Comments by "TheVilla Aston" (@thevillaaston7811) on "Who was The Most Feared Tank Commanders Of WWII? | Greatest Tank Battles | War Stories" video.

  1. Rommel had more numbers at Alam el Halfa, but Montgomery won.
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  2.  @andrewhardy602  'Operation Market garden is all ya need to grade Monty' Your words. What?.. Rather than him fighting in two world wars, winning the DSO in the front line in the First World War, as a single division commander, closing the gap on allied right in France in 1940, in trying circumstances. Winning in North Africa, Siciliy, Normandy, the Northern half of the Bulge, and the Rhine?..
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  3. The Sherman was known to the Germans as the Tommy Cooker.
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  4.  @jimh6763  'No idea why we went ahead with that stupid market garden operation!' You were there?
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  5.  @amanacatandhisdog8836  'He wasn’t like Patton.' He [Mongomery] did not hit his own soldiers, and Italian peasants, and get himself passed over for senior command.
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  6.  @rsmithajd  If Germany was not fighting on the Eastern Front, there would have been no war. Germany only went into the war in order to attack Russia. If Caen and MARKET GARDEN were messses, what were Aachen (20,000 casualties), Metz (45,000 casualties) and the Hurtgen Forest (55,000 casualties)? The senior US commanders did not have a day of personal combat experience between them.
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  7.  @willymac5036  'And there were more than a few occasions when Monty had superior numbers of men and materials and still lost.' Your words. When were those occasions?..
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  8.  @markb8468  'lol. Agreed! The allies would still be marshaling forces and materials in 2022 if he was the commander.' Your words. Who is, or was 'he'? Montgomery? Montgomery chased Rommel 1.400 miles across North Africa, who finished Normandy by D+78 instead of the scheduled D+90. Or did you mean someone else.
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  9.  @Spacehog1981  The Germans had never heard of Patton until the end of the war.
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  10.  @markb8468  A preponderance of resources applied to every major US action in Europe. ...which one do you want?
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  11.  @smellygoatacres  ‘Montgomery didn't defeat Rommel. His loss to kill ratio was disastrous vs Rommel.’ Your words. Alamein (23 October – 11 November 1942): 195,000 allied troops, 4,810 Killed (2.5%). 116,000 Axis troops, 2,400 – 9,000 killed (2% -7.8%). Operation OVERLORD (06 June – 30 August 1944): 2,052,299 allied troops, 36,980 killed (1.8%). 640,000 Axis troops, 23,019 (3.6%). ‘You wouldn't follow that man into battle’ Your words From US General Walter Bedell Smith: ‘22 June 1944 Dear General [Montgomery], I have just received from a most reliable and intelligent source a report on attitude and state of mind of American troops in action. The writer is completely unbiased, and his report contains the following paragraph, which I hope will give you as much pleasure as it has given me: Confidence in the high command is absolutely without parallel. Literally dozens of embarking troops talked about General Montgomery with actual hero-worship in every inflection. And unanimously what appealed to them beyond his friendliness, and genuineness, and lack of pomp was the story (or, for all I know, the myth) that the General Visited every one of us outfits going over and told us he was more anxious than any of us to get this thing over and get home/ This left a warm and indelible impression. The above is an exact quotation. Having spent my life with American soldiers, and knowing only too well their innate distrust of everything foreign, I can appreciate far better than you can what a triumph of leadership you accomplished in inspiring such feeling and confidence. Faithfully Bedell’ From US General Omar Bradley: ‘Even Eisenhower with all his engaging ease could never stir American troops to the rapture with which Monty was welcomed by his’ THE MEMOIRS OF FIELD-MARSHAL EARL ALEXANDER OF TUNIS CASSELL, LONDON 1962 P16 ‘Montgomery is a first-class trainer and leader of troops on the battlefield, with a fine tactical sense. He knows how to win the loyalty of his men and has a great flair for raising morale.’ 'You wouldn't follow that man into battle knowing your odds of being killed were 10:1.' Your words. How would a person follow that man into battle know what their odds were of being killed?
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  12.  @rsmithajd  Germany slaughter the British?.. With what? And how were they going to get here? 'I think the British were the weakest link in the allies.....' You do not think, your comments make that clear. 'the Canadian and Australian forces fought good' Yep, alongside Britain, across SIX years of war 'but British sucked at every battle they were in' You mean apart from the Battle of Britain, the war at sea, East Africa, Crusader, Alam el Halfa, Alamein, Husky, Italy, Normany, the Scheldt, the Northern half of the Bulge, and the Bulge?..
