Comments by "" (@Kult365) on "1News" channel.

  1. Simple Seymour has pharmaceutical shareholders.
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  2. Something sounding veeeery similar in the strategy being used here in NZ...
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  3.  @schlookie  the Treaty is your constitutional right to be in Aotearoa, tug on the threads at your own risk 😂
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  4.  @explorerjlc1743  sorry but you can't just willy nilly go round changing a countries constitution... the insinuation alone is divisive.
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  5. "he's like a little prick" 😂 well said that man
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  6. The general public does not get to re-write the Treaty. The agreement is between Maaori and Crown, not 3rd party interlopers. Curiously, ACT claims it wants a conversation and were invited to have it at Tuurangawaewae yet... they tucked tail and ran.😂
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  7. 100% going to be misused 😢
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  8. Nicola putting the onus back on the Ministries? Resign now.
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  9. Winfield Peters wants cheaper smokes! 😂
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  10. You've done more research into the land you occupy in 10 months than most NZers have done in 100 years.
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  11. Seymour what a coward 😂
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  12.  @hughheeney3554  Same rights and privileges as the Queen's Citizens, as well as maintaining articles 1, 2, and 3. Very important not to leave those parts out. Very important. Crucial even.
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  13. "We need more money to pay for cancer" says the guy who just bought back cigarettes 😂
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  14. Public service cuts = Public suffering
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  15. Don't come here and lecture Maaori, if you don't like it you're welcome to return to your homeland.
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  16. Left or Right are colonial constructs. Maaori are not either of those. The Treaty is not Right or Left, it's Maaori and Crown.
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  17. What a JOKE of a Coalition! These boomers are acting like 15 yo's 😂
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  18. They keep blaming Labour, thier victimhood and many deferences shows they are confused. Mark said the truth imo, and this guy is spinning it.
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  19. ​ @Battleneter imagine Maaori people going to Tonga and creating a Maaori authority. Ridiculous, would never happen as that is Tongan land. The same idea applies here.
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  20. This is the most underrated comment I have seen about this topic. I'm copying it and will attribute when I quote it , thank you
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  21. Because armchair experts and keyboard warriors know better than all of the academic scholars. Ignorance is a way to say something never happened, mix that with huge racial bias and you have the coalition voters like right here in these comment sections .
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  22. You're comparing Maaori and Treaty to tin foil hat wearing rabbit holers?? 😂
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  23. I cannot belive the racist vitriol against Maaori here. If you don't value and respect Maaori, you do not belong here. The extension of kindness in the Treaty to allow Tauiwi to stay here should be revoked for all the Maaori bashers.
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  24.  @grrman  not at all. Maaori aren't saying "we don't like the Treaty" Maaori are saying " you have no right to change the Treaty".
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  25. ​ @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj we're revoking your citizenship
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  26. Mince Mice pie anyone?
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  27. Meanwhile, the coalition Clowncar are getting rid of KidsCan
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  28. Ka aroha cuz, go to your marae
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  29. Every new govt. walks into the last one's balance. This screams of incompetence and confusion, this lot do not know what they are doing. And now look, not even touching crime 😂
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  30.  @TJH-111  Jacinda would never try to re-write history so, false dichotomy sorry.
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  31.  @ZaneLike  not in NZ 😂 the Treaty exists because your "winners" couldn't defeat Maaori in battle. Same would go for today. Walk down the road and wear a T-Shirt with your remark, see how you go.
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  32. 92% of NZ do not want the Treaty messed with.
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  33. Back in the day it was forcibly banned 🚫 what are you even talking about 😂
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  34.  @danielle5980  you're talking as though English wasn't forced on 70% of the world and isn't used as a political tool😂 jokers🤣
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  35.  @wood_rat  that pretty much says it all. No respect for the country he's trying to destroy, preferring to court the Indian vote.
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  36. And National are increasing speed limits. Those poor kids😢 e tangi ana te ngaakau
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  37. ​ @logicalanswer3529 except for those raping bits eh. Personally, I love our true Paakehaa allies. Our true Treaty partners. They are good people.
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  38. The only thing the coalition clown car have in common is attacking Maaori. Plain and simple truth.
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  39.  @Battleneter  40 signed Paakehaa version, 550 signed Maaori version. Democracy you say? Also you have not yet admitted your incorrect MHA assumption, or is that the cognitive dissonance coming through? The Maaori version says the queen looks after hers, Maaori get the same rights. It does not say Paakehaa get to govern Maaori so, ya know, let's keep it real.
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  40.  @Battleneter  educate yourself on the NZ wars, 1864. Find out how British might could not defeat the primitive bush dwellers. Beaten at every turn. Ruapekapeka, Gate Paa, if you call yourself a NZer, know where it is that you live. You've skipped the timeline and I'd wager it's due to not knowing. Prior to me claiming your ignorance however, I'd ask that you find out what really happened here.
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  41. The general layperson has no business having a say on Maaori rights or Treaty rights. The Treaty is not up for revision by you. The Crown and Maaori are contracted here, not 3rd party interlopers.
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  42. It's our founding document so yes, that's a constitution. Read the preamble and try again ☺️
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  43. He dodged Treaty questions with "I've been talking to iwi" 5 times! What. A. Coward.
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  44. Count those on the app and live stream too plz.
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  45. You don't come into govt. to find out how it works on the job.
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  46.  @marsspacex6065  fortunately for the world, you are incorrect due to international law around this topic. Also, even if govt. attempts to change it, the general lay NZer (you) will have no say whatsoever in it 😂
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  47. He represents the people, that's why.
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  48. Jesus died though, Maaori are still alive.
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  49.  @Battleneter  I may have misunderstood you, I'm uncertain what you meant by the looks of things... you are aware though, that the MHA was not explicitly reserved only for Maaori though right? The name might have you thinking so, but anyone could go there... you knew that right?
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  50.  @Battleneter  incorrect. No cessation of sovereignty occurred. That's a little white lie. Think about it, 200k Maaori gave 2000 settlers the right to govern Maaori 😂 ridiculous ad-infinitum.
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  51. ​ @jame2433 those 2 are simple trolls. They do this on every video where the Clown-Car Coalition is being called out.
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  52. Ad-Nauseam. You're welcome 😂 Also, you obviously do not speak for "everyone".
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  53. ​ @stevehughes1510  ...if you're racist and you know it clap your hands 👏🏽 steve hughes 👏🏽
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  54. Seymour: i want a debate Seymour: I'm not having the debate Seymour: I'm not attending Raatana, it's a religious event Seymour: I'm going to a Hindu religious event 😂
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  55.  @N.kelvyn-m7r  yet leaders from north, south, east and west attended. He's real enough that when he calls for action, Tangata Whenua and many, many Tangata Tiriti rise.
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  56. Smoking is the antithesis of health, this is mind numbingly painful to watch, insidious.
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  57.  @yingle6027  wait, I thought it was "never ending war"?
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  58. Corporations but yes, not good
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  59. Ngaati Kahu, kia kaha koutou✊🏽
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  60. Immigrants come to NZ under mandate of the govt, the govt answers to the Crown. The Treaty is between Crown and Maaori. Not Maaori and lay NZers who do not understand the Treaty.
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  61. Wee Simian has his work cut out for him 😂 We all need to smoke more to get this off the ground!
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  62.  @Battleneter  South Africa? Who racialised SA?? That's right, colonials.
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  63.  @mylesgreen9900  is that what your mum says on your birthdays 😂
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  64.  @Battleneter  🤔 so again, why would 200k Maaori give rulership to 2000 settlers? Could you imagine that ever happening? Also, any MHA concessions from you based on facts, or do you prefer to skip that inconvenience?
