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@rikicurtis522 oh dear...
Well, it's quite simple, really, if you take a moment to think about it.
Governments, you see, are essentially like the parents of a nation. Just as parents are responsible for the well-being of their children, governments have the oh-so-basic duty of ensuring their citizens are healthy, safe, and educated.
Without this "parental" care, the society would crumble into chaos. People might, shockingly, start demanding things like healthcare, education, and basic human rights.
Can you imagine the pandemonium?
And then, of course, there's the economy. A healthy, educated populace is more productive, which in turn keeps the economy ticking along nicely. It's almost as if taking care of people results in a prosperous, stable society. Who would've thought?
But, let's be honest, it doesn't take a genius to see that a government's legitimacy hinges on its ability to provide for its people.
Without this, the people might lose faith in their leaders. So, yes, looking after their citizens is the bare minimum governments should do to maintain order and avoid, you know, complete societal collapse.
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@alanlee8645 " I know it’s triggering for some apostles of ‘One Treaty, One Nation’, but colonisation is the reason, demographically, that an entire race of people - Aotearoa’s first people - are over-represented below the poverty line, in material hardship, low-income households, unemployment, in state care, in prisons, on the housing register, in the lack of access to health, housing, education"
- David Unwin
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@secretsanctuaire8217 Let's start with the fact that the Treaty is the only reason settlers were allowed to live in NZ, which, fundamentally includes you.
In your culture, is it okay to go to someone's house, rummage through their pantry and jewellery boxes, take a giant crap, and then hop on the couch proclaiming all the furniture belongs to you? Because this is what is happening.
Also, I can tell by your comment "most if not all chiefs" etc, that you have little to no information about the Treaty or the intricacies, atrocities, and demonstrable inequities intertwined therein.
You are salvageable, but I entreat you to go to a Marae and speak with the Maaori people. I believe in you 🫶🏽
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@damionkeeling3103 it seems there are a lot of misconceptions in your comment that deserve clarification.
Fishing Rights: Maaori fishing rights are about preserving traditional practices under the Treaty of Waitangi, and they are managed in partnership with the Crown, not in isolation from the rest of the population.
Greenstone: The management of pounamu by Ngāi Tahu is a recognition of historical injustices, not an exclusive privilege. This is part of a broader effort to restore what was taken during colonisation.
Stopping Building Projects: Any group, not just Maaori, can raise concerns under the Resource Management Act if a project threatens environmental or cultural heritage. These concerns are evaluated by the authorities, not just accepted without question.
Advisory Boards: Maaori advisory roles on councils are about ensuring that decisions are inclusive and reflect Treaty obligations, similar to how many societies ensure minority representation in governance.
Educational Support: Targeted support for Maaori students in education is about equity, helping to bridge the gaps caused by historical and ongoing disadvantages.
Protected Trees: Maaori do not have unchecked rights to fell protected trees; any such actions are subject to the same legal processes as anyone else.
Funeral Costs: Some iwi may assist with tangihanga costs, but this is typically managed within the community, not directly funded by the government for all.
Land Protests: Protests are governed by the same laws for everyone, and Maaori land protests are not exempt from police intervention.
Family History: Genealogical services provided by iwi are about preserving cultural heritage and are not a free service provided by the government.
Maaori Institutions: The institutions you mention, like the Maaori All Blacks and the Ministry of Maaori Development, are about representation and addressing specific needs within the Maaori community, not about giving special treatment.
Your comment seems to reflect a misunderstanding of how these rights and services work, and it’s important to approach these issues with accurate information and a recognition of New Zealand’s history and the ongoing need for equity, not bias.
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@Abel-Harland Kia ora Abel-Harland,
I hear your perspective, but I must firmly disagree with your assertions.
As a Maaori with a genealogy spanning over 30 generations and a thousand-year unbroken connection to Aotearoa, I cannot accept the idea that our cultures have simply "merged" or that we should disregard our past.
Understanding Historical Pain: The pain and injustices faced by our ancestors are not just distant memories but lived experiences that shape our present. Ignoring these grievances is not moving forward; it's burying the harsh realities that continue to affect us today. To suggest we forget this is to diminish our history and our identity.
Honoring Ancestors: Honoring our ancestors means acknowledging their struggles and the injustices they endured.
It's not about staying stuck in the past, but about seeking justice and recognition for what has happened. This isn't racism; it's a call for equity and respect.
