is not growing. Their numbers continue to go down. I advise you to Google which religions are actually growing.
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@DawnyaJones - Human imperfection is no excuse for CSA cover-up, a century of false prophecies, and violating human rights. If Jehovah is keeping his organization safe and clean, he's doing a lousy job with the Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
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@Mischief716 - Copy/Paste your comment. It's called projection. Look it up.
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@mamajan99 - You should do some research on the fastest growing religions. 😉
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@DawnyaJones - Prove you wrong? I'll have to be more specific.
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@allks88 - So Jesus hiding justifies shunning how?
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@Mischief716 - What you are doing is called projection. Seek help.
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@allks88 - I'm an Ex Bethelite and Regular Pioneer. I've read the Bible many times. Probably more than you.
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@Mischief716 - Projecting plus Gaslighting. The way of the J-Dub. 🤣
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@allks88 - I got my life right year ago. As the years go by, and you keep waiting for an End that will never come, you will remember this conversation.
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@Mischief716 - Right back at you, word by word. And by the way, this isn't about dislikes. Research the Australian Royal Commission. This is about exposing a criminal organization.
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@mamajan99 - And yet the once "narrow gate" keeps getting broader in the J-Dub community. No more counting time, beards, pants, no more ties...
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@Mischief716 - I have one question for you. Why do you care? I'm exposing a criminal organization. Why do you care?
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@allks88 - What are you talking about? Are you talking about the organization that is teaching the Overlapping Generations? That one?
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@allks88 - Oh! The organization that waits on "God's time." 1925, Beth Sarim, 1975, Overlapping Generations... That Organization? 🤣🤣🤣
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@allks88 - Please show me where in the Bible does it say, Overlapping Generations, Governing Body, or Judicial Committee. Show me where it says that you had to shave, or that women may or not wear pants.
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@allks88 - Jesus taught to feed and tend to the poor and in need. Show me where in the Bible does it say that the "preaching work" fulfills this command.
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@allks88 - The beards policy was changed recently. Before that there were no "Bible principles" to back it, nor there are "Bible principles" for the change. You have to have permission from your Governing Body to wear facial hair. 🤣
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@allks88 - Do you realize that you are equating questioning your Governing Body with questioning God? You said It yourself that the Governing Body is imperfect. They recognize that they are not inspired. Yet, if you do not obey them, you will be disfellowshipped (now "removed").
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@mamajan99 - You haven't been to a Kingdom Hall in a while. The Watchtower abandoned the types and anti-types a long time ago.
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@allks88 - You have "the truth"? Research the Australian Royal Commission, Beth Sarim, 1975. That will show you my point.
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@allks88 - You are regurgitating the Watchtower's excuse to not follow Jesus' command to tend to those in need. Tell me again how standing next to a cart equals feeding spiritual food.
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@allks88 - "You don't have to have permission"? Now who's the one who is lying? Your defense is, "We are right because we have the truth." But you don't provide any proof. And when proven wrong, you excuse yourselves by using the "imperfect" card. You can't have it both ways.
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@allks88 - Feel free to continue avoiding the Watchtower CSA cover-up, Beth Sarim, and 1975.
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@allks88 - No one said that you would get "removed" for using a beard. You need to keep up, bro! 😜 I'm an Ex Bethelite and Regular Pioneer, so, please. You know that if you refuse to follow the Governing Body orders, you will be "removed." Today's "new light" is tomorrow's apostasy.
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 @theonlyoneagain - Wow! I couldn't leave my wife for anything. That's sad.
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@ThatOneFoolDathan - Oh, you mean like all those eight-year-olds that are baptized and expected to live that life long contract? Or the many others that are forced into baptism by their parents like Tony Morris said they should?
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@PaulBrunke - "We do not shun" is a mayor lie.
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@dectractos - It seems like you have no idea how cults work. But, that's OK. Not everyone does.
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@dectractos - Yes, I do. 32 years wasted inside the Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
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@dectractos - Just do some research on the Jehovah's Witnesses. This comment section is too short, and YouTube will delete half of anything I post.
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@dectractos - Yeah, you know nothing.
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@dectractos - Define "Nothing."
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@dectractos - Nobody wants to say? I thought you did research? 🤣 You should start with the Australian Royal Commission.
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@dectractos - Just like I thought. If you feel like trolling, at least do your homework first.