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  65. You must like waiting for things
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  66. Agreed, Paakehaa who are not on board with Maaori need to get off the gravy train they've been riding for generations on the back of stolen land and murderous invasions.
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  67. She's educated so, much smarter than you anyway
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  68. Pay Police More! Subsidise stuff for them or something for goodness sake. Cutting "backroom" jobs is going to be a fatal mistake here, the support crew is vital to perform properly.
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  69.  @dwee3005  to further illustrate the absence of any plan, she just said that the Ministries themselves will oversee the cuts... Too cowardly to openly do it themselves.
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  70.  @grrman  I appreciate you have used manners to ask and respectfully, please know I'm not here to do your research for you. If you're really interested and genuinely want to know, go and use a search engine. It's all online 👍🏽
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  71. If the inference is that he's a liar 🤷‍♂️😂😂Go Chloe
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  72. Read our NZ constitution, ie: Te Tiriti oo Waitangi. It is the document that gives you the right to be in this country 😂
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  73.  @FinnDelMundoTravel  the Treaty is the only reason your forebearers were allowed to settle here. Get rid of the Treaty means get rid of the settlers. Do you see that when you say "all of us" you are excluding Maaori? You are being separatist? You are disrespecting Tangata Whenua? Because not a single actual Maaori wants these attacks.
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  74.  @dash-kt7uf  Te Ika aa Maaui, Te Waka aa Maaui, Te Waipounamu.. Aotearoa, Niu Tiireni, take your pick. It doesn't change the racist tropes emerging courageously from the soft white underbelly that you would never, ever walk down the road saying. It doesn't change that the single reason you are in this country is due to Maaori allowing you to be, as a Treaty partner. You're welcome to leave btw.
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  75.  @jimpaterson1253  crossed the centre line due to....? I mean, is it reasonable to say that going slower helps?
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  76. And falls over in 2 weeks😂
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  77.  @Battleneter  There was no cessation of sovereignty whatsoever, all experts in Treaty know and have said so even recently. You're basing your opinion in a lie. You seem reasonably intelligent and I wonder if you might have clarity if you studied from a non-bias point
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  78. Seymour saw a real taniwha today 😂😂
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  79. Depends how much trouble it will be for Nat's. Right now it's trouble.
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  80.  @kitty2527  an example: I have a contract with my insurance company for my house. You live next door to me. You don't like my rennovations. You cannot then call my insurance company and renegotiate my contract. Sound simple? It is.
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  81. Correction, a majority of Act Shareholders have requested this. The money people. Not the public.
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  82.  @Gumpmachine1  the general lay NZer does not get a say in the agreement as it's between the Crown and Maaori, not "all" NZers
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  83. Before who's law though? Maaori never ceded sovereignty so your argument is foreign in almost every sense of the word.
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  84. Stay in Melbourne dude 🫶🏽
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  85. Correct, handouts for settlers are over.
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  86.  @waynekilgour393  sorry, who built the harbour bridge ?
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  87. Your comments are deleted because you are not observing community guidelines. Possibly hate speech or misinformation, likely hate speech by the look.
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  88.  @logicalanswer3529  and English is a watered down version of German, Dutch, French, and Norwegian 😂😂 Sort of a mongrel language really. Don't get me wrong, I quite like using English👍🏼
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  89.  @JH-kd6hs  hey you could be right, but Chloe is smart, and Chris can't count to 36 as demonstrated in his smoking rollback😂
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  90. Ngaaw, are you hungry? Come see the Nations hosts, the Maaori will feed you 👍🏽
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  91. Says the guy who's moaning and blaming 😂😂 I bet you yell at birds😂
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  92. Actually no, it's a cobbled together patchwork of clownish ideas where the only common ground is Maaori bashing.
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  93. ​ @throughput6674 ad-hominem is the lowest response, which seems to be your default
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  94. How much money is it costing to erase the names?
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  95.  @Chris-d6m6o  aren't you concerned that the eradication money could be spent on potholes?
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  96. Supermarket duopoly comments are over there 👉🏽
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  97. ​ @killab4870 the general layperson NZer has no place deciding the fate of a first nation people. It's taken decades for dozens of highly experienced and well informed academics to extrapolate the context and meaning of Te Tiriti. Look at this chat and tell me that anyone here is educated enough to be responsible for such a change. The blatant racism, outright Maaori-phobic race baiting, and extremities of ignorance are on display for all to see. You're wanting to trust these people with the fate of NZs founding document?
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  98. ​ @jameskjx well said, that man 👍🏽
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  99.  @ZaneLike  your Google search doesn't save you this time. The explanation you have given is a colonial narrative, you do not get to redefine the constitution of NZ without agreement from both parties. You don't get to change a contract because of your personal circumstances, ask Baycorp 😂
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  100. Tautoko e mara
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  101. You see what you want to see. Hear what you want to hear. Truth and justice are not visible to you.
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  102. An amazing leader, educated, compassionate, and forward thinking.
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  103. Chloe rules!
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  104. ​​ @bentrally looks like someone really needs that full hour of literacy every day 😂
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  105.  @rogermartin8435  in terms of the recent hui, I'd like to point out that there were official ground rules put in place by Kiingi Tuuheitia that: "Te Kiingitanga expects manuhiri to adhere to the following five tikanga: Tumatawhaanui/inclusivity Taiaroha/positivity Whakataikaha/strengths-based  Rangimaarie/peace He ahu whakamua/future-focused". From all the footage I saw (I attended online) I didn't notice any aggression, and there were no reports of violence or violent rhetoric. The suggestion that the hui was aggressive is not shown as far as I can see.
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  106. ​ @john0032 yeah because their land was stolen, duh
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  107.  @jamesfraser2639  absolute rubbish, there is no such 300$ payment for pregnant Maaori 😂 How long ago did you start using the internet?
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  108.  @grrman  did you not see the leaked doc?
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  109.  @Jakey4000  agreed, and way waaaay above the lay NZer's comprehension to then have a go at re-writing the Treaty. These comment sections are testimony to this inadequacy with low brow, school yard, uneducated and racist remarks exploding on every post.
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  110. The man spoke the reality and was very quickly hushed. The coalition overshot and are doomed to fail.
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  111.  @gordonpotts9642  actually, a quick Google search will show you the information I gave is correct. English is based in old German etc 🤷🏽‍♂️ Although I agree there is no "pure" language. Communication evolves.
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  112.  @logicalanswer3529  sorry, no. Because nearly 60% of the vocabulary comes from Latin, English is sometimes called the Germanic language that is the most Latin. So, it's a reasonable conclusion that English is pretty much a cobbled together mish mash appropriated from other cultures 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  113. Ka whawhai tonu maatou✊🏽
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  114. He's very scared. Jones walked out of Ratana into cameras and looked very subdued. Like his aunty has just smacked his bum or something 😂
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  115. Hahah, it's the crybaby council - dash and Shirley Inc 😂
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  116. Being a secured party creditor (sounds like that's what you mean) you should understand the danger Maaori are in from these clowns.
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  117.  @Battleneter  oh we're doing facts...what happened in the Land Wars of 1864 then? 😂 The finest Redcoats and Mercenaries from the colonies could not break the spine of the Kiingitanga as they hoped. Today's hui is testament to that. So before embarrassing yourself further go and study, then come back to me. Like I said, I do sense at least some intelligence from you, albeit misinformed.
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  118.  @tedgoldfinchgoldfinch1968  how can you with conscience hold so tightly to your right wing beliefs that you will willfully ignore such an obvious attack on NZs health?
