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@physicswithpark3r-x3x there absolutely is, cognitive dissonance is real and TDS is just a flavor of that
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TF made this video with 90% recycled content based on unsubstantiated hearsay from reporting by the Washington Post. He created this video within just hours after said reporting, that's how obsessed he is. He won't take this down though or make a correction though, gotta milk all those AdSense dollars and all he had to pay to the piper was his reputation. TF is very smart.
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Name one company which has gone bankrupt under Musk's leadership? The road to success is paved with failures. It's better to try and fail than never try at all. Cherry picking failures whilst willfully ignoring the success isn't healthy scepticism or constructive criticism... it's intellectual dishonesty fueled by hatred and/or greed. Making these videos with recycled content week after week, with nothing noteworthy occurring since the last one, is obsessive compulsive behaviour and unhealthy.
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@orbatos "i would appreciate the achievement more, if there wasn't millions of people affected by the antics, lies and hypocrisy from a single individual"
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Summary: thunderf00t re-hashes the same stale stuff he's said about musk for over 15 minutes, does some simple maths based on flawed assumptions to arrive at the result he wants to mock musk and finally after about 30 minutes it finally unfolds as to why thunderf00t has made this video and it has nothing to do with "busting" starlink... Thunderf00t is upset that Musk's satellites are getting in the way of astronomers looking at stars from earth. PS Phil, you might want to read this to get you started on entry level ISP stuff: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio
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@mythbuster6126 oh kind of like you being blinded by your feelings that you're unaware of Telsa using LFP (cobalt free) batteries? Or you are aware and just being intellectually dishonest? 🤔 Either way, fantastic first post Mr Myth Buster, totally not off topic and i'm honored you chose to break your cherry on me (pun intended)
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Paying a camera man to take footage of empty seats to bring yourself pleasure over a man you hate is the most hilarious self-own. And you're entirely oblivious, aren't you? It's like corn to you, you'll be basking in the like, choking that chicken. Society is fine. This is fine. No really it's perfectly normal behavior from a very healthy and stable individual. I mean look at those empty seats, how good does thst feel, oh yeah! Zoom in baby. Closer. Show it all to the camera baby 😂
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@EEVblog TF calculations are flawed on this video.. On the 100W usage thing it'd be much much less... to use an analogy think of a mobile phone.. the power drain on the battery whilst using just data/internet is drastically different to being on a call - the difference being due to radio transmission. It's also based on the assumption the return path will also be via satellite, most consumer satellite services use an alternative return path (eg dsl, cell, wireless etc)
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@kyarumomochi5146 do you not consider selling Ebay for 1.5 billion in 2002 or becoming the worlds leading EV car manufacturer successes? Weirdo.
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We now cross live to Kamala Harris's campaign HQ for an update on the ENERGY... 🦗
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I'll admit, i have no idea who the prof is and so i was definitely fooled/mislead by the out off context clips. I dont know if im happy or sad about this, good to see people like you are keeping him honest (ty), but kinda sucks that its a thing you had to do.
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People acting like he cured cancer diminishes the achievement how exactly? "I would appreciate it more if other people appreciated it far less"
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@bobbart4198 indeed it's not peanuts, how much did boeing get for stranding 2 astronauts on the ISS?
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@kyarumomochi5146 i said name one, not a list.. here are two: Tesla and Ebay Now your turn, name one which went bankrupt.
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Where is the busting? I've only skimmed through the video as it just appears like a bunch of movie references with no actual busting. We get it, you hate Musk and are jealous he gets so much media coverage but these videos are by no means "busting". It's just mudslinging and ad hominem - not a good look for an academic professor.
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The problem is: 1) he recycles the same content over and over in the musk videos 2) it's the vast majority of content he has been producing in recent years - just look at the past year of videos. I still like his other ones but every time it's a Musk one i just groan and skip. I know i'm not alone. 3) he monetizes the videos Now #3 in itself isn't a big deal, there is no problem getting ad revenue for your hard work.. but it's not hard work when you are padding out the videos to make them mind numbingly long and tedious, do you know what type of ppl are the only ones who will sit n watch them with glee? People who have an extreme hatred towards Musk and get a kick out of watching the same critique over and over. Try make your mom sit through an entire one if you disagree. No intelligent viewer would enjoy having their time wasted watching recycled content - it's frankly disrespectful to the audience. Why does he do it then? Money. Longer video, more ads, more money. If you enjoy these and watch them start to finish, you're free to continue doing so and i won't even hate on you for doing so... each to their own as they say... but make no mistake, you're being used for Phil's own personal gain. He should do a video on how much ad revenue he has generated on all these videos, we would ALL be interested in that right?? He's done similar ones before when he couldnt get some videos monetized. Alas I wouldn't hold my breath...
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@Bacteriophagebs cant accept that some dudes equipment uses 100W? sure i can.. i dont dispute he's telling the truth, but thats not scientifically significant to "busting" starlink. It could use 200W and electricity prices could quadruple - it has meaningless significance to the feasibility of starlink. Scientifically however, the transmitter power does need to be taken into consideration - this is in no way related to wall socket consumption or cost of electricity though. You just in an angry mood or are you always this argumentative for no purpose?