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@garret - Your comment illustrates your ignorance when it comes to that dangerous cult.
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And much more dangerous.
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@belindacassidy6541 - What is an apostate?
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bourbon_sketcher - I'm asking @belindacassidy6541. I'm not holding my breath waiting for her to answer, though.
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Exactly! The Jehovah's Witnesses cult is a thousand times worse than what was depicted here.
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@rischakmeador186 - I'm not surprised, yet disgusted, that your father the Elder reacted the way he did. "Privileges first, family last."
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It's the format of the show.
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@tammyg8031 - 😲😢
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@j3in725 - The words in a Watchtower magazine trump anything written in the Bible. That's how the J-Dubs think.
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@MishelleBee - It's great to know that the Watchtower paid for what they did to you. Congratulations! I disagree that most people in the cult are lovely nice people. Anyone willing to shun their own children in the name of God is not a lovey nice human being.
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This should tell you how dangerous that cult is... Big man.
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@greaseweeklygames - Idiot spells whats.
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@j3in725 - Exactly!
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@Cotillion308 - I know, right?🤣
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 @Empath79 - "The rules never changed." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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 @Empath79 - I was a Jehovah's Witness for 32 years. The rules change every six months.
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@Empath79 - Sure! 1914 - This Generation shall not pass. Now it's the Overlapping Generations. Before beards were prohibited. Now they are OK Before no parts of blood were accepted. Now you can use fractions. Before organ transplants were considered cannibalism. Now it's OK. Before the 144,000 were the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Now it's only the Governing Body. Do you want more examples?
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 @Empath79 Before organ transplants were considered cannibalism. Now it's OK.
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 @Empath79 Before the 144,000 were the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Now it's only the Governing Body.
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@harshitgarg419 - How so?
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - Nothing you said makes sense. You clearly have no idea how the Jehovah's Witnesses work, or you choose to be part of the problem. The members are told to go to the Elders for everything. When the Elders tell the members to either shut up or be disfellowshipped, they have made themselves responsible. The many lawsuits lost by the Watchtower confirm this.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - @talesbeyondgaming7551 - Nothing you said makes sense. You clearly have no idea how the Jehovah's Witnesses work, or you choose to be part of the problem.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - Your example is wrong because the members are told to go to the Elders for everything.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - When the Elders tell the members to either shut up or be disfellowshipped, they have made themselves responsible.
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@talesbeyondgaming7551 - Who will have to answer to Jehovah?
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 @talesbeyondgaming7551 - Jehovah sets things straight? Is that why the WT continues to lose millions in lawsuits?
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Two peas in a pod.
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@koreanhog5735 - Why don't you also ask her the color of her underwear while your at it. 🙄
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@koreanhog5735 - Let me guess. You are an Elder. Why don't you ask her the color of her panties while you're at it?
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@koreanhog5735 - Accusations? You seem to be really out of touch. The fact is that the Watchtower is a pedophile heaven. If you are on the side of the truth, you shouldn't worry.
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@koreanhog5735 - Accusation? The facts are easy to research, and they are undisputed. He who's on the side of the truth need not worry.
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@koreanhog5735 - 1. They only comply now after losing millions in lawsuits. 2. You should feel ashamed of this fact. The Watchtower says that they do not harbor pedophiles. Yet unless the law forces them to report these criminals they gladly keep them covered up, not warning the congregation or the community. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a pedophile's haven. You should be disgusted.
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@koreanhog5735 - 1. They only comply now after losing millions in lawsuits. 2. You should feel ashamed of this fact. The Watchtower says that they do not harbor pedophiles. Yet unless the law forces them to report these criminals they gladly keep them covered up, not warning the congregation or the community. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a pedophile's haven. You should be disgusted.
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@koreanhog5735 - 1. They only comply now after losing millions in lawsuits.
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@koreanhog5735 @koreanhog5735 - 2. You should feel ashamed of this fact. The Watchtower says that they do not harbor pedophiles. Yet unless the law forces them to report these criminals they gladly keep them covered up, not warning the congregation or the community. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a pedophile's haven. You should be disgusted.
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@NonYa-l9t 💯
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This is very common in the disgusting Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
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100%
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@lugi25 - That is a half-truth. Disobeying the Governing Body comes with consequences.
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So you should choose the lesser of all evils?