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  119.  @Hog-iv7tj  You're in Hamilton, go and say that near Glenview shops keyboard coward 😂
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  120. ​ @stephenking4170 it's because this Paati Maaori has a raho😂 Not putting up with nonsense that they used to let slide. Enjoy the ride 🫶
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  121. Yes. This is a tragedy. Also it destroys delicate ecosystems.
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  122. And blessings to you too 👍🏼
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  123. They have enriched themselves and their shareholders, and the rich
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  124. Well said Hipkins! Seymour was a Seeya 😂 Our good name is being tarnished internationally, thanks to the coalition of chaos.
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  125. Complete the sentence "we want everyone to be equally white".
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  126.  @dave24-73  Yes, the Treaty of Waitangi is considered a legal document in New Zealand. It is a foundational agreement signed in 1840 between the British Crown and various Māori chiefs, outlining the principles of partnership, protection, and participation. The treaty is recognized in New Zealand law and has significance in addressing issues related to Māori land rights and cultural matters.
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  127. Harder to count when you're from Inglewood 😂
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  128.  @ZoroasterIII  which Maaori companies pay less tax? Or is this fantasy?
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  129.  @toast47624  why are you so fearful of the Reo? Do you not want your kids to know what it means to be a true NZer?
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  130.  @toast47624  why do you keep reporting my responses 🤣🤣
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  131. ​ @dobbynp she means you 😂 the victim of poor education
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  132.  @moronicdooshbaggery756  I'm Paakehaa and I disagree with what the govt is doing to the Tiriti. It's racism
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  133. The prosecution calls Simple Seymour to the stand to be punished according to lore😂
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  134.  @rogermartin8435  what happened to "equality for all"?
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  135.  @rogermartin8435  whilst I don't share your optimism that most NZers want what's best for all, I appreciate your conversarion. In the last month, anti-Maaori rhetoric has become the norm in social media. For example, I have had death threats made against myself and my family, been called all kinds of racial slurs and been told to stay in my place. Another point of difference is the assertion that TPM are aggressive, I would say pissed off maybe, but they are speaking truth to power. From the perspective of their constituents they are defending the right to be Maaori, and I agree.
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  136. Looks like they are revoking the use of that area for now. Paakehaa landowners do that everyday, what's the difference? 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  137.  @snigie1  Ka whawhai tonu maatou 👋🏽
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  138. Labour enacted Kids can thank you very much.
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  139.  @philipwilliams6307  deflection, redirection, avoiding the issue with whataboutism
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  140.  @rogermartin8435  your comment sounds as though it's coming from a place of victimhood unfortunately. I was simply quoting the contributor so, don't shoot the messenger? 😂
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  141.  @rogermartin8435  is this the "let's blame the last guys" tactic? It's quite popular now isn't it, it's all the rage 😂
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  142. ​ @ArccSwift I disagree, everyone should have higher education imo
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  143.  @dwee3005  exactly. How hard is it to get a 7 min tutorial on cooking meth? Ofc this is going to spell jail for lots of people. Simple Seymour should resign
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  144. He is asked to repeat to find the truth. Do you not see him dodging around questions? He should be held to account as the "leader" 🫶🏽
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  145. My tin foil hat just melted 😂
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  146. Brown is a funny wee man, but at least he knows a lemon when he sees one
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  147.  @logicalanswer3529  okay well, I showed you the evidence and you are choosing to ignore it 🤷🏽‍♂️ Didn't expect much from a racist though TBF.
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  148.  @JG-us9lu  I should compliment you on being amazing in that you were able to type back, seeing as reading comprehension seems to be a bit of a challenge 😂
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  149. The Earth is round.
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  150.  @davidc2509  looking like you're a real language expert with that sentence 😂
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  151. ​@LawrenceTurnbullan obvious immigrant, here under the auspices of the generosity of the Maaori who, in 1840, allowed your forebears the right to be here.
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  152. ​ @susanbarlow1585 yes. The fact that 1000 years ago NZ was settled by Maaori, that sets what is called "precedent".
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  153. Beautiful to see our Tangata Tiriti! Aroha nui taatou! 🫶🏽
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  154. ​ @Battleneter  says the expert of Minecraft 😂
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  155.  @dash-kt7uf  quiet in the cheap seats please, adults are talking.
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  156.  @dash-kt7uf  You claim violence prior to action, you presume that I might do what you would do in this situation. The reality is that I actually want you to be a true NZer. I believe in you, respectfully.
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  157. Good luck in the far north bud 😂 You might find out why Tauiwi turned tail and fled that fighting stage.
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  158.  @nukerzerothefirst3417  inform yourself about Ruapekapeka. Hongi Hika, Hone Heke, Te Kaawiti. Remember there were 2000 settlers and 200,000 Maaori at the time of signing the Treaty and your forefathers were allowed to live here because of it.
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  159.  @wyliegarcia5965  so, smoking reduces suicide.... 😂😂😂 👏🏽You👏🏽need👏🏽education
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  160. The Coalition Clowncar will be there tomorrow, do they have weekday jobs 😂😂
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  161.  @alanlee8645  " I know it’s triggering for some apostles of ‘One Treaty, One Nation’, but colonisation is the reason, demographically, that an entire race of people - Aotearoa’s first people - are over-represented below the poverty line, in material hardship, low-income households, unemployment, in state care, in prisons, on the housing register, in the lack of access to health, housing, education" - David Unwin
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  162. Go TPM ✊🏼
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  163. ​ @kiwi792 the plan has been laid out in front of us, you say nothing has happened yet but already the language is being eradicated through legislation.
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  164.  @RoniCarbine  thank you for stating the point about speed. I don't agree that because people break those limits there should then be no attempt to have speed regulations. Otherwise how will offenders be stopped if there is no limit? We can't just throw our hands in the air when dealing with humans disregarding speed limits.
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  165. Cigmore: I want a discussion Cigmore: I'm not talking to them Cigmore: I don't want to go to religious events Cigmore: I am going to a religious event
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  166.  @TarkovTrev  I didn't say discuss in open dialogue, Cigimore did, yet he's the one who's cowering behind a Saree?
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  167.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  although last time his racist policy wasn't unveiled. He's dodging taking responsibility for his actions which is unbecoming of a statesman. It literally makes him unfit when he imposes policy on people that he refuses to engage with. It's basically authoritarianism.
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  168.  @yingle6027  please stop thinking for and prescribing for Maaori. Your advice is not based on anything Maaori.
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  169.  @222-i6o  No. Your comment shows your ignorance.
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  170. ​ @Hog-iv7tj all channels belong to us dumbdumb 😂
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  171. Cigmore campaigned against hate speech laws, this is his vision for NZ.
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  172.  @robertjamesking5314  well then, Jah bless you and yours 👍🏽 Me, I will stand and be counted for both of our children's sake.
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  173.  @robertjamesking5314  sorry, I replied but I think it got cut. I said I didn't know why you're blocked and to ask BHN in the live chats every weekday at 9pm.
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  174.  @Colin_Izer1111  just focus on getting a job first
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  175.  @HelenManning-bt5vv  nobody said white supremacists can't be Maaori, take Winfield and Cigmore for example. Those sorts are called Kuupapa, colloquially.
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  176.  @chrisnipper9163  with respect, Maaori have seen these tricks before, again and again. An inch becomes a mile then turns into hundreds of millions of hectares, stolen.
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  177.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  have a quick look through this entire comment section and tell yourself no-ones attacking Maaori.
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  178.  @HelenManning-bt5vv  Politicians point fingers wherever they like, what makes a woman doing it any different?
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  179.  @Kenny-er5um  I apologise for my assumption and you are correct, whakapapa cannot be denied. Also, he aha koe e kore ai e tuupono mo te hunga peehi ki raro? Ka whakaae koe ki te whakakorengia te Tiriti?