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@scottrussell360 right i must have missed the when he committed to firm deadlines based on his ambitious timelines by saying - this is my standard and you can hold me to it! I'm sure you critique Bezos, Boeing and even NASA thenselves for being even further behind their estimated schedules than Musk yeah? Or does he get special attention cause he does more casual interviews than all the others. Keep on hatin' to make yourself feel better for your own inadequacies and insecurities ✌️🤣
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@tatata1543 how do you think astronauts are getting to/from the ISS for the past few years? The retired space shuttle? 🤣
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@justdrewit2219 I thought it was a wendy's! I was hungry. I'll try to be better. I'm sorry 😢
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His calculations are too simplistic https://youtu.be/Kas0tIxDvrg
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@nmslesecnmbese917 ...and thunderfoot is a physicist, neither have anything to do with epidemiology? I normally like thunderfoots videos but these corona ones seem focused on bashing the USA (and im not american btw) as he ignores every other country including his own for these calculations. Anyhoo it shouldnt be about being "convincing" it should be about being realistic and as scientifically accurate as possible - thats always the appeal of thunderfoot. If you have watched BOTH videos right the way through i'm confident most people will have a slightly different take on thunderfoots compared to ONLY watching his. Knowledge is useful, more of it is always better than less...
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@Bacteriophagebs uh, no, over the air calls do not use VOIP but the protocol being used is irrelevant. To really simplify this for you since it was an ANALOGY - which you even got backwards, making a call is more power intensive than browsing. And thats even with the screen off during a call. Processor has little to do with it. Don't believe me? Make a 3 hour call...
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@Bacteriophagebs you're focusing on irrelevant pedantic points that have nothing to do with the topic - power requirements to send/receive data, whether it be starlink device or cell device. The analogy was merely to explain the difference between transmitting an intermittent trickle (browsing) and transmitting a continual stream (call). If you want to get all pedantic lets take calls out of the equation entirely. Whilst a mobile phone has a 1-4W transmitter they do not consume that amount of power continuously, it will fluctuate according to traffic. The whole concept of him using 100W based off a dude living in an RV is the most petty reasoning ive seen TF use to so-call "bust" something. As if someones electricity bill is a factor to whether starlink is plausible or not is ludicrous just on its face, but to then use an arbitrary value based of some dude's youtube clip is an incredibly disingenuous way to then come to an annual total. Long story short this whole "busted" video hinges on 2 napkin calculations, breakeven cost and power consumption. Both based from cascading bad assumptions - heck he doesn't even bother to google contention ratios to get some actual real-world estimates, he just makes it up!
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@Bacteriophagebs wow according to one test. Well guess uts busted then, starlink is doomed based on the results of a test. No way it could be more efficient, the maths you provided makes it very clear, generating EMF requires the same amount of power for p0rn and email so BuStED! smh
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@Glenhh why haven't Boeing managed to complete a successful crewed mission to AND from the ISS yet? Why are those 2 stranded astronauts going to be returning to earth in a Crew Dragon capsule made by Space X instead of a Starliner capsule made by Boeing? 🤔 I know which one i'd trust with my life, i'm fairly sure CHL does too, do you? "If it's a Boeing i ain't going"
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@SciHeartJourney if i can only take a single parachute (no reserve) with me for a skydive... i'm choosing a previously used one over a brand-new first-time use one, each and every time, absolutely, no questions, without a doubt, hands down. Same with scuba equipment, planes, abseiling equipment and so on.
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@bobbart4198 "i would appreciate the achievement more, if it cost peanuts and was completed sooner" - cured cancer patient
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@randycampbell6307 you don't want to look into the boeing situation then, you didnt know they were contracted to do the same thing for more money did you? Funny how TF hasnt mentioned this ever huh?
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@randycampbell6307 i'll let NASA know they don't need that Crew Dragon capsule it was carrying to rescue those 2 astronauts because randycampbell said it's not needed. I'm sure they'll be super happy and agree with you! Those astronauts got themselves into that predicament, they can figure out a way home all by themselves and boeing! Aint that right randycampbell?