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  13.  @dennisweidner288  'A fair assessment' British 2nd army at Caen tied down 6.5 of the 8 German armoured divisions in Normandy, leaving the US 2nd Army free to take the major port that the allies needed - Cherbourg, followed by a break to the south. Capturing Caen, or not capturing Caen made little difference to outcome of the campaign. Montgomery delivered victory in Normandy by D+78, 12 days ahead of schedule, and this with the delays to the allied build up caused by the great storm of 19th -20th June. CRUSADE IN EUROPE DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER WILLIAM HEINEMANN LIMITED 1948 P282 ‘Knowing that his old antagonist of the desert, Rommel, was to be in charge of the defending forces, Montgomery predicted that enemy action would be characterized by constant assaults carried out with any force immediately available from division down to a battalion or even company size. He discounted the possibility that the enemy under Rommel would ever select a naturally strong defensive line and calmly and patiently go about the business of building up the greatest possible amount of force in order to launch one full-out offensive into our beach position. Montgomery’s predictions were fulfilled to the letter.’ P288 ‘Montgomery’s tactical handling of the British and Canadians on the Eastward flank and his co-ordination of these operations with those of the Americans to the westward involved the kind of work in which he excelled.’ 'From Omar Bradley's book A Soldier's Story': ‘The British and Canadian armies were to decoy the enemy reserves and draw them to their front on the extreme eastern edge of the Allied beachhead. Thus, while Monty taunted the enemy at Caen, we were to make our break on the long roundabout road to Paris. When reckoned in terms of national pride this British decoy mission became a sacrificial one, for which while we trampled around the outside flank, the British were to sit in place and pin down the Germans. Yet strategically it fitted into a logical division of labors, for it was towards Caen that the enemy reserves would race once the alarm was sounded.’ Any questions?
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  14. 'Not sure what paper bag Montgomery fought his way out of for being included in this list' How about Alam el Halfa, Alamein, Mareth, Sicily, Normandy, The Scheldt, the Northern half of the Bulge, The Reichswald and the Rhine?
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  15.  @georgestone6807  'Monte loosing 100 tanks against a foe who had 1/3 numbers and even then failing ain’t smart' When did that happen?
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  16. Montgomery won Alam el Halfa, Alamein, Mareth, Sicily, Normandy, the Scheldt, the Northern half of the Bulge, the Reichswald and the Rhine. Eisenhower stoped the allies by his failure to concentrate resources in North Africa, Italy and at the Rhine.
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  17.  @rsmithajd  'is your name guy waters ??¿? Do you know what sucks more than tea and crumpets....... ENGLAND' Is that all that you have got left?
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  18.  @casperscott8684  'He was however snobbish aristocratic' On what evidence do you base that opnion?
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  19.  @georgestone6807  What has 'Monte' got to do with the Dieppe Raid?
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  20.  @nickdanger3802  Get real. There was no Japanese invasion fleet heading for Australia. 'USS Wasp was launching Spits to Malta' . Later, HMS Victorious was in the Pacific with the US Navy.
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  21. Really... What did Patton do?..
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  22. When did that happen?
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  23. Not sure what paper bag Patton fought his way out of for being included in this list, but the rest seem like good Commanders
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  24.  @rsmithajd  Its a definite no. When did he USA win a war on its own? Hold on a minute...I forgot Grenada, where the USA took on the armed might of that nation...all by itself. Do tell, when did the USA bail out Britain?..
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  25.  @rsmithajd  Its a definite no. Germany, Italy, and Japan declared war on the USA. That was the USA's war. Old liver spots? So Stalin ran rings around Roosevelt. Deal with it. What came out of Britain was the entire modern world.
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  26.  @casperscott8684  The air plan was down to the US General Lewis Brereton, as head of the FAAA.
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  27. It would have been wiser for Germany not to have started the war.
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  28. What quote would that be?
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  29. CRUSADE IN EUROPE DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER WILLIAM HEINEMANN LIMITED 1948 P333 ‘All along the front we pressed forward in hot pursuit of the fleeing enemy. In four days the British spearheads, paralleled by equally forceful American advances on their right, covered a distance of 195 miles, one of the many feats of marching by our formations in the great pursuit across France.’ What is stop start about that?
