Comments by "Itinerant Patriot" (@itinerantpatriot1196) on "Science Time"
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Sorry, but the idea of finding microbial life on Mars or Europa or Titan or wherever someone decides to send a probe just doesn't move the needle for me. I'm sure people who make their living on these Johnny Quest's get excited but spending billions to discover some clump of cells in the frozen region of some distant rock sounds like a helluva waste of time and money. Oh, but it will prove life exists in the universe!!! I can look out my window for proof of that. And this nonsense about building ships that will take hundreds of thousands of years to get to some distant planet in the hope of finding a new home, that is possibly the most narcissistic self-centered idea of all the bad ideas ever put forward. You would be willing to doom generation after generation, longer than we have been building civilizations to an existence of servicing some ship they can never leave and eating and living off what? Warmed over piss from their great grandparents? Eating recycled fecal matter and genetically malformed plant-life? Over time they would forget why the hell they are going to wherever it is they are going and would just give up and die off. The problem with futurists is they are dreamers who discount human nature entirely or act like it just doesn't matter since there is no God or no purpose to anything anyway.
So let's say you decide not to doom your children to some lonely existence hurtling thorough space. Let's say we send some microchip hurling through space at ludicrous speed. Supposing it is able to make it to its destination, I imagine there wouldn't be a whole lot of people left who wouldn't even remember let alone give a sh*t. "Hey, we got a phone call from the USS Bill Gates." "What the f*ck is a USS Bill Gates?"
And please, spare me this BS about these tidally locked planets around red dwarves being good candidates for intelligent life. The only reason these astro-grifters spend so much time obsessing about them is they are the most common star around and they can point to them and say; "see, they have planets in the habitable zone. Give us some more money to study them please because it's really important that we do" Why? "It just is you silly man. How else can I write my ground-breaking peer-reviewed paper Space.com will put out as the next great thing? Just shut-up and trust the science you knuckle-dragging luddite."
If I sound like a total cynic...well, maybe I am. I grew up during the age of Apollo and Star Trek. I bought all the BS NASA and the rest of the scientific community fed me. I believed in going to Mars, that we would be talking with ET by now, and that going to the Moon would be a common and every-day event akin to flying to Pittsburgh for the weekend. Now? Okay, I liked the stuff Hubble found, I even find the stuff Keppler and JWST have spotted interesting. But spending a bunch of cash on some propulsion system to get us to these far off worlds? To boldly go where no man has gone before? I don't know if anyone else has noticed but our country, the U.S., is in a simple term, f*cked right now. Trillions, with a T, in debt, crazies crossing our open border, talk of "national divorce" in the halls of congress. If Europe or even China wants to spend a bunch of time, energy, and resources on these futuristic boondoggles, have at it.
But they won't because they are in a worse place than us. Sorry dude, no bucks, no Buck Rogers. There is just too much stuff that has to get fixed right here on our home rock. There is a sh*tstorm heading our way in the 2030s. The sooner we get out in front of that the less impact it will have, but it's going to be bad, worse than anything that has come before it. There, my contribution to the future. I wish it wasn't so, but I just don't see how it can be avoided. Not that anyone will ever read this post but live long and prosper all the same gang. 🤟
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So the man makes the point about red dwarf stars being poor candidates for life. Makes sense. And since roughly 75% of the stars in our galaxy are red dwarves the odds of intelligent life in the Milky Way shrink considerably. When you couple that with the delicate balance our solar system has managed to maintain, and the variables that go into life on our planet, well, slim may not have left town but he's close. Forgive me if I don't do the happy happy joy joy dance if some microbe is discovered on some moon. If I can't talk with it I'm really not that pumped up. Okay, you prove life can exist if water is present. I can look out my window and see that.
And this stuff about transferring our consciousness to some machine or maybe even a light beam, well I know the transhumanists get all gushy about a post-human era but the argument itself is fraught with so many contradictions it's really too ridiculous to even talk about it. For starters, transhumanists are atheists by default. You can't want to play God unless you believe someone doesn't already have the job. And if you don't believe in God you can't believe we have souls that can survive death. Yet, that is exactly what they are claiming they will one day be able to pull off. They substitute the word soul for consciousness, treat it like it is nothing more than a collection of digital data, and believe that somehow, someway, they can transfer it to something, and then go along and enjoy the ride, an eternity in some heaven they have built for themselves. These are people who don't believe in souls, heaven, or hell mind you. What they have are egos the size of Dyson Sphere.
I think the law averages alone weighs in favor of intelligent life existing somewhere in the universe. To say otherwise is to be just as arrogant as the crazy transhumanists who think living life as a soulless cyborg or riding on a moonbeam is a desirable outcome worth striving for. Perhaps, if we stick around long enough, we'll figure out how a few people will be able to outrun the red giant our sun will become one day, maybe setting up shop on Titan for all I know, but we will never leave our little cosmic corner of the universe and our alien kin will never reach us, so the question; "Is E.T. out there?" will never be answered with any certainty. That's my take on it. And I believe that is part of the plan as well, but that's me. Here's something, how about we figure out how to get along with each other before we worry about having a family get together with our cosmic cousins. Live long and prosper you crazy star voyagers. 🤟
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