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  180. You spelt colonesian wrong😂
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  181.  @Matika_awatea  tautoko
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  182.  @ZaneLike  admit you were wrong about the MHA and I will explain the t-shirt remark
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  183. @LWJCarrol don't listen to them. Paakehaa or Tangata Tiriti are Maaori Allies and we support you
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  184.  @kitty2527  the point being, 3rd party interlopers cannot change a lawful contract between two parties.
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  185.  @Gumpmachine1  actually no. The govt. is not the Crown, you'll understand this by reading the Treaty where it says "Crown" and "Iwi Maaori" and does not say "the govt". You're twisting words into something they are not
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  186.  @crazykiwican  what utter nonsense, what bills? What 88% ? Everyone including Maaori pay tax, what world do you live in?
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  187. Thank you brothers and sisters 👍🏽
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  188. Get rid of the language, repeal smoking legislation. Both of these significantly affect Maaori. Playing to thier base and getting away with it
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  189. And flagellation
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  190. ​ @ZoroasterIII any reference for your claim that Maaori business owners pay less tax?
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  191. ​ @hellowill te Tiriti s a bi-ciltural agreement. Think of a bicycle having two wheels, the bi means 2. Not 200.
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  192.  @karenrhodes9973  Entitled being the keyword Karen.
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  193. Agreed. Hugely disrespectful to the Maaori people 👍🏽
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  194. ​ @Pukes4Nukes nevermind whataboutism, deal with now
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  195.  @toast47624  his speech was 90% English though 🤔
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  196.  @toast47624  I'm getting a whiff of hostility from you 🤔 or is it a mix of ignorance and anti-Maaori bias 🤣 Anyway, let's just agree that you saying you don't understand Maaori and therefore Luxons speech that you didn't even listen to that was mostly in English is a very lazy un-investigative, stupid claim to make.
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  197.  @AngieSainty  but these guys claim they want a "rational debate" on the issue smh
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  198.  @toast47624  you are not qualified to be making a decision about crossing a road, let alone a opening your mouth on a referendum. Maaori and sign are the two official languages in this country, and your ignorance will disadvantage your next generations. Mono-linguists lol 😂
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  199. Your inventing words. It doesn't say responsibilities anywhere, that's just the latest buzz word from ACT 😂
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  200. Te Tiriti is between Maaori and Crown. Not between Maaori and the 20% of illiterate racist overstayers. Meaning no, you do not get to renegotiate anything with Maaori. Maaori are the hosts, you come here as a guest so, show some respect.
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  201.  @user-mrwikohika  tautoko, but yes let's see what Harihari has to say 👍🏼
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  202. Calling all teachers 😂
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  203.  @barbsmart7373  we love you and our allied Paakehaa, Tangata Tiriti and beautiful humans. You are what the Treaty intended, co-opting for a better country based in compassion and forging a true partnership. Stay strong sister (or brother) We will prevail ✊🏽
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  204.  @ChrisBrown-or8ky  I hear the same dismissive tropes from that guy Punket.
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  205. ​ @whaqd76 😂😂😂
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  206. Yeah because National would never lie 🤥
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  207.  @JamesMullarneyIsAFraud  I see. Well good on you for looking after your own, although an empathetic appreciation of helping others is also a good thing.
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  208.  @rogermartin8435  you make a fair point. Staying on topic, I feel this will fuel the Greens by opening a power vacuum bringing in a more vocal, vivacious, and virile rhetoric alongside allies, TPM.
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  209.  @MadCatLady28  😂 it's very effective
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  210. Kingdom of Tonga supports the Maaori cause.
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  211. ​ @lawildman1 Rambuka time for you then 😂
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  212. ​ @naisyjohns those are lies. Simple Seymour intends to write Maaori out of history, a traitor to his own.
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  213. ​ @Colin_Izer1111 are you celebrating his anniversary tomorrow?
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  214. Non stop
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  215. ​ @BULLRUSH_NZ you're not even a billionaire in GTA 😂
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  216.  @fishernz  exactly.
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  217. What colour is your nose though? 😂
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  218.  @ronnynolegs  😂😂😂 brown you reckon? 😆 this stuff writes itself, thanks for the chuckles 👍🏼
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  219. Most underrated comment in the thread.
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  220. Are you walking like Jesus walked young man? Are you observing kindness? Hmmmm🤔
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  221.  @peasant5612  maybe if they typed more slowly? 😂
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  222.  @AnthonyFlack  his literacy in schools effort is looking more like childhood resentment 😆
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  223.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
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  224.  @JohanThiart  read the Treaty.
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  225.  @andrewrushton1272  become informed about the content of the Treaty prior to forming an opinion
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  226.  @JohanThiart  okay thanks for your position, do you agree with the findings of the Waitangi Tribunal (last week) confirming what iwi have maintained from the start that sovereignty was not ceded in the Treaty?
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  227.  @JohanThiart  have you compared or contrasted senior tangata whenua legal experts considered opinions on the matter, or do you regard western academia as the standard?
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  228.  @JohanThiart  sorry but this sounds a lot like revisionist history. The Treaty is the founding document of unified NZ as much as any constitution. Also you're losing me when you claim convenience using English over NZs official language and I'm starting to sense you're good with language banning as well.
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  229.  @allgood6760  Correct, 2 tribes actually, Ngaati Tama and Ngaati Mutunga. I guess I was showing that it wasn't all tribes that went to Reikohu (I prefer using the Tchakat 'Henu word for their island)
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  230. Until it's you arguing about the circumstances of being tased, I doubt your opinion will change
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  231.  @Chas-te7uz  bro do you watch BHN? NZ news
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  232.  @davethewave7248  Why would 100k Maaori bend over for 2k settlers? You're in a fantasy world of settler tropes and myths.
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  233.  @stephenc8956  says the NZ Paakehaa to the Maaori 😆
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  234.  @waynewright5571  racist rhetoric is not helping
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  235. Waitangi Tribunal have found they are sovereign and did not cede sovereignty.
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  236. 😂😂
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  237.  @Colin_Izer1111  I prefer muskets thanks 👍🏽
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  238. @fatubreenimarota your analogy is 100% correct. Thank you for giving your support cousin.
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  239.  @peterthepakeha2799  as he looks into the mirror, he slowly realises what the problem might be...
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  240. He's on the wrong side of history
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  241.  RAURU-oc8pt  teenaa koe Kii Tahi
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  242. Scared of some "hard koorero"? I thought Cigmore wanted a discussion but... where is he? Bok bok 😂
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  243. ​ @tekivakatini26 you can't even spell Moorioori 😂 you're why literacy in schools needs work
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  244. Well put ✊🏽 Long live Kiingi Tuuheitia!
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  245. ​ @Gumpmachine1 you like maths, count the incendiary anti-Maaori posts and compare with anti-Paakehaa posts. If you truly are non-bias and respect information, your discovery will be enlightening.
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  246.  @nukerzerothefirst3417  that doesn't include most south island or far north Maaori population, a low estimate is 200k. Good on you for looking up the info, hopefully that gives you context to the ridiculous notion that Maaori handed power over to Crown, let alone settlers.
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  247.  @peaceandlovelikeringo  are you a fortune teller or is it your racist bias that "delay/infighting" will occur?