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@randycampbell6307 lol thats some serious saltiness you got there. Crew Dragon didn't have to abandon 2 astronauts and have them return to earth using a competitors product. If NASA wanted to have control over the development of the product and own the intellectual property they could pay Space X accordingly - the contract has milestones they need to reach but that's it. Boeing were going to be in the only ones with a contract - it was only the influence and cautious thinking of the head of human exploration in NASA who managed to convince them to have a competitor also develop a capsule as a backup and to keep Boeing honest on costs. Boy oh boy did that turn out to be a good idea as the backup has become the primary. Not only that but Boeing are now running at a loss - you can bet if this was NASA's only option they'd just have to cover that cost blowout, but with Space X having a fully functional product they don't need to give Boeing anything extra. The results speak for themselves. If you're having to bring up Russia in order to criticize Space X you've lost the plot my friend. Stay salty! 👍✌️
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@randycampbell6307 someone had too much aderall today, didn't they, look at all those replies you're typing.. yikes!! You've lost the plot if you need to bring up Russia to criticize Space X 🤣
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How do you get only 5 tons carry weight? Even using your own numbers it dont compute... it should be a range not a single numer DIESEL 36 ton max - 16 ton empty diesel = 20 ton carry BATTERY 36 ton max - 16 ton empty diesel - (8 to 16 battery) = (4 to 12 carry) So basically you are equating (4 to 12) as simply 5.. and you're not subtracting the weight of the diesel powertrain. Will a Tesla truck carry less? Yes of course the weight of batteries chew into the maximum allowed but its not about carry weight - its about the cost per mile per ton. How could an electric truck beat diesel? By making the cost to power/fuel it cheaper than diesel. Is that possible? Yes, diesel is a non-renewable single energy source.. generating electricity however is renewable and can be done via many sources. Progress generally requires lots of failing before you finally become successful... i'd rather the world have more Elon's than bitter academics... ie people not afraid to think outside the box and try stuff even if the napkin maths don't make much sense. Each to their own though, you don't become as rich and successful as Elon Musk by creating vaporware. And if he wants to spend lots of his money on ideas that other people think are stupid.. i say more power to him!
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Oh no, he's a hypocrit? What next, he's liar too? Golly gosh how dare he not live his life according to other peoples standards and opinions of him.
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@ambralemon literal fraud? Oh my! The government should probably do something about that ASAP and stop Musk from launching a rescue mission for those 2 astronauts stranded by boeing. They can wait, this is taxpayer money after all and i certainly dont want taxpayer money going to literal fraud no matter how many lives are at risk! 3 billion would buy a lot of ammunition for Ukraine and Israel
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@ggir9979 do you know what a tender is? Besides a piece of succulent chicken. Space x isnt handed money to develop anything, they have to compete im a tender process to win fixed-price contracts with specific deliverables. If things go over budget they don't get to ask for money, and if they weren't delivering on past commitments you think they'd keep being awarded new contracts? You thinking NASA are paying royalties for every falcon 9 launch is adorable, i sure hope they pay an additional royalty for rescuing those astronauts Boeing stranded up there.. Boeing should patent that before Blue Origin steal their IP 😅
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@scottrussell360 ah yes i'm coping about what exactly? I'm not the one searching for petty criticisms about someone you're jealous of. Geez, is the guy running several huge companies not able to complete all the things by the estimated times? How awful. And is he getting lots of money from the government. How terrible. Golly gosh i don't know how i'm going to cope knowing he's let you down. You know what will make you, a grown adult, feel better? Writing comments about him on the internet. 🤣 Adorable! Have a good one buddy, keep obsessing over that guy who is way more successful than you and i.. that's a healthy and mature way to deal with the discomfort ✌️
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@jonnelson9760 he can do whatever tf he wants frankly, what makes you think your a better person? Writing childish stuff on the internet about a guy you don't like? Yeah that'll impress the ladies way more than Musk with his billions of dollars that you believe he lied, cheated and stole to get. Repeatedly from the government too! I mean, even if one assumes all this is true, you're essentially giving him a compliment as that would take some real skill to pull off for decades... what have you accomplished?
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@orbatos keep on telling yourself that, seriously, you think the worlds richest person runs several huge companies - each of which is highly sought after to work for by the worlds leading engineers - has no skills? He just lied and cheated his way to the top and you could totally do it too, in fact, in your brain you genuinely think you could do it even better if only you were given the same head start as him.. dont you? 😆 Here i'll leave you with a test, it's a really simple test, a test which i bet you will refuse to do, why is that? Because of the type of person you are and basic psychology... so here goes. All you need to do is the following thing between the two lines: ----------- Say something about yourself that is self deprecating and sincere. ----------- Here i'll even go first to show you how it's done, it's easy for me but i suspect extremely difficult for you - i'm not a very good speller and would make a lot of mistakes without spellcheckers. Now your turn chief... I'll only respond further if you're able to do this simple thing.. i can do it, Musk can do it, but can you.. ? 😉
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@orbatos even if i pretend everything you said is true, how is space x ahead of boeing to develop a crew capsule? Boeing were awarded a 4.2b contract first, space x was awarded a 2.6b contract after Gerstenmaier (head engineer of human exploration program for NASA) convinced the government they should have a competitor to boeing just in case. Now the immediate answer would be, well Musk just hired better people than boeing and it's those people doing all the hard work. Okay, cool, but how did Musk know which people were better or the best compared to boeing? Your answer to that could be Luck? He just happened to get lucky in a coin toss when selecting candidates for the job. Okay, cool, if that's the case why hasn't boeing managed to lure these worlds best engineers to either return or work for them - especially as they were awarded more money they could surely match or beat Musk on pay, and if Musk is just a bafoon without any knowledge as you claim, not only that but then taking all the credit for the hard work of others.. surely they would jump ship yeah? But here is the kicker, Musk is the head of space x, even if he didn't own the company that in itself is an achievement. A huge one. That alone is undeniable and upsets you, attacking me or Musk may make you feel better about yourself but it won't change the simple fact that Musk is the head of space x - the company that will rescue the 2 astronauts that boeing stranded on the ISS on their very first crewed Starliner mission to the ISS. Oof.
