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@bertoldriesenteil1430 Without wanting to get involved in this thread, just a small correction: Germany has agreed in the so called "2+4 treaty" to not have ABC weapons (which is not really a restriction since Germany is a member of both the NPT and the CWC) - but: there is no restriction on having submarines.
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@bertoldriesenteil1430 No, I do not agree. Especially not the part where you use arguments of the Reichsbürger movement. Of course Germany isn't allowed to have nuclear armed submarines since Germany is - as I said - a signatory of the NPT and has therefore committed to not develop or own any kind of nuclear weapon. Nevertheless Germany can have whatever weapons they want - except nuclear, biological or chemical. And that is nothing special since Germany signed (like most countries worldwide) both the NPT and the CWC. And of course do these treaties matter. The statement that the Americans wrote most of the german constitution is a lie directly from the Reichsbürger movement. For years I observe the Reichsbürger and fight them on the net and this is one of their core beliefs (and not true at all). Your whole narrative of Germany having a limited souvereignity is the second core belief of the Reichsbürger (and also wrong). Are you a Reichsbürger?! Oh and Ukraine being able to defend against Russia is a) not only an US achievment (Germany is second largest donator of military hardware to Ukraine!) and b) not only in America's interest, but in that of the whole free world.
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@bertoldriesenteil1430 I did not say that you ARE a Reichsbürger, I said that you use Reichsbürger arguments (and told you exactly where you did) and therefore asked you if you are a Reichsbürger. Your facts are wrong. 1) The german constitution was written by the "Parlamentarischer Rat" ("Parliamentary Assembly"). There were only german politicians in it that were sent by the state level parliaments. The allied influence (mostly US and UK, Frence not so much) was the demands that it has to be a democracy, it has to restore federalism and it has to have protections against becoming a dictatorship again. It is correct that the Allies had to approve the constitution after it was written (since at that time they were the occupying power) but that's it. They had some demands for changes when they thought they were necessary in order to get the demands I already listed and sometimes these changes were made and sometimes the Germans didn't make these changes and the Allies accepted that. So in short: Your "fact" that the German constitution was written by the Americans is just plain wrong and yes - it is one of the core beliefs of the Reichsbürger. 2) "Just because the Reichsburger mention that too doesn't mean that it is wrong" - Well, I have yet to read the first Reichsbürger argument that is true. Until now all I have read for them are lies. And I've been dealing with the Reichsbürger movement for years. 3) Your Nuremberg trial claim is a straw man argument so I won't respond to that. 4) "I didn't say that "Germany has limited sovereignty". Don't put words into my mouth." << What you say is contradictory. If Germany wasn't allowed to have certain weapons because the Americans just wouldn't allow that then this would mean that the US wouldn't abide to international law (yet they do!). And that would mean that Germany's sovereignity would be limited, because something (in this case a ban of certain military equipment) gets forced on them outside of a treaty. And that is another (untrue) core belief of the Reichsbürger: Germany isn't really sovereign, there are still the (in their view very evil) USA behind it secretly pulling the strings. And that is nonsense. 5) So if you're not a Reichsbürger (like you say and I have no reason not to believe you) then I'd guess that your facts are not wrong but outdated. You should think about the fact that until 1990 Germany was not fully souvereign. Therefore the US had some leverage to say that they don't want Germany to have nuclear weapons - that's why they insisted not only on Germany signing the NPT but also having it in the 2+4 treaty (that gave Germany back full sovereignity!) that Germany has to remain in the NPT. There was never a need for the US to ignore international law to somehow "under the hand" prohibit something - the US made it the official, the legal, the transparent way and that is an exemplary behavior by the USA that I really do not like to read being denied. Nevertheless since 1990 Germany is sovereign. The reason Germany isn't allow to have (and btw doesn't want to have) nuclear weapons aren't any reasons of "the US wouldn't allow that" but "the international law doesn't allow that since we signed binding treaties". 6) Quote: "I didn't say that "Ukraine being able to fight off Russia is only a US achievement"." Also a quote from you: "Ukraine has *with the help of some surplus americaln weapons*" (highlighted by me)
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@bertoldriesenteil1430 Sorry but you just want to argue in sake of having an argument. ALL I said (while stating NOT wanting to be involved in this thread) was that there is no ban for Germany to build submarines and now I have to refute time and again your wrong facts. Get a history book or search online but I don't have any desire to explain german history to you. So this will be my last post and I cut it as short as possible: - "Germany isn't a normal member of Nato" - Wrong. It is a NATO member like everyone else. - "The US and perhaps some other states pull the strings in that there are certain weapons (the expensive ones) that they would, in the forseeable future not allow Germany to have." - Nonsense. If you think otherwise then proove it. - "Americams wrote most of the German constitution" - No they didn't and since you're perpetuating it although I explained in detail how the process went then you are just a liar. "Hey, we want democracy, federalism, human rights so make sure to include that" was what the Allies (which btw were not only the Americans) basically demanded. And that equals for you "writing most of the constitution"?! The Paramentarischer Rat wrote the Grundgesetz and how many Americans were in it? NONE. The list is public in the internet! Name, party, federal state that sent them - even which of those german politicians wrote which part of the Grundgesetz. According to your 'logic' that means if I say to my brother "please write a fairy tale about an unicorn and a prince", he does and gives it to me then I "wrote most of the fairy tale"?! Wtf. - "that Germany is a vassal state is Putins narrative so I wouldn't mention it normally, but in certain respects which I find understandable and necessary, it is." - No, it is not. International law says otherwise, many examples of sovereign decisions the US didn't like at all they otherwise and NOTHING says you're right with that Reichsbürger myth you love so much. - "See for example the Budapest Protokol, the Minsk agreement, the Brexit deal, and as I said the German unification." - Yeah and what do they have in common? Surprise, surprise: They are treaties under international law! Just like the NPT, CWC or the 2+4 like I explained numberous times. - "America also applied the thumbscrews on Germany when it wanted it to take part in the second gulf war" - And did we? Nope. - "Trump threatened to leave Nato if the other Nato countries wouldn't meet their obligations." - Yeah - know why? Because there's a treaty for the NATO under international law that every NATO country signed. Again like I said: International law and treaties and not some pulling on the strings behind the scenes. - "You turn my words into the simple narrative "American thugs bully the world" - Which it comes down to, yes. My point was from the beginning that the US wanted Germany to not have nuclear or chemical weapons. They did it with treaties under international law. That's what I said. You insisted that the treaties don't matter. And want change my view: The USA is not a bully and in regards to Germany they were fair, just and asserted their interests by the way of treaties and not by pressure or blackmail. Again - EOD for me. All I said was that there isn't any restriction for german submarines and now someone wants to teach me how the german constitution actually was written...
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