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  248.  @barbsmart7373  I notice Seymour attended an Indian religious event while Raatana was on too, all the while claiming he didn't attend religious ceremonies 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  249. Democracy is a Paakehaa concept and isn't once mentioned in Te Tiriti. Maaori will fight for their rights as they always have❤
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  250.  @wolfgangweidinger4637  while we're here, God (in the oh my god) is also a Paakehaa idea. Have you considered that perhaps the Maaori want to be Maaori and not amalgamated into Eurocentric hegemonic ideology? (Clarification: monotheism)
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  251.  @wolfgangweidinger4637  you seemed shocked that "Democracy" was not part of the Treaty agreement so I added another example of an irrelevant concept to illustrate that one size does not fit all. No-one is holding Maaori back: - Native Schools Act - Resource Management Act - Native Land Tax Act - Tohunga Suppression Act - 900,000 hectares stolen from Waikato at gunpoint (To name a few) You seem reasonably intelligent, so I ask you to connect the dots and tell me that Acts of government in NZ have not disadvantaged and marginalised Maaori to the point that they are the most impoverished, most jailed, most openly attacked demographic NZ wide.
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  252. Maaori business netted something like 8b last year. Your old tropes are dusty asf 😂
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  253. ​ @emilyalice1 which govt dept is Maaori only? There isn't one. 😂
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  254. ​ @JG-us9lu 🤪🤪🤪
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  255. And now kids can do it at home by themselves.
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  256.  @simplygreen5832  apples and oranges unfortunately. Completely separate arguments, although thank you for the gunpowder rabbit hole, learn something new every day 👍🏼
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  257.  @simplygreen5832  sry but that's a horrible example comparing P to gunpowder. No one smokes gunpowder anymore.
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  258.  @logicalanswer3529  1: speak their own language 2: build on their own land 3: govern themselves (as stated in The Tiriti) There ya go ya wee troll 😆
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  259.  @kbud3659  "nobody said they were changing it" Seymour"we are changing it". Is your head soft?
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  260.  @bazjones5282  like what? English didn't invent roads, computers, Aircon, cars... none of those are attributable to the NZ colonisers... However, you do know that the trope you are running with originates from America's Southern states... they wheel out "slaves were better off as slaves for us than they were in Africa". You know that right? And, knowing it now, are you ashamed to have used that trope?
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  261.  @kbud3659  I'm not here to educate you. Google Seymour Treaty Change and see for yourself. After that, pretend you didn't see it, return here, and continue your racist bleating 😂 PSA for you as you seem new to YouTube: - Links very rarely make it out of the Review Hold, even if you see them no one else does. - Posting a single comment containing 3 statements is always better than 3 separate comments one after the other. It shows coherence of thought and looks less like trolling (which it probably is anyway). You're welcome 🤗
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  262.  @aoteataniwha6967  what a well thought out response. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
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  263.  @janbrown9195  you can learn about the Treaty on your own can't you? This guy wants to change and alter the Treaty, that's the issue here.
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  264.  @overover..  Maaori have seen these tricks before, don't be so naive 🫶🏽
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  265. Maori and Crown. Two parties. Not "one". Partnership, not amalgamation.
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  266. You're just scared because that's what you'd do 😂
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  267.  @kiwi792  I wish you were right but the guy literally says it in this interview @5:38 .
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  268.  @RoniCarbine  this is a tragic moment and it's important to consider that according to the Ministry of Transport, speed is the second largest cause of road deaths. How many more have to die for National's half-baked ideas? Every agency has strongly recommended against the speed increase!
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  269.  @TarkovTrev  sorry the comparative opposite in that meme format wasn't very clear. Is there some hypocrisy you were trying to illustrate?
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  270. More Hobson Pledge racist propaganda borrowed from slave owner narratives to justify their actions
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  271. ​ @KINNZ94 if your opinion is that the sun revolves around the Earth, that doesn't make it so.
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  272. Ngaati Kahu have been sharing for 170 years, looks like they are pausing their courtesy?
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  273. This one in particular
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  274.  @robertjamesking5314  No idea, you can probably find that out, however I'd like to share this: Free Speech: Everyone has the right to express their thoughts and ideas. It allows open discussions and sharing different opinions. Encourages a diverse and free exchange of information. Protects people from being punished for expressing non-harmful views. Should be used responsibly and respectfully. Hate Speech: Involves saying or promoting harmful, prejudiced, or discriminatory ideas.Targets individuals or groups based on characteristics like race, religion, or gender. Can incite violence or create a hostile environment. Goes beyond expressing opinions and can cause emotional harm. Generally not protected under free speech when it leads to harm or danger.
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  275.  @robertjamesking5314  free speech means not doing harm. Does anything in this discourse look harmless to you?
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  276.  @robertjamesking5314  unfortunately (or fortunately, whatever the case may be) I don't recall seeing any of your debate material. That's something you might want to raise at 9pm every weekday on BHN. I'm here for you should you need support though 🫶🏽
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  277.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  what are you, his dweeby sidekick? 😂 Captain Cracker and Salty Boy to the rescue 😆
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  278.  @robertjamesking5314  you do know that Rastafarians are a reaction to colonisers enslaving humans right?
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  279.  @tomtempest9773  good point, let's add those to the list.
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  280.  @Kenny-er5um  equally annoying when racially bias assumptions are made by non-Maaori about Maaori.
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  281. ​ @Battleneter ACT did this because people like yourself support racism against Maaori. They needed your vote otherwise they would just be toilet specks.
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  282. 😂 "here ya go fools, 2%"
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  283. Hold that Minister to account! What a failure of a governmental experiment the coalition of chaos is
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  284.  @keithmac7596  euww.. ever heard of therapy?
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  285. You spelt old man yells at bird wrong
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  286.  @AntoniaAllison-v8d  so you're saying you want to see the Maaori's qualifications when you say "merit"?
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  287.  @crazykiwican  these numbers are from the election 2 months ago. People don't want the Treaty messed with.
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  288.  @crazykiwican  your racist views are what's wrong with NZ.
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  289.  @Gumpmachine1  in NZ, we choose people over money. We value helping one another, not climbing over one another for leverage. You forget that none of what you claim non-Maaori have contributed would be possible without the Treaty and the signatories of that Treaty, the Maaori people. I agree Maths can give a logical insight into problems, but Maths alone is far too linear, far too one dimensional to be relied on for an issue as multi-layered and misunderstood by Paakehaa as The Tiriti. If you wish to get a fuller picture of the broader sociological ranges in play, you should invest some time in learning the Reo, and learning Maaori history.
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  290.  @Gumpmachine1  your view that money is health is not shared by Maaori in general. You cannot eat money, you can't give it to your dying friend to heal them. Money is used to block access to resource, but capitalism is another story, let's stay on topic. When you go to someone's house, do you walk in, eat everything, take a dump, then put your feet up and say it's your house now? As a guest in this country, please don't be that guy.
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  291.  @Gumpmachine1  "western enlightenment"? 😂😂 You point out prison stats and unemployment stats (which were incorrect fyi) but you don't know why these are so high. You don't mention the part where "western enlightenment" was involved in that. For someone claiming Maths is king, you sure neglected the missing values in that equation.
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  292.  @crazykiwican  you should be thanking Maaori for letting your forebears stay here. But then, they came along directly through the Treaty... so when you change the Treaty, what happens to you? 🤔
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  293.  @Gumpmachine1  the longest living people in the world don't chase or worship money though, they have simple lives with simple natural foods. Do you know why the caged bird sings?
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  294.  @Gumpmachine1  you're saying you're Tangata Whenua? Which waka did your ancestors arrive on?
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  295.  @Gumpmachine1  Colonial forces could not defeat Maaori in combat, please research this topic if you want to be enlightened. You're using Knobsons Bludge rhetoric now 😂
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  296.  @Gumpmachine1  so no Maaori genealogical matter then? Then you are not descended from Treaty signatories and this matter is outside of your interference. It is between Crown and Maaori. You are a settler and not tangata whenua. Please bare this in mind when you enter someone's home and start taking the furniture.