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@orbatos both space x and boeing only get paid when they achieve certain milestones. Call it whatever you want, it changes nothing! The 2.6b awarded to space x wasnt handed to them up front, just as the 4.2b award to boeing wasn't handed to them up front. TF doesnt mention boeing though does he, yknow why? Cause they are even further behind than space x - they told NASA they could have Starliner fully operational by 2015! They completed their first crewed mission to the ISS a few months ago which went swimmingly didnt it 🤣
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@MrDasfried truth is important to me and truth be told there is a social experiment aspect ... it's interesting testing how narcissists react, which is a very high percentage of the ppl here. You're not one of them btw, how do i know? The question you asked me and it's why i have given you a sincere reply ✌️
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@bachinblack174 you never heard of Myspace and Facebook?
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6:30 "It tastes like burning" hehehe... totally should have put Ralph from the Simpsons there saying the same thing :)
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This video tells me Trump has won. A tired old convicted felon, part time McDonalds worker, part time garbage man, who thwarted 2 assassination attempts, beats the most unpopular Vice President in history. Feel that energy. The enthusiasm. What can be, unburdened by what has been.
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How much did Boeing get in funding for stranding those 2 astronauts still up there in the ISS? Are they on ahead or behind on their schedule? If you think you can do it so much cheaper why not go work for Blue Origin or start your own space company?! What would your father think of these videos Philip?
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@davidwatson8118 oh do boeing get a different type of funding from the government? Can you elaborate how it is different muppet?
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@davidwatson8118 oh do boeing get a different type of funding from the government? Cause i could swear the title of the video states 3 billion busted and in the intro he speaks negatively about how much government funding Space X gets. How is it different exactly?
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@davidwatson8118 Accusing an interlocutor of whataboutism can also in itself be manipulative and serve the motive of discrediting, as critical talking points can be used selectively and purposefully even as the starting point of the conversation (cf. agenda setting, framing, framing effect, priming, cherry picking). The deviation from them can then be branded as whataboutism. Both whataboutism and the accusation of it are forms of strategic framing and have a framing effect
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@davidwatson8118 are you able to explain how funding from the government for boeing is a different subject to funding for space x? That seems like deflection to me?
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@davidwatson8118 what you fail to understand is that my point is about funding from the government not boeing
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@davidwatson8118 my 1st 2nd and 7th words were "how much funding" - is the order of these words important to your comprehension of the question? I can re-order if it helps: How much funding from the government did boeing get for stranding 2 astronauts on the ISS?
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@coolguyenglish4484 you understand Space X and Boeing were contracted to develop and manufacture the same thing right? And that Space X has been transporting astronauts and cosmonauts for a while now, yet despite having a head start, that was Boeing's first attempt at a manned mission. If you don't understand the apples to apples comparison of this, and that any criticism regarding Space X being a behind schedule or the amount of money they are receiving from the government is pale in comparison to Boeing - i cannot make it any more obvious. If your competitor was beating you by delivering their capsule sooner and cheaper than yours, you don't see the relevance? I bring up his father as this obsession with Musk correlates to his father passing away. It's not a question for you, it's not a question i even seek an answer for - it's merely a question for him to reflect on. Again, if you don't comprehend this simple and succinct question i cannot make it any more obvious.
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@coolguyenglish4484 Boeing were contracted to do the same thing, started earlier, allocated more money and despite this.. that was their first attempt at a manned mission. Space X have been doing it for a while now and did so cheaper. Boeing are now running at a loss and they've burnt through what they've received and to get the next instalment they need to deliver. Perhaps now you might understand their haphazard mission and how embarrassing it is for the astronauts to be returning via Space X not Boeing.
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@coolguyenglish4484 @coolguyenglish4484 Boeing were contracted to do the same thing, started earlier, allocated more money and despite this.. that was their first attempt at a manned mission. Space X have been doing it for a while now and did so cheaper. Boeing are now running at a loss and they've burnt through what they've received and to get the next instalment they need to deliver.
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@coolguyenglish4484 they were contracted to do the same thing, started earlier, allocated more money and despite this.. that was their first attempt at a manned mission. Space X did it sooner and cheaper. Boeing are now running at a loss as they've burnt through what they've already received and to get the next instalment they need a successful manned mission.
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@coolguyenglish4484 i think you mean slower and costlier... Boeing are now running at a loss for their slace program
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@coolguyenglish4484 Space x is faster for less ...
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@coolguyenglish4484 i think you mean delivering quicker and cheaper, you said the years and dollars..
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@coolguyenglish4484 test
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@coolguyenglish4484 huh? Both Boeing and Space X won a contract from NASA to develop a crew capsule to transport astronauts to/from space. The one made by Space X is called Crew Dragon and has been transporting humans for many missions and months now. They are well ahead of Boeing - both in terms of how long it took and how much it cost. The one made by Boeing is called Starliner and we saw how their first ever manned mission went - they've taken far longer and now running at loss as they've burnt through the money allocated so far. I can't believe you're so desperate to dislike Musk and Space X that you're taking the side of Boeing - the ones who have planes with doors flying off mid flight due to them focusing on shareholders rather than engineering excellence. Good grief, i hope you remember this the next time you board a Boeing 747 passenger plane.
