Comments by "AholeAtheist" (@AholeAtheist) on "Eminem and the White Rapper Problem" video.

  1. I agree with this as an Eminem fan.
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  2. It is. The real crime is not including the SSLP in the same tier as the MMLP.
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  3. The Eminem Show is overrated by a lot of Eminem fans.
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  4.  @Gabriel-mn1zg  Incorrect. The production is too polished and boring, the songs weren't very diverse, like Soldier and Til I collapse are basically the same song, and WTF was that Saying Goodbye to Hollywood shit? White America and Square Dance were good, Business and Cleaning Out My Closet were kind of okay, but did we really need another song about is mommy issues? Sing For the Moment was good for the moment but a bit cringe retrospectively. Like, c'mon "lil bro", you can't be serious.. That lil bro shit is funny too, considering that if you like the Eminem Show so much I bet you're younger than me(37).
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  5. LOL. This is a bad take that needs to die. The Eminem Show is easily his 3rd if not 4th best album.
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  6. Hatchetman tattoo detected.
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  7. Nah, the Eminem Show is a bit mid bro. I agree with you about the SSLP though. Wild he didn't put it up there with the MMLP. Never heard of Benefit, but might check him out myself. You should check out Tom Scott(Home Brew, @Peace, Average Rap Band, Avantdale Bowling Club) if you don't already know of him.
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  8.  @bilgetigin  You're wrong. That's the exact reverse order.
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  9. TBH, he's right to call the Eminem Show mid, but the Slim Shady LP is equal to, or better than, the Marshal Mathers LP. I would say there's actually a good argument for Encore being considered better than the Eminem Show. It actually has some quite mature moments(MOSH, Yellow Brick Road). I actually think if he went more down that road of political/mature rap more like Common or dead prez, then he would've had a better latter part of his career.
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  10. I'm in some hip hop fan groups on Facebook, and there's o many people that think it's his greatest album, when it's definitely his 3rd or possibly even 4th best. Some people just have the worst takes.
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  11. True. Kinda wild he didn't get a mention.
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  12. I'm a white 37YO hip hop fan from Aotearoa New Zealand, and I've got a few things to say. Let's get this one out of the way straight away, not including the SSLP up there or better than the MMLP is a crime. The idea that the Eminem Show is his best album is far too prevalent so I love that you correctly identify it as being mid, but put some respect on the SSLP please. It has some good class social commentary on If I had and Rock Bottom. Plus just bars on some of those other tracks. Also, RATM should get more respect here with their class social commentary. I'm surprised, I mean, I get classing them as white, even though Zach is latino and Jewish, and Tom is black. Their music style does appeal a bit more to white audiences. The main thing I wanna talk about though is a white rapper, Tom Scott(Home Brew, @Peace, Average Rap Band, Avantdale Bowling Club) from here in Aotearoa that I think is respectful of hip hop culture and authentic to kiwi culture, a little bit more so with regards to the latter comparative to some other kiwi rappers that were around a bit before him during the same period. Some of which had a little bit too much American style in their vocal performances and their fashion choices. (That's not to say that Tom and his counterparts in any of his groups don't have American style influences, because I think we all do in the English speaking realm.) I wanna also speak to this through experience though, being a white dude and wanting to rap. I was quite interested in doing that throughout my later teens and early 20's. But I eventually decided I was probably getting too old and I wasn't getting anywhere trying to do it my way(which was admittedly very dumb and too shy). Then my younger brother introduced me to Home Brew around 2010, right before they dropped their self titled full length album, and a little after they'd just dropped about 3 different EP's from 2007-2009. And it was like some Lauryn Hill Killing Me Softly shit, because dude was rapping about all the things I would have wanted to rap about. Songs like Monday, Tuesday and Sunday from the Last Weak EP, Same Shit, Different Day from Taste Test, basically the whole of the Summer Ale EP, but particularly Good God, State Of Mind, Dark Intro, 55 Stories, Basketball Court, from the Home Brew album, and a song called Just Another. So needless to say I felt like there was no need to try to rap when dude was already making all the songs I wanted to make. He continues to too, with his latest release TREES from Avantdale Bowling Club almost literally telling the story of my life over the past 5 years. It's also very Jazz influenced. They're dope as. And the live performance of three of the songs from this album on YT sort of shows what I mean about being respectful of the culture, as they fly Tino Rangatiratanga flags above the bowling club they're playing at. The significance being they're the flag associated with Maoridom, and Maori sovereignty over Aotearoa, with some of the band members being Maori and polynesian, and Maori and polynesians being the pioneers of hip hop in Aotearoa, having an affinity with black people being minorities also. I personally think his music is better than Eminem's, and as far as lyricism and that he's not far behind or perhaps even on par too. The only thing I think might be an issue is some of the kiwi cultural elements, but we as non-Americans have the same thing with some American rappers and I think we fill in the spaces or Google the terms so it shouldn't be too much of a barrier. I think F.D. and others who may not have heard of him should check him out.
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  13. It was almost like a satirical skit like the Chappelle Show or some shit.
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  14. I like Mike, but I'm gonna say no on that one, dog. But I agree that he could have looked a bit outside the U.S. on this one. One rapper that I think does particularly well with regards to respecting the culture while being authentically himself and authentically kiwi is Tom Scott(Home Brew, @Peace, Average Rap Band, Avantdale Bowling Club). I legit think he's probably better than Eminem if you consider how listenable his music is, but then there's also the cultural barrier whereby I think many Americans might not quite "get" some of the cultural references. Although TBF, I think that was the case for the likes of my self as a kiwi listening to American rappers, some things are obvious or easily transferable or guessable, while some things can be a bit harder to know what it is. What are your thoughts on the likes of BVA and the Four Owls and that?
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  15. Nah, it's mid. The objectionable part is not including the SSLP in the same tier as MMLP.
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  16. I mean, he was wrong not to include the SSLP up there with the MMLP, but he's right that the rest of his music is very mid.
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  17.  @Kiki-xx3fj  Interesting what you find to be "quality".. It can't be because you think the production is too polished. I mean, it is on most of his later albums, but if you rate the Eminem Show but not Encore, it can't be that. And I agree Relapse and MMLP2 are his next two best albums after the first 4 but they're still pretty mid bro.
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  18.  @Kiki-xx3fj  LOL. nUmBeRs Just like all the idiotic Stan's in the hip hop Facebook groups.. That's a logical fallacy, bud. Popularity isn't a good argument. My statements are based on analysis of the musical quality and lyrical content. Like Music and English are subjects you can learn and understand.
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  19.  @Kiki-xx3fj  Sorry bro.. But to be clear, I'm also an Eminem fan, I just distance myself from some fans/Stans who clearly have rose tinted glasses. I clearly disagree with that other dude too, because I think the SSLP is good. But I agree with him that some of his stuff is overrated I guess.
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  20. The Eminem Show is mid. The actual crime is calling the SSLP mid.
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  21. It is. It's his 3rd or possible 4th best album. I don't know why F.D. doesn't know that SSLP is as good if not better than MMLP though. That's a melon scratcher.
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  22. Nah, you're right about the SSLP but the Eminem Show is quite mid.
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  23. Bad take. His top two are SSLP and MMLP, and you can debate if Eminem Show or Encore are third or fourth.
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  24. Cool.
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  25. Same. LOL
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