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  297.  @Gumpmachine1  sorry, around 8000 bluecoats (seasoned elite forces directly drawn from Britain's South African colonisation campaign) arrived in 1864. Please do the research prior to hinging opinions to arguments. As I am a solutions based learner, for further reading: - James Bellich NZ Wars - Vincent O'Malley The Great War for NZ - Local Iwi Maaori authorities, you'll have to request an audience for this one.
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  298.  @Gumpmachine1  actually the govt. "represents Crown", it doesn't arrive at decisions on the Crowns behalf. Also, it appears you have judged me without knowing anything about my contributions either way. Do you disrespect King Charles? He's an hereditary King with blood as the only qualifying factor..🤔 Will you admit hypocrisy that you judged me without knowing my achievements at this point? 🤔
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  299.  @Gumpmachine1  as far as I know that was the most Grey could get his hands on after being in jail for sex crimes. At the time of Grey's trumped up accusations, the then Queen Victoria gave Grey full authority over all Imperial forces and resources in the "colony". Bluecoats were not to be trifled with, especially those seasoned from the SA invasions. It's quite gross, but did you know that the modern day hand held RPG was first tested on the Maaori as a prototype? You seem reasonably intelligent, for what it's worth, please go and research 1860ish for details on troop types and numbers. It's fascinating and Maaori resolve is undeniable. It might give you another insight into why Maaori distrust Tauiwi as well.
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  300.  @Gumpmachine1  although in the absence of listing my achievements the judgement still happened. Anyway... I agree with you that hereditary professions are not ideal, imagine an hereditary electrician for example. Yet this does not remove King Charles from his position and respect is given to that. The thing is, there is a contract in place between two entities that does not include 3rd party interlopers. Example Analogy: I have a contract with my bank to buy a home next door to you. You don't like the look of me so you contact the bank and re-write my contract. This is what's happening and it isn't right morally or (as the Ministry of Justice have leaked) legally.
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  301.  @Gumpmachine1  and even though more numerous (see Ooraakau battle, that was 3000 v 300) and with full artillery the British did not conquer Maaori by right of arms. This is a point you will see if you decide to look further.
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  302.  @Gumpmachine1  I have spent quite some time researching the NZ wars and I feel that someone with your intelligence and passion would really enjoy seeing that, it appears you may even be able to view it objectively, outside of a lens of bias? I accept in good faith that you say you did not intend to judge me, thank you for recognising that. Also fyi, I am the 32nd GGson of Anne Boleyn, 36th GGson of Rhys Ap Cynan so I do have English heritage, Welsh, Irish, Scottish as well. I respect this as well as the Maaori heritage and imagine what it would look like if Wales had a modern day attack on the Welsh indigenous people. They would be fighting too.
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  303.  @Gumpmachine1  I guess learning from history is also similarly rough 😵‍💫 Thanks for the convo btw 👍🏽
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  304.  @Gumpmachine1  don't get me wrong, when someone (and there's plenty) starts leaning into the racism part I have no issue hurling schoolyard insults. In your case you came with rationale and some courtesy, so your effort is reciprocated.
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  305. That background looks so amazing to you that you think it's fake 😂 Google Tuurangawaewae Marae and bask in the splendor!
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  306. ​ @Hog-iv7tj hey it's the Seymour Simp who threatened my family with violence 😂
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  307. ​​ @glassini accrued interest and alongside inflation. Where's the back rent @hogwash 😂
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  308. Just chuck it onto the Winston First party bill for changing all the Maaori names
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  309. ​ @karenrhodes9973 you should thank your hosts, not sh1t in their garden.
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  310.  @karenrhodes9973  step out of victimhood Karen.
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  311.  @DW_Kiwi  so, the Treaty is an agreement between who and who?
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  312.  @jaypraxxz7375  no, that is false about the tax. If only 🙄
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  313.  @toast47624  fearful? No. The concern is that uneducated racially biased ACT voters have no say in what the Treaty states, and no mandate to change the document. Treaty is between Crown and Maaori, not the everyday lay NZer who thinks Maaori suck 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  314.  @toast47624  lol, the audacity you have that lets you think you can command me to answer to you is hilarious 😂😂 That is white privilege at it's finest! We agree on Luxon at least🤷🏽‍♂️
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  315.  @rockyjones2563  ngaaw that's nice of you to think of me 🫶🏽
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  316.  @andosoup98  oh you thin so? 🤣
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  317.  @zweed69  sorry can you translate that into either Maaori or English?
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  318.  @andosoup98  and for the first time in his life, he finally felt like he had won at something
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  319.  @zweed69  lol if you want a laugh get a mirror
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  320.  @j6077xxd  given that you have recently realised te Tiriti doesn't say "responsibilities" leads me to assume that you haven't read the Treaty very carefully, although I'm glad you have had a bit of a closer look. As for "special"... please enlighten me as to what you see as "special" privileges that Maaori receive...
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  321. Whew, for a second there I thought it might have been roofed 😂
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  322.  @schlookie  if you do not protect and uphold the Treaty, it does not apply to you, meaning you have no say and should leave. ✈️👋🏼
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  323.  @bobsemple07  said like someone who just lost an argument 😂
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  324.  @ThomasMorunga-y6l  what's not easy?
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  325.  @schlookie  imagine Maaori people telling Indians they have no rights in their own land... You are totally incredulous
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  326. She's willing to destroy NZers health to line her pockets, making smokes cheaper entices kids to start, get rid of her
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  327.  @dobbynp  racist generalisation is your specialty area 😂
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  328. These guys don't know which way is up! Mitchell accidentally told the truth and was reprimanded 😂 5 leaks, off message, not sure if they're a govt. or a gang, just laughable! This is not an occupation that you learn on the job! Just horrid.
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  329. You're scared because the truth of the white supremacist plot to erase Maaori has emerged from within.
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  330.  @Millca  because if you have 10 you needed 20, if you have 20 you need 30. It's the way that white supremacists dismiss non white people.
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  331.  @Greg-k9q  pretty rich coming from you Greg 😂😂😂
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  332. DinoShane fires the first shot and cries when there's return fire😂😂😂
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  333. He came from Palmy, which struggled for many years to overcome anti-Maaori sentiment. Rangitaane and neighbours have done a great job, but Simple Seymour's education is just beginning 😂
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  334. This guy @5:38 "the cost of Erasing"... he slipped on a Freud😂
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  335. Please educate yourself (also grammarly has a free version)😂
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  336.  @BobbythePig  this is the same colonial trope that Knobsons Bludge leans into. Factually incorrect and overflowing with racist rhetoric.
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  337.  @dash-kt7uf  old man yells at bird about sums Winnie the poo up
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  338. We can say ACT got 8%, so that means 92% of NZ does👏🏽not👏🏽want👏🏽 this
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  339.  @JamesMullarneyIsAFraud  because you care about NZ kids??
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  340.  @throughput6674  tbh I think 100 - 8 = 92 might have been primary
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  341.  @throughput6674  newsflash, NZ was not a democracy at all. Probably best described as a Bipartite system, but not quite. This whole democracy thing is a western hegemonic construct but because it suits you right now, you are leaning into it. Do you agree that NZs founding document is The Tiriti? If not I'd rather not waste time debating.
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  342.  @throughput6674  that would be... 100% of the "vote"... you know, like how everyone refers to percentages in voting...🤷🏽‍♂️ That never refers to 100% of people or even eligible voters... that number is indiscernible as they are largely unknown. If there's too many big words strung together let me know and I'll try and simplify.