Cultural Integrity: The assumption that most Maaori have Paakehaa blood and therefore our cultures have merged is a colonial mindset that undermines our identity.
While many of us do have mixed heritage, this does not mean our cultures are indistinguishable.
Maaori culture, values, and traditions remain distinct and vital to who we are.
Addressing Past Grievances: Moving forward without addressing past grievances is ignoring the very foundations of the issues we face today.
It's crucial to confront and resolve these issues to build a genuinely inclusive future. Insisting that I act, think, and speak like a colonizer only perpetuates the colonial legacy of assimilation and erasure.
Cultural Identity: Being a Kiwi can mean embracing our shared national identity while also respecting and valuing the unique cultures within New Zealand.
Recognising and honoring the rich, diverse tapestry of our nation, our journey forward must include an honest reckoning with the past, respecting our differences, and working towards a future where all cultures are valued and respected.
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@Abel-Harland My turn for an assumption.
You are wealthy, white, and from a line of privilege that believes they can do whatever they want without consequence.
As a NZer, you appear extremely ignorant of our unique ecosystem so, in good faith please recognise the following about your fun times ripping up nature on your toys.
Pumice swamps at Whakapapa, New Zealand, are unique wetland ecosystems formed in areas where volcanic pumice deposits are prevalent.
The soil is rich in pumice, which has excellent drainage properties but can also retain moisture, creating a unique habitat for various plant and animal species.
The flora in these swamps is adapted to the specific soil and moisture conditions, often including wetland plants and mosses that thrive in such environments.
These swamps support a range of biodiversity, including specialized insect species, amphibians, and birds that have adapted to the unique conditions of the pumice-rich wetlands.
Due to their unique ecological characteristics and the biodiversity they support, pumice swamps are often of conservation interest, and you should be ashamed for even trying to justify your "mudding" there.
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@Abel-Harland My turn for an assumption. You are wealthy, white, and from a line of privilege that believes they can do whatever they want with little consequence.
As a NZer, you appear extremely ignorant of our unique ecosystem so, in good faith please recognise the following about your fun times ripping up nature on your toys.
Pumice swamps at Whakapapa, New Zealand, are unique wetland ecosystems formed in areas where volcanic pumice deposits are prevalent.
The soil is rich in pumice, which has excellent drainage properties but can also retain moisture, creating a unique habitat for various plant and animal species.
The flora in these swamps is adapted to the specific soil and moisture conditions, often including wetland plants and mosses that thrive in such environments.
These swamps support a range of biodiversity, including specialized insect species, amphibians, and birds that have adapted to the unique conditions of the pumice-rich wetlands.
Due to their unique ecological characteristics and the biodiversity they support, pumice swamps are often of conservation interest, and you should be ashamed for even trying to justify your "mudding" there.
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@Abel-Harland
Kia ora Abel-Harland,
I hear your perspective, but I must firmly disagree with your assertions.
As a Maaori with a genealogy spanning over 30 generations and a thousand-year unbroken connection to Aotearoa, I cannot accept the idea that our cultures have simply "merged" or that we should disregard our past.
Understanding Historical Pain: The pain and injustices faced by our ancestors are not just distant memories but lived experiences that shape our present. Ignoring these grievances is not moving forward; it's burying the harsh realities that continue to affect us today. To suggest we forget this is to diminish our history and our identity.
Honoring Ancestors: Honoring our ancestors means acknowledging their struggles and the injustices they endured.
It's not about staying stuck in the past, but about seeking justice and recognition for what has happened. This isn't racism; it's a call for equity and respect.
Cultural Integrity: The assumption that most Maaori have Paakehaa blood and therefore our cultures have merged is a colonial mindset that undermines our identity.
While many of us do have mixed heritage, this does not mean our cultures are indistinguishable.
Maaori culture, values, and traditions remain distinct and vital to who we are.
Addressing Past Grievances: Moving forward without addressing past grievances is ignoring the very foundations of the issues we face today.
It's crucial to confront and resolve these issues to build a genuinely inclusive future. Insisting that I act, think, and speak like a coloniser only perpetuates the colonial legacy of assimilation and erasure.
Cultural Identity: Being a Kiwi can mean embracing our shared national identity while also respecting and valuing the unique cultures within New Zealand.
Recognising and honoring the rich, diverse tapestry of our nation, our journey forward must include an honest reckoning with the past, respecting our differences, and working towards a future where all cultures are valued and respected.
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