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@coolguyenglish4484 not quite https://youtu.be/5ejHYVamyiw?t=413&si=bDpmR_qe6SqRBT-O it's not what you think
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@coolguyenglish4484 it was to develop a crew capsule.. the one made by X is Crew Dragon The one made by Boeing is Starliner A decent docu going into more detail https://youtu.be/5ejHYVamyiw?t=413&si=bDpmR_qe6SqRBT-O
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@coolguyenglish4484 lol yes, going in to bat for Boeing is the sensible choice here. My apologies you dislike Musk so much you're having to side with the ppl who make planes with doors falling off due to quality controls 🤣
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@coolguyenglish4484 it was to develop the Starliner capsule.. they are returning on Crew Deagon capsule
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@coolguyenglish4484 it was to develop a crew capsule
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@coolguyenglish4484 crew capsule
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@coolguyenglish4484 yes
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@coolguyenglish4484 how do you suggest NASA get astronauts to/from space? Good luck flying on a Boeing 767 MAX, you're going to need it to survive these days..
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@LazorVideosDestruction other way around, voice of thunder was created around the start of the pandemic and as the name suggests was just him talking - specifically about his thoughts and opinions on whatever rather than his typical science and busted content.
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@dabajabaza111 Trump has been declared the unofficial winner, Harris would need to win every single remaining state to win
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@mint-o5497 cognitive dissonance is a psychological term used to describe a common behavior or method humans use in response to the discomfort they feel when presented with information or data that is inconsistent with their beliefs or previous statements. In order to resolve this inconsistency and the discomfort it brings, rather than changing their beliefs or accepting they may have been incorrect, they will instead reject or ignore the information and data and in extreme cases take irrational actions in an effort to restore internal harmony. We all do it to some degree much like lying, and it can be conscious or subconscious - in short it's a coping mechanism. We humans don't like inconsistencies or discomfort and will do just about anything to avoid it.
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@TheEconomicElder ahh so that's why they are jizzing themselves, it's the day he did 3 hours with Rogan Lab grade copium 😂
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@drd0114 im just average awareness, you're the highest! 🥰
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How is Joe Biden still President? Fair and in consistent application of the Law left the USA a long time ago.
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Medicinal gummi bears?! TAKE MY MONEY!!! :)
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YAY! A science related non-musk-hating video 🥰 A rare treat and proof the old thunderf00t is still in there somewhere, deep deep down (pun intended), i wish he visited more often.
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I get a sense that you're wanting to crap all over america, but im kinda surprised as usually you go for a realistic representation not a representation that depends on all the stars aligning for the worst case scenario.. you cant just plot a logarithmic graph like you've done and call it a day.. https://youtu.be/Kas0tIxDvrg
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A historic moment in time. Truly a sight to behold. We've come so far as a society that someone thinks a cameraman deserves a medal for filming empty seats. The hate is so strong they are in ecstasy looking at what they believe is unedited footage of empty seats and Trump on stage. Joy 😹
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Yet another Anti-Musk video masquerading as being about SmarterEveryDay. Way to ride on the coat tails of a great man to spew your typical hatred, Dr Philip Mason PhD
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Well which is it? Starlink is critical aid and Musk is a conman who has the US government over a barrel or Starlink is not critical aid and the US government can tell Musk to eff off like the Ukrainian official? Can't have it both ways.
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TF needs to massage those numbers though, it's totally okay when he does it.. but not Musk.
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@dnomyarnostaw massaging numbers is a term used in the business world, has nothing to do with guesstimates.. point is Thunderf00t is selecting numbers to arrive at a desired result, just as Musk did with the submission to the US government. Both of them skewed things in their favor to suit their objective, this entire video is essentially TF doing the exact thing he is criticizing Musk of doing - it's not like TF couldn't have actually multiplied by 12 instead of 10, especially when its 450 vs 540... it was intentional to fit the narrative better.
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@dnomyarnostaw not when you are trying to arrive at a total cost of $400 million - as thats the figure given by Musk and the foundation of TF's critique in this video, if you missed it watch from timestamp 3:18 By rounding down, TF is massaging his exaggerated napkin maths in his favor, ie 450 is "about" 400 whereas 540 is not and high enough a counter argument could be made. Perhaps you dont possess this level of attention to detail, but i can assure you TF and his colleagues do, thats the amusing irony of videos like this.... and this specific OP's remark.
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 @AnonymousB460 yeah just you wait til Nokia, Blockbuster and Atari make a come back.. it'll be any day now
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 @TheLukeStein fr it'll get bigger babe i swear.. it's in growth mode
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@mezzb i hope one day you can overcome that resentment you hold and do something more productive with your time than write diatribes about hurt feelings. Just think of how many hours you've wasted typing cringe insults like STALE. And what do you have to show for it? At least TF monetizes these videos so i can understand why he does it, but you? No clue.