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  343.  @throughput6674  this thread is about store bought pre-cursory meth ingredients yet you keep stringing it back to Maaori. This is an indication of the deep racial bias you have toward your gracious hosts. That aside, do you want meth pre cursors on the shelf?
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  344.  @rogermartin8435  it appears that "most NZers" couldn't give a rat's a55 about Maaori or the content of The Tiriti. If you genuinely do, if you are not just trying to view it from a perspective of destroying Maaori, then you are truly rare.
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  345.  @darkcrystal438  So 2.4 million acres stolen in Waikato and Taranaki alone is a small amount?
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  346.  @darkcrystal438  So 2.4 million acres stolen in Waikato and Taranaki alone is a small amount?
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  347.  @philipwilliams6307  your argument is pure deflection and red herrings. Whataboutism at its most mediocre.
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  348. Yes, watch the racism flow 😅
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  349.  @Hog-iv7tj  it's the lady that called me a nigger and threatened me with violence again! Aren't you ashamed of yourself?
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  350.  @davethewave7248  They bastardise the name for Thier own gain. Hobo's Pledge is 100% racist political funders.
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  351.  @Stobb0  I agree, we see this in the US senate
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  352. I guess you've never heard of Exxon😂
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  353. ​ @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj yes, you are😂
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  354.  @joeyoung431  this is much bigger, you have to admit that, surely
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  355.  @mitchelldenysschen3224  read the leaked ministry documents for further information.
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  356.  @kiz11a  the plan leaked already, don't be so naive. He's scared, he knows his attempt to destabilise NZ has been noticed. An absolute absence of courage or integrity
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  357.  @dwee3005  fair calls.
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  358.  @andosoup98  oh do shut up. Pseudo = Meth, the end.
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  359. Do you own one of those mirrors?
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  360.  @nukerzerothefirst3417  no surprises then
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  361. Common sense < money
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  362. He loves repeating himself though, did you not watch his Waitangi speech?
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  363. Contrary to popular belief, his pants are not currently on fire 😂 That's what happens when you wear the same suit as last year, reach into your pocket and pull out last years speech 🤣 Amateur. What he just said was "without ACT i could not govern, that's why I'm letting them do it". He's selling out ALL NZers to be in power.
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  364. And English language is a mongrel stolen from 17 cultures 😂
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  365. This is the same environment that created NZ gangs
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  366. ACT got 8% of the vote, Def. not a majority
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  367. He's a chicken, the cowardly leader of a cowardly party.
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  368.  @Colin_Izer1111  Seymour claims to be Maaori from Ngaaphui so he's not a guest. He is, however, a yellow bellied share cropper and an anti-muslim extremist (see him recite the death prayer at the Hindu religious ceremony he attended instead of fronting up at Raatana).
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  369. Imagine 5 million Police 😂
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  370.  @AntoniaAllison-v8d  if myself and my insurance company sign a contract, you as my neighbour have absolutely no say whatsoever in that contract. You do not get to alter or revise that contract, because you are not party to it.
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  371. That you do not recognise it does not make it so
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  372. Both of them just want their snouts in the trough, and yes, they are traitors in most Maaori eyes.
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  373.  @antmanatthemoment7233  not at all, just remember you definitely do not either. I said "most Maaori", which you would know to be true if you spent any time watching current affairs.
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  374.  @antmanatthemoment7233  nor did I, yet you accused me of it 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  375.  @antmanatthemoment7233  in as much as the topical trope goes "most NZers voted for Treaty Touching", it's par for course don't you think?
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  376. Checks out. Cowards supporting a coward.
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  377. Unfortunately this govt. has emboldened racists that previously didn't have the courage to publicly air their ignorance.
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  378.  @AnthonyFlack  No-Ferry Willis is doing her darnedest to get to 20 with shoes on🫶
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  379.  @JohanThiart  may I ask what basis you have to dispute the findings of the best informed body NZ has to resolve those issues?
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  380.  @JohanThiart  America, Norway, Africa... all examples of cultures using legal opinion in national context to base legislation within. Are you claiming the legal scholars you refer to do not belong to a culture?
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  381.  @JohanThiart  so you don't consider the Treaty as tacitly NZs constitution, in the same way that English is an official language?
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  382.  @JohanThiart  I would say the same for you e hoa. Also, thank you for engaging without ad-hominem, you're doing much better than others in this
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  383.  @JohanThiart  you can't just go changing the Treaty for your convenience I'm afraid.
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  384.  @JohanThiart  your refusal to admit the fact that sovereignty was never ceded means you will find it challenging to progress further in any respectful conversation.
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  385.  @JohanThiart  Actually no, you have offered no reference to authentic Maaori leaders claiming sovereignty was ceded. When our founding NZ document was signed there were 80,000 Maaori and around 2000 British subjects here. It's incredulous and ridiculous to suggest that Maaori gave Paakehaa sovereignty over Maaori when Maaori were the clear majority. Some arguments presented by you seem reminiscent of politically low-browed eurocentric tropes and there is a very high likelihood that you have never set foot on a Marae to speak with Iwi about this topic. Adding to this, it is becoming obvious that you have not read the Tiriti because if you had, Article 2 would quite clearly show you that Mana Motuhake and Rangatiratanga is held and ratified by the Crown.
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  386.  @JohanThiart  what specifically was ad-hominem in what I wrote?
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  387.  @JohanThiart  Let's see... ad-hominem ..."Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument". It seems like you're grasping at straws and inventing victimhood. I suggest that you: - get invited to a Marae - speak with actual Maaori about your understanding - inform your friends upon your enightenment Also, if you want to defend Maaori being "insulted", stop espousing the benefits of destroying all things Maaori including language, practice and the enshrined jurisprudence of Te Tiriti.
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  388.  @andrewrushton1272  except the Treaty doesn't mention "individual equality" at all, anywhere. The revisionist Right attempting to reinterpret our nations constitution are leading us down a path of destruction and division.
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  389.  @JohanThiart  Weird flex... So let me get this straight, you pretended I used ad-hominem to distract from the fact that you have no personal understanding of the Treaty outside of colonial right wing talking points? That was the long way around TBF, I dare you to go to a Marae and begin your learning journey ☺️
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  390.  @JohanThiart  It's strange because although you seem somewhat intelligent, your grasp of the Treaty appears anchored in political talking points and doesn't take the pre-amble or article 2 into account. It's fair to say that this is probably not your fault but again, if you want a well-rounded opinion, do go to a Marae and speak with the people you are talking about.
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  391.  @JohanThiart  am I right to assume that's the one time you set foot on a Marae? Although a great first step, the qualification depends on your reason for being there?
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  392. ​ @allgood6760 but which specific tribes went to Reikohu?
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  393. ​ @haydsbeks6550 that's ACTs plan😂
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  394. Goodness me, look at you. You like the doofdoof but not the ooga booga? What kind of NZer are you?
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  395. ​ @StGammon77 Maaori never ceded sovereignty
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  396.  @JRTIGER07  tuupuna made that choice, but in no case was mana Rangatira ceded
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  397.  @s1lv3rbordeaux47  😂😂 I bet you thought you had a "gotcha" moment when you came up with this, but it's shows how uninformed you and most NZers are about Maaori. Settlers started coming here from around 1800. The Maaori in those areas learned English in about 5 days after they first set foot here. Others did not, and that is why the Paakehaa version of the treaty is different and was used as a "bait and switch" to decieve Maaori in that version. Do some research before you have an opinion lol
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  398.  @miri-kc4fu  it's not treason when the group is sovereign, in fact, the opposite would be true 🤔
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  399. Most Paakehaa, Tangata Tiriti agree with the original name returning
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  400.  @Goodvibes-nz  pity your father wasn't though 😂
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  401.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  is that a slavery reference?