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  30.  @nickdanger3802  'Where do you think the RAAF's aircraft came from?' Perhaps some of them came from Britain: 'With British manufacturing targeted by the German Luftwaffe, in 1941 the Australian government created the Department of Aircraft Production (DAP; later known as the Government Aircraft Factories) to supply Commonwealth air forces,[24] and the RAAF was eventually provided with large numbers of locally built versions of British designs such as the DAP Beaufort torpedo bomber, Beaufighters and Mosquitos' This from Britain, Which had the enemy 20 miles away, and had to import 40% of its needs. A marvellous effort. The USA was 3,000 miles from its nearest enemy, had modest import needs, and therefore Americans have nothing to crow about.
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  31. 'a big ego jealousy was a big feature' How so?
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  32. When did Rommel ever beat Montgomery?
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  33. 'Montgomery was a strutting peacock more concerned with his own glory than for his men' And you state this because of what evidence? Or peerhaps you met him?
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  34. And US commanders fought against the odds on which occasions?
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  35. 'Montgomery waited until he had superior numbers of men and equipment, so Alamein was not mark of brilliance.' Montgomery with 4 divisions defeated Rommel' six divisions at Alam el Halfa. 'And then came Market Garden where Monty gambled to win fame' On what evidence to make this claim? Did Montgomery tell you this?
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  36. 'monty was a joke of a commander/leader' Why do you claim this?
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  37.  @LowEnd31st  Not really what?
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  38.  @florencemodina6293  Who can.
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  39.  @smellygoatacres  What means what in battle?
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  40.  @Petal4822  That applied to all allied commanders.
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  41. Who did Patton beat?
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  42.  @nemiw4429  What quote from Patton is at 38 mins, 20 seconds?
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  43.  @Chiller01  'I’d want it to be part of an American armoured division.' Why do you state that?
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  44. How so?
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  45.  @michaeltischuk7972  Not really...
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  46. No.
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  47. 'Patton absolutely deserves to be there' How so?
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  48. 'Didn't Monty know how the Fox operated?' Who can say?... CRUSADE IN EUROPE DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER WILLIAM HEINEMANN LIMITED 1948 P282 ‘Knowing that his old antagonist of the desert, Rommel, was to be in charge of the defending forces, Montgomery predicted that enemy action would be characterized by constant assaults carried out with any force immediately available from division down to a battalion or even company size. He discounted the possibility that the enemy under Rommel would ever select a naturally strong defensive line and calmly and patiently go about the business of building up the greatest possible amount of force in order to launch one full-out offensive into our beach position. Montgomery’s predictions were fulfilled to the letter.’ 'He would draw the tanks onto his gun line every time! Either he flanked the Brits or drew them onto his 88's. It's not a sophisticated plan.' What should he have done instead? 'Why didn't Monty use his airpower better? Montgomery did not command any 'airpower' 'Don't send brave men into mine fields to be hammered by 88's! Poor General ship.' So, you send cowards there instead? 'Rommel was a great soldier. Brave and would take chances! Monty was slow and cautious. Relied on overwhelming kit.' Rommel got himself stuck at the end of an extended supply line. A mistake that Montgomerey did not make. 'Even with Bletchley Monty was slow.' what has Bletchley got to do with it? 'Patton had balls!!' No doubt, most males have them. Got any more gems for us?..
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  49.  @dennisweidner288  Absolute rubbish, from the first word to the last.
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  50. 'Montgomery murdered his and allied troops' When did that happen?
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  51. 'An interesting discussion was had between FM Montgomery & Russian FM Zhukov at one of the three party conferences.' Which 'three party conference' was that?
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  52.  @Petal4822  That information was available to all senior allied commanders.
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  53. Nope. The Germans did not call them Ronsons. They did not know the name. They called them Tommy Kookers.
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  54.  @marysullivan3326  Yea, while in Britain, everyone just sat on their hands.
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  55.  @marysullivan3326  'i certainly have no idea where thats coming from.' It just pours out of the USA on a conveyor belt...Films, TV programmes, books, lectures, YouTube comments...All full of America this, America that. Let us be absolutely clear, Britain was the only major power to fight from the first day, to the last day of the war. Britain fought in every major theatre of war, it was only country to fight Germany on its own. Britain was the only major power to go to war on behalf of another country (Poland) - all the others either attacked other countries, or were attacked by other countries. Britain out-mobilized every other country (even Russia). Relative to its circumstances, Britain out-produced every other country. On its own, Britain out-produced Germany. All this from a country that was uder air assault, a sea blockade, and for four years had the enemy 21 miles away. As far as who did what in the Second World War is concerned is concerned, we rule. 'Britain asked the US of A to join in the fight.' When did that happen?