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Haters gunna hate. I guess you don't know about Elon's history... id suggest reading up on what Elon did before Ebay, as in when he was a teenager with just a PC - he's a talented and motivated person whether you like him or hate him. Ideas alone are useless, whether its yours or someone elses, the difficult part is bringing them to fruition. If you're too scared to try and fail you will achieve very little in life. Oh remind me again, who came up with the idea of developing an electric road-legal sports car.. namely the roadster.. and actually managed to make it happen despite the critics saying it's a stupid idea at the time? If it wasn't Elon who was it?!
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@Beer_Dad1975 who exactly has Elon exploited and lied to in order to make billions of dollars? What exactly has he done that is unethical? You make a lot of vague claims but i bet you cant back any of them up with even a shred of evidence.. merely the opinions of a bitter person with a demented view of the world. Are there any billionaires you respect or are you one of those types that think nobody with that amount of money can be a decent human being?
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@rootbox6466 the roadster was NOT a concept prior to Elon - the Telsa company was prior to him, the idea of making electric vehicles was prior to him.. But the creation and design of the actual roadster was Elon. I see you convienently left out that portion of the wiki page you pasted, i wonder why. As ive already stated, coming up with an idea is fairly worthless.. Do you think the two initial founders of Tesla where the only ones in the world to think up the idea of creating an electric vehicle? Of course not! If all they required was money in order to create the worlds first road legal electric car, why bring Elon into the fold? Why not just find a silent investor and get it done? If it was your pet project that you felt you could handle all by yourself, would you bring on and investor and then appoint them to design and create your first product? More to the point if said investor had no value or skills other than their huge wallet, like you seem to suggest, then do you really think that investor would be able to actually see the design and creation of your pet project through to completion? Hate on Elon all you want, but there are few people in the entire world who could achieve what Elon has, with or without bucket loads of cash.. And with or without stealing other peoples ideas etc. I think most of Elon's critics are simply enaging in tall poppy syndrome. Elon could have retired decades ago, but he just keeps going from strength to strength and that annoys you.. doesnt it?
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@rootbox6466 blind love? Ahh, you probably subscribe to the "us versus them" mentality or tribalism... where the only 2 options is to either hate or love someone, no inbetween or exceptions. Anyone who says anything even remotely positive about someone you hate must obviously just be brainwashed. It couldn't possibly be that they see things differently to you. He didn't just "oversee" but if thats what you think a CEO does (which is completely different to a chairman btw) you clearly have no knowledge of running a business or company, nor any leadership skills. It kinda explains why you have the jaded view of him though - if it were as simple as sitting in a chair stroking a cat like Dr Evil while everyone else does all the work why haven't you done it? Sounds like a pretty cruisy life. Lack of money? Well find an investor, should be easy yeah? You got a solid business plan ready that investors can look over right? Where have i given him praise on anything BUT his achievements and accomplishments, seriously point it out to me. I'll wait. You make all these crazy claims and accusations that are so easily disproven just by scrolling up.. maybe you're used to just berating someone rather than actually having to justify your opinion with something of substance, im starting to get the vibe that you're a teenage kid so i'll cut you some slack. And lastly yeah, his name is Elon. I don't know what sort of weird world you live in, but where i am people generally refer to other people by their name. I suppose you refer to him using some sort of childish slur or name calling?
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@rootbox6466 re-reading just your messages i agree, apologies i've mixed up you and the other guy.. my bad
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@rootbox6466 PS Winfrey or Oprah? 🤔
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@Beer_Dad1975 hmm you consider Bill Gates less evil than Elon Musk... interesting take.. we have polar opposite compass needles. But ngl i lost it at disgusting 😂
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@Apolloartz it matters as the title of the video is he is grifting for clicks ... it's not technically clicks but money. It's what most people consider as being a hypocrite. He is guilty of that which he accuses. I've said my piece, all the best! ✌️
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@JH-pt6ih personality traits are science, it's psychology. Look up psychometric testing, many fortune 500 companies use them as part of the hiring process. Once you've been through it once (i have numerous times) and see the results about yourself, you'll likely change your tune about it being pseudoscience.