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@jonnyhooks9943 - Kingdom Halls don't have windows in order to keep the cult members isolated while being brainwashed with the Watchtower's propaganda.
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@adrianthomas6244 - Again with the half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you active? Are you a POMI? I know the JW trick of running around in circles instead of answering questions.
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@adrianthomas6244 - More half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you a POMI? For once, tell the truth instead of running around it.
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@adrianthomas6244 - They are books that promote false prophecies such as 1914 and the Overlapping Generations. I would argue that Suran is correct.
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adrianthomas - Too bad that YouTube keeps deleting my comments exposing your lies.
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adrianthomas - Stop with the half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you a POMI?
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adrianthomas - These books promote false prophecies such as 1914 and the Overlapping Generations. I would argue that suran is correct.
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@adrian - Too bad that YouTube keeps deleting my comments exposing your lies.
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adrianthomas - Stop with the half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you a POMI?
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adrianthomas - These books promote false prophecies such as 1914 and the Overlapping Generations. I would argue that suran is correct.
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adrianthomas - Stop with the half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you a POMI?
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Stop with the half-truths. Are you disfellowshipped? Are you a POMI?
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@adrianthomas6244 - YouTube keeps deleting my comments. Have a nice life.
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@adrianthomas6244 - Ah! See? Doesn't it feel better when you speak truthfully? Don't pretend that J-Dubs are allowed to speak to disfellowshipped people. One thing is to have stopped going to the meeting and living as a POMI. It's a totally different ballgame when you're disfellowshipped.
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Te entiendo. Busca mucha información sobre los TJ, la Biblia y Dios. Cuando te liberes de las tres, serás verdaderamente feliz.
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@williamdesmarais4931 - Exactly! To the J-Dubs, disobeying the Governing Body equates to disobeying God. Sadly, they are to blind to see it.
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@carlisroy6666 - People like @Mischief716 think that they can lie through their teeth and people won't see such lies. All you need to do is go to their website, watch the videos played during the Regional Conventions, and see how shunning works.
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@Mischief716 - You obviously have no idea how abusive the Jehovah's Witnesses cult is if you are going to question the victims' "anger and bitterness." Arguing that other groups shun is not a defense. Because someone else commits a crime is not an excuse for you to do the same. People die because of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. Lives are destroyed because of this cult. If you don't know what you are talking about then 🤫.
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@Mischief716 - You obviously have no idea how abusive the Jehovah's Witnesses cult is if you are going to question the victims' "anger and bitterness." Arguing that other groups shun is not a defense. Because someone else commits a crime is not an excuse for you to do the same. People die because of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. Lives are destroyed because of this cult.
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@Mischief716 - You obviously have no idea how abusive the Jehovah's Witnesses cult is if you are going to question the victims' "anger and bitterness." Arguing that other groups shun is not a defense. Because someone else commits a crime is not an excuse for you to do the same. People lose their lives because of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. Lives are destroyed because of this cult.
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@jaredgutierrez9509 - Jehovah's Witnesses are forced to follow the Governing Body. There are consequences if they don't. And they have a "jail system" called disfellowshipping. Shunning and ostracism is a weapon.
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@DawnyaJones - First of all, the Jehovah's Witnesses aren't growing. Their numbers keep going down, and they keep selling Kingdom Halls. Second, the fastest growing religion is Islam. According to your logic, they should be the true religion, right? Third, Prove what wrong? Be specific. Fourth, "Jehovah's Witnesses are imperfect," is not an excuse for CSA cover-up, a century of false prophecies, and violating human rights. If Jehovah "keeps his organization safe and clean," he is doing a lousy job with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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@Mischief716 - Once again, what you are doing is called projection. Look it up. Your Welcome.
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@Mischief716 - So you choose to double down on your projecting, and add some gaslighting to it. You are definitely a J-Dub. 🤣
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@allks88 - "Bible principles" is a Jehovah's Witnesses invention.
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@allks88 - My point? You don't have "the truth." You are not "the truth." You are a criminal organization that protects pedophiles, and you need to be exposed.
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@adrianthomas6244 - Disfellowshipped people are shunned.
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@markjones1337 - Leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses organization is like trying to leave the Mafia.
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@markjones1337 - To you it's a joke. The tens of thousands of people trapped inside that cult are not laughing at all. You can't understand it, but you might want to show some respect.
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