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  402.  @AmonAnon-vw3hr  😂
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  403.  @Colin_Izer1111  last I checked, a white supremacist govt was making policies to destroy your generous hosts.
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  404.  @robertjamesking5314  the Earth is round btw.
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  405.  @Colin_Izer1111  the Hawaiian's would like a word 😂
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  406.  @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj  says the guy who whinges on the internet 😂
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  407. Said the least serious troll of all
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  408. You mention "harmless" enough times for the thinking reader to see that you really, really want institutional racism to continue. It's just "harmless" right?
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  409.  @DJDJDJ22  NZ stands with you brother🫶🏽 The audacity of those who choose to perpetuate their callous and inhumane ego trip on true countrymen and women, is testament that white supremacy is alive and well.
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  410. They're tracking the increase of racist rhetoric to release the numbers later in the year demonstrating that the coalition is clearly divisive and causing race hate.
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  411. This is a hugely serious issue of corruption, don't let your ideology cloud your judgement.
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  412.  @icebergrose8955  she's on big tobacco's payroll. This is the most corrupt govt. NZ has ever seen
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  413.  @snigie1  you don't "join" a tribe 😂 which "tribe" did you join?
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  414.  @snigie1  if you belong to a tribe, you belong to a tribe and need to show whakapapa. You don't "join" a tribe. Which tribe do you belong to?
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  415.  @peterthepakeha2799  sorry, incorrect. Try it yourself, you need to prove pedigree.
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  416.  @peterthepakeha2799  educate yourself please.
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  417.  @peterthepakeha2799  okay well, just try and "join" a tribe, don't take my word for it
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  418.  @rockyjones2563  oh whew! Now that you have made a dismissive comment, the Coalition Clown-Car won't legislate to remove Maaori rights anymore 😂
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  419.  @daedalus7677  see it's even making you confused? Metaphorically this govt is like a cerebus, a 3 headed dog where each head wants something different though it shares just one body
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  420.  @daedalus7677  identifying inequities is generally done by data collation and cross referencing. In simple terms: "Inequity refers to a lack of equity, which means “justice” or “fairness.” Where there’s inequity in a community, it means injustice, unfairness, and bias are being perpetuated. That might sound exactly like inequality, but inequities are what cause inequality. Let’s say two people have a heart attack. One lives in a city and reaches a good hospital quickly. The other lives in a rural area where healthcare quality is poorer. Because of this inequity, there’s an unequal outcome". Emmaline Soken-Huberty. Fyi, that was from a 30 second internet search and it's easy, try it yourself👍🏽
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  421.  @daedalus7677  I commented but it was deleted. If you just do a quick internet search you'll find your answer👍🏽
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  422.  @daedalus7677  the question you asked about identifying inequity
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  423.  @AaornkEnt  what, a cobbled together Flintstone-esque coalition clown car? None of these parties achieved votes enough to go it alone so we're getting this mishmash of hogwash that will ultimately end in division and the encouragement of racist discourse that you are now witnessing from settlers in Maaori land.
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  424.  @Battleneter  although I was taking you to task to admit you were incorrect about the MHA and you are yet to admit your failing, therefore I redact the assumption that your intelligence had any semblance of self reflection.
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  425.  @dash-kt7uf  in that we can agree @Beetlenetter
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  426.  @redpink9773  so, you're good with the govt. stopping food for hungry NZ kids?
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  427. Maaori support trans, although apparently racism supercedes your support of Maaori.
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  428. ​@@oneroaringmousetautoko
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  429. All lies from school journals that were publicly apologised for.
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  430.  @purefoldnz3070  you wheel out this specific trope when you want to invalidate Maaori ownership. Unfortunately the historical facts don't support you. 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  431.  @purefoldnz3070  You admit that your tropes are not historically correct, that's called a self-own friend 😂
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  432.  @purefoldnz3070  You used the trope to debase Maaori land ownership, not to address Moorioori. So, your actual point is not to address Moorioori, but to diminish Maaori rights. And that, is what we call racism.
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  433.  @purefoldnz3070  you're using Moorioori as leverage for your ideology that Maaori somehow don't belong in their own land. So, racist and opportunistic to support your political ideals, nice one.
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  434. You forgot about Drumpf
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  435. And after that, the Maaori people will speak
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  436. All legitimate concerns
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  437.  @nukerzerothefirst3417  incorrect, Maaori never ceded sovereignty. Check the Waitangi Tribunal findings and every tribe involved. Think about it, why would 200000 people hand over sovereignty to 2000 settlers..? Exactly, they wouldn't and didn't.
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  438.  @peaceandlovelikeringo  have you ever been Maaori? Your assumptions are extremely negative and dismissive of Maaori.
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  439.  @elgar104  educate yourself about W T Raatana and you'll be a better NZer.
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  440.  @Hog-iv7tj  "from misery to happiness todaaaay, uh ha uh ha uh ha uh ha 😂😂
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  441. ​ @dobbynp you and science are not friends are you 😂
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  442.  @dobbynp  logic is also not an ally of yours I see. To base an assumption there must be some foundation, therefore one cannot make assumptions on "nothing", even if it's incorrect, duh.
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  443.  @jamesfraser2639  so according to you, the Treaty was/is honoured? Pull the other one 😂
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  444.  @jamesfraser2639  that may be true in certain cases, but not on the whole. Also, the onus isn't on Maaori to honour the Treaty 🤷🏽‍♂️
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  445.  @JH-kd6hs  hmmm let's see, the right blaming the left for blaming the right for what the left "secretly does"... someone's been drinking the kool aid 😂
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  446.  @simplygreen5832  come on, very different markets and uses/abuses for both products. You can't compare the two at all imo.
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  447.  @simplygreen5832  alright let's put this to bed. My research suggests that it's around 55 gallons of urine to make a pound of gunpowder that retails for 20$ a pound. The argument comparing gunpowder to urine is very weak, as the sale price of 500$ a gram (one pound is 500 gram) for meth is much, much higher. Do the maths, 20 $ for a pound of gunpowder Vs 250k for the same amount of meth. These numbers are from NZ and US (for the gunpowder). I'm a bit confused as to how you think these two items are comparable in any way.
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  448. Wait so... Colonising settlers gave the Maaori hair? Gave the Maaori tattoos? How racist are you?! 😂😂
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  449.  @logicalanswer3529  Your racist outlook over rides your critical thinking capacity. Everything I listed answers your audacious queries... as if Maaori have to answer to your fragile ego 😂
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  450.  @elgar104  you forgot that the deal is with CROWN and MAAORI. Not the govt. So the sticky wee fingers can't touch it.
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  451. Chloe is smarter than the entire coalition Clowncar rolled together 😂
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  452.  @dash-kt7uf  I replied but it was deleted. TBF, 3 year olds have better Reo than him, he keeps checking his paper and confuses vowels the whole way through. It was cringey to say the least. Also, I have no love for Luxon, but his reo is far better than Seymour's as demonstrated.
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  453.  @overover..  your ignorance seems to override your sensibility. Please don't let your racism obscure that you can be a real NZer 🫶🏽
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  454. This push to eradicate indigenous nations is pure racism and is reflected in NZs govt. push to do the same here. The people will rise. Ngaati Kurii are one of the oldest civilisations left on Earth, and will outlast, endure, and thrive.
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  455.  @monteforae8077  indeed 👍🏽
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  456.  @waynekilgour393  euw, why are you talking about war dude? We need to tighten immigration laws to weed this mindset out 😆
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  457. Is it "on top of" Bish? Simple question
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  458. More leaks are due to the plethora of racist policies
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