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@Apolloartz his Starlink one is littered with errors, particularly with his napkin maths. The most glaring and succinct point i can highlight is he doesn't factor in something we in the business call "contention ratio". Thing is, he could have first spoken to someone who works in the industry to get a better idea of the backend side to running an ISP but he's too arrogant for that. Creating a video like this demanding "prove him wrong" is in bad faith, he's been proven wrong in the comments on previous videos but he'll never acknowledge this. I personally commented on that Starlink one about this very thing. But here is the kicker, the bulk of the content in these videos is opinion based.. it's futile to argue over opinions because they are just that.. an opinion. The proof in the pudding however is the test of time. He said Starlink is doomed to fail, won't be economically viable etc etc.. yet here we are Starlink has gone from strength to strength. It's growing in available locations and customers and guess what, other EU satellite companies are now looking into creating their own Starlink type equivalent. Remember all that controversy about Musk rejecting Ukraine's request and congress having a cry? If the US military had an alternative to Starlink for Ukraine do you think they would still be reliant on Starlink after that? At least we agree on one thing though.. it's all about the engagement/clicks/money. You've just proven him wrong yourself by saying so 🥰
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@Apolloartz indeed it's rare for people to have a calm disagreement and a welcome change on the rare occasions it still happens. We are both part of the same game but i am no pawn, i have not nor do i intend to watch this video. My engagement with it is not to his benefit 😉 I still enjoy his other content and will continue to watch that, but his obsession with Musk seems unhealthy and made me respect him far less. He's intelligent enough to know what he's doing and so are his academic peers. Picking low hanging fruit to dunk on and then making wide sweeping generalizations as Phil does in these is not an admirable quality but you'll find plenty of cheerleaders for it in the comments nonetheless.. they're the ones he's playing this tired tune for and will continue until the well runs dry. There's a reason Tesla and Space X are two of the most sought after places to work by engineers time and time again in surveys and the like. It's not because Musk is a grifter or engineers are dumb and easily fooled... quite the opposite. Anyhoo, good chat mate and all the best!
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@natel7382 huh? I think you are confusing Space X with Starlink. Starlink is the business and residential internet product of Space X. Space X has government contracts, Space X provides the US military with undisclosed services. It has nothing to do with Starlink - if i recall correctly Space X has been contracted to deploy a Starlink style alternative dedicated for the US military - does that sound like something the US government would do if the US military could do it themselves or had another option? Starlink services were initially donated by Musk to Ukraine in the early stages of the war, when the war began to drag on and Musk said they could no longer afford to keep offering the service for free, after some argy bargy the US government agreed to foot the bills (at least partly) for the Ukraine services as the alternative risk was Musk turning the services off. Starlink's profitability or survival is by no means dependant on the small revenue brought in by the Ukraine services - there would be a couple thousand of them at most. It was given to them for free for months, does that sound like something a company would do if it was loosing money?! Starlink's customer base would be in the hundreds of thousands and rapidly approaching a million, if not already there. Are you suggesting that Musk's grand plan for Starlink revolves around giving services to Ukraine for free to then bait the US government into paying for them as means of making Starlink profitable? On the more customers slower service, want to have a guess what "contention ratio" relates to?
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Goldilocks cake sounds delicious! No idea what it would be but has to be tasty with that name :)
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Thunderfoots calculations are too simplistic https://youtu.be/Kas0tIxDvrg
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How is Joe Biden president of the United States of America? That doesn't bother you though, does it? Why is that...
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@GleeChan it's quite simple really - it's called the power of deduction, or more formally deductive reasoning. Whilst you may firmly believe you were merely talking about Musk, there is much more that can be deduced about yourself from that original single sentence. There is nothing of substance with respect to Musk, he's a public figure not public speaker - he can be a bit awkward at times, blunt and direct too which overly sensitive ppl like yourself have difficulty handling, especially if it's constructive criticism, but he can certainly string a sentence together.. i'd go so far as challenging you to find an example where he doesn't. Or just wanders off like a roomba More interestingly, you didn't address my one and only question - if anything you over reacted, in a rather aggressive manner that a person with control issues would and in doing so somewhat confirmed my suspicions. A pleasing result overall, cheers! In the words of Shakespeare, the lady doth protest too much me thinks 😂
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@Lagrangeify thx babe, very insightful 😘
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You must mot know very many people if Musk is the only person you know who does this. Heck even Amazon announced their flying drones for packages before showing a working prototype but i don't see an angry mob going after Bezos for that. I hope one day the sufferers of Musk Derangement Syndrome can overcome their affliction, it doesn't seem healthy.
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@Rob2 you dont comprehend how insignificant the wall socket power consumption is to whether starlink is busted or not do you? Yes, lets bog down on whether or not one or a thousand rabbits are necessary for predicting carrot consumption too while we are at it.. Cause thats has about as much to do with busting starlink as the price of data from Amazon.
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@Shadow66090 Skylink? If you're as sloppy wiping your behind as you are replying to youtube comments you must stink
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@Shadow66090 how many rabbits are required to break even on carrot consumption again?
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@randomname4726 i know plenty about the subject, im looking at it from a very technical level - as in what precisely would be required from a purely scientific standpoint to implement starlink. This is very different to analyzing the current trial equipment and making a judgment on whether its economically viable based on napkin maths by an academic professor who knows so little about internet provisioning and contention ratios he just makes up a figure of 1:10 rather than attempting to learn if thats even realistic or not (its not) or even what a contention ratio is - seriously anyone who has worked at an ISP would laugh at how TF has arrived at his conclusion... 2TB will only service 30,000 customers and thus starlink is busted? Bwahahaha. Even someone who only works in the enterprise network space would know how pathetic that guesstimate is. More to the point, its not even a technical justification its purely an economical one based on flawed assumptions of cost and delivery - GIGO is a common phrase in the technical world that applies to his calculations, google it if you've never heard of it before. Lastly, if you believe transmitting a "ping signal" to maintain a satellite connection (or similar radio wave based connection) requires the same level of power on the transmitter as sending a continual stream of data (emphasis on send, not recv) then your understanding of both radio signals and internet telecommunications is so severely lacking it's not even worth engaging with you on the subject. Do you think your mobile phone is continually transmitting a signal at full power to the tower every millisecond in order to maintain your phone service and be able to receive calls?