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  56.  @marysullivan3326  Again: 'Britain asked the US of A to join in the fight.' When did that happen?
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  57.  @samsungtap4183  I think you will find that this was the actual wording: "small, very alert, wonderfully conceited, and the best soldier--or so it seems--I have met in this war."
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  58.  @samsungtap4183  Fair enough.
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  59.  @altair458  What is humor? If you actually mean humour, then where is the joke?. The Americans on here have had their arses handed to them on a plate.
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  60.  @rsmithajd  Its a definite no. Britain did not start the First World War. British, French, and Russian blood, along with the British blockade of Germany won the war. The USA turned up when it was time for tea and medal, and a share out of the loot. Britain did not start the Second World War. Britain in 1940 and Russia in 1941 won the war. The USA turned up when it was time for tea and medal, and a share out of the loot. In both wars, the US nancy boys were 3,000 from the nearest enemy. Fancy some more?
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  61.  @westpointsnell4167  Ah... Its the Betchworth Boy
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  62. 'everyone from Churchill to the Imperial General Staff wanted to sack him in Normandy.' Where is thwere evidence of this?
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  63.  @richardbono5540  Really... All I can find is a diary entry from Eisenhower's naval aide Butcher. Tedder was supposedly the ring leader of a plot to get rid of Montgomery. Something he later denied: WITH PREJUDICE The War Memoirs of Marshall of the Royal Air Force Lord Tedder G.C.B. CASSELL & COMPANY 1966 P 563 According to the diary of Eisenhower’s aide, Captain Butcher, I told the Supreme Commander on the evening of 19 July that Montgomery had in effect, stopped his armour from going farther. Later, I am reported as saying that he British Chiefs of Staff would ‘support any recommendation that Ike might care to make with respect to Monty for not succeeding in going places with his big three-armoured division push’ I am sure that this record is misleading for although I strongly disapproved of Montgomery’s action, it was quite beyond my powers to speak in the name of the British Chief’s of Staff.’ This from the diary of Alanbrooke, CIGS: July 27th. ‘Then Dinner with the P.M., Ike and Bedell Smith’ ‘ "The Strategy of the Normandy landing is quite straight forward. But now comes the trouble; the press chip in and we heard that the British are doing nothing and suffering no casualties whilst the Americans are bearing all the brunt of the war" “There is no doubt that Ike is all out to do all he can to maintain the best relations between British and Americans. But it is equally clear that Ike knows nothing about strategy. Bedell Smith, on the other hand, has brains but no military education in its true sense. He is certainly one of the best American officers but still falls far short when it comes to strategic outlook. With that Supreme Command set-up it is no wonder that Monty’s real high ability is not always realised. Especially so when ‘national’ spectacles pervert the perspective of the strategic landscape.” ’ Hardly the words of a Chief of Imperial General Staff that wanted to sack Montgomery... As for Churchill, I am very familiar with his six volume history of the Second World War. There is no mention of a desire, or plan to sack Montgomery in that work. Atkinson and Beevor were not even born when the war ended, and therefore could not have been there, unlike the people I have quoted. So what do Atkinson and Beevor offer in regard to 'everyone from Churchill to the Imperial General Staff wanted to sack him in Normandy'?
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  64. No.
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  65. What for?..
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  66. 'Montgomery had an unlimited supply of men and machines.' When did that happen?
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  67. What 'colossal military debacles'?
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  68.  @rsmithajd  Capitalism, Parliamentary democracy, the English language, trial by Jury, and so on, and so on.
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  69.  @mohammedisaa9952  So why would that have been?
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  70.  @STOPDELETINGMYCOMMENTSFASCISTS  Mcarthur and Patton would like a word about what?
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  71.  @STOPDELETINGMYCOMMENTSFASCISTS  The senior commanders in the allied high command in North West Europe were Bradley, Devers, Eisenhower, and Montgomery. Patton was one of a number of single army commanders that were subordinate to the above persons. MacArthur not involved in the war in North West Europe.
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