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@randomname4726 that is very big of you, much respect
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@Fourier21 i used to have a lot of respect for TF as these busted videos used to contain scientific justification and were decently researched, but videos such as this one have diminished that significantly. I've been a subscriber for years and from my observations it seems that Trump was the turning point and broke him - the first few cracks started to show when he was doing his rona viwus update videos. He would go on these long rants about Trump with no evidence or justification just purely speculation and opinion - its perfectly fine for him to despise Trump, Musk, etc everyone's entitled to their opinion but he used to be better as separating opinion from fact. Im not sure exactly why Musk suddenly then became a target too, not just from TF but others seem hell bent on discrediting and mocking him too, i have my suspicions but the point is its the same behavior and approach which is in stark contrast to his other "busted" videos. Ie poorly researched, bad assumptions and the same stale bad faith arguments in multiple videos - this one is a classic example, 15 minutes of recycled material, 10 minutes of napkin maths and then lastly 5 minutes on what likely triggered TF to make the video (the satellites getting in the way for astronomers) It wouldn't be so bad if he stuck to his strengths, which is physics and chemistry.. but the moment he starts to venture into topics such as economics, business and entrepreneurialism it highlights his weaknesses and reveals to me that TF isn't as knowledgeable as he potrays. These are very different worlds and why i think TF doesn't understand how people like Musk and Trump are successful - if you've worked your whole life as a professor doing science stuff in an academic environment it's a foreign concept that often "good, not perfect, is good enough" along with many other business decisions which often conflict with what is best scientifically. It's kind of a shame as i used to look forward to watching his busted videos, now they are regularly tedious to sit through and leave me thinking, "geez how petty". But hey, maybe it's all entirely a ruse and TF is fully aware of what he is doing and it's purely intentionally to game the algorithms and get more of those ad revenue dollars. Not that this would make it any better, but at least it makes more sense logically as to why he would make videos like these as opposed to him simply having a juvenile gripe and needing to vent. Completely agree on the cult remark, it's truely amazing and hilarious at the same time - confession projection comes to mind any time i see one of them personally attack someone of this rather than the substance of what was said.
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@Fourier21 it's like you can read my mind, could not agree more. Intellectual pride is a vice for many academics im afraid
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@fazergazer if the aim is melting ice, sure, maybe it'd require 100W.. and as i've already stated i'm not denying the current equipment is drawing 100W but that doesn't equate to 100W being the minimum necessary scientifically. I'd imagine it'll be higher that a regular uni directional antenna, as the dishes are using some cool beam bending science to adjust for the movement of the satellites rather than physically moving the dish. But anyone thinking that values from the a beta implementation can be used as absolutes doesn't understand the design & development cycle. You first focus on a functioning implementation or in lamens terms getting it to work, which often involves over compensating for any potential weak/failure points, then you focus on optimization and efficiency. The average joe may be fooled by TF's napkin maths but quite frankly he's smart enough to know what he's done here in the video is disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. You think the first cable tv satellite dishes where the same size as the ones today? Or take radio antennas on cars, you seen those little shark fins on the back of BMW's.. guess what they are. Or even headlights on cars, actually even simpler than that are LED lights.. 25 years ago white LEDs where barely a thing and most certainly not bright enough to light a room. Look where we are now... But yep, the energy required to melt ice is proof that starlink won't be economically viable for the portion of the population without access to highspeed broadband today. If only they knew about thermodynamics they wouldn't waste their money on starlink, what fools eh?
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5:30 " So sure i knew it was impossible, he knew it was impossible, but whatever.. we decided to give it a go.. afterall even if you fail ya still might discover something interesting" You may want to remember these words the next time you make a video about Elon Musk.
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@Crusnikusum How many human lives is Crimea worth exactly? All of them? They should keep fighting til they have no one left over some land?
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Finally a what happens video i can trust.. the only thing i'm still left pondering is the air/gas? It's only a tiny amount and much like the water i'm sure there is probably some sub-atomic process that'll take place but i wonder if it'd get dissolved or eventually bubble to the surface or... ?
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5:30 " So sure i knew it was impossible, he knew it was impossible, but whatever.. we decided to give it a go.. afterall even if you fail ya still might discover something interesting" Remember these words the next time he makes a video about Elon Musk.
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@JonMartinYXD "doing the impossible the right way" Oh im sorry i didnt realize that academic science professors had a stranglehold on how things should or shouldnt be done with respect to "the impossible". Your reply can be summarized as follows: Its not what Elon Musk is attempting to do that i don't like, it's the way in which he is attempting to do it that i have a problem with. He should be held to my own personal beliefs and standards if he wants to be taken seriously. Got it!
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@JonMartinYXD do you even know what a strawman is, please quote where i have built said strawman. Where can i find the department of standard common sense and decency? lol
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