Comments by "The Flint" (@theflint7405) on "The Grayzone"
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@HammyGiblets Nonsense, Jews had been living in that area for over 3000 years. Clearly you don't know anything about history. There have been several Iseali kingdoms and also Judean. In 70 AD the Jews revolted against the Roman occupation. About 1 milkion or more Jews were killed and the temple was destroyed. As an extra punishment for the Jews, the Romans renamed the land into Palestine, which is Latin for Philistea, an old arch enemy, which by then no longer existed. And the Philistines were Greek, not Arabs like modern day Palestinians. But still after the revolt Jews kept on living there, although many fled also. After the Romans came the Byzantines, Persian, several Arab muslims conquerers (they captured the land, so they weren't native), Crusaders, muslims conquered ir back and after that came the Ottoman empire who took over the region.
After the pogroms in Russia, some Jews fled to what now is Israel to join their brothers and sisters living there and they were allowed by the Ottomans. So, no invaders. They bought legally land of Arab landlords, the swamp and parts of the desert, which they turned into good farm land, where Jews and Arabs could work. But as always people got envious and Jews were attacked and killed several times.
After WWI the Ottomans lost the war and their empire and the Middle East become French and British mandates. After WWII Jews fled Europe and also came to the British mandate of Palestine and Syria. In 1947/1948 Jews they asked for a small piecs of land fro the Brits and a larger part of the Arab Palestinians. But all the Arabs in the region said "Hell no", while Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc had gotten independence, so 95% of the land was for Arabs, but they did not want Jews to have any land. So, they attacked them to drive them into the sea, so commit genocide, just after the holocaust and pograms a fea years before that. They said to the Palestinian Arabs come to our land as we fight the Jews and when we are done, you can return. 700.000 of them listened, but others stayed on their land.
Against all odds the Jews won from all these Arabs countries and now conquered more land, than they had asked for. And in war, when you are being attaccked and you win and drive the enemy back and capture their land, it is yours to keep.
So, now Palestinians were abroad and weren't allowed to return from these Arab countries, but the Palestinians who didn't flee, they could stay on their land and in their houses and became Israeli citizen with the same rights as the Jews. 21% of the Israeli population is Palestinian Arab today, which is 2 million.
But the Arab nations were so angry they lost from the Jews of all people (Jews are second class in their eyes), that they kicked out 840.000 Jeas from their own countries, from Turkey to Jordan, Egypt all the way to Morocco. They had to leave everything behind and still aren't allowed to visit the countries they or their parents or grandparents were kicked from.
The Jews in Iraq had been living there for 2500 years, twice as long as the Arabs. But no merci, they were kicked out anyway.
50% of the Jews in Israel are from the Middle East and North Africa, so they are native indeed!
After the war of 1948 Jordan occupied the Westbank and Egypt Gaza. Jordan waged several wars against the Palestinians and eventually kicked out 100.000s of them.
Israel has been threatened with genocide from 1948 onwards and they have been attacked several times. In 1967 the Arabs tried again to wipe Israel of the map and they failed again. But now Israel pushed back and captured the Westbank, Gaza, Sinaï and Golan. And in war, when you are attacked and win and capture land of the attacker it is yours to keep. They offered Palestinians to work in Israel, go to school and hospital and they could also become Israeli citizen. But they kept attacking the Jews and several times people have tried to come to a peace agreements, but every time the corrupt leaders of the Palestinians declined, even peace treaties where Israel would go back to the 1967 for most part.
Hamas says in their charter they don't want peace, don't want 2 states, they only want the Jews dead, Israel gone and to make greater Palestine into an islamlic caliphate. So, they want the same as ISIS. No democracy, no freedom of speech or religions, no nothing......
And in 2006 when Israel pulled back from Gaza, more than 70% voted for them and Hamas cancelled the elections right after that. So, in essencd it was a dictatorship, where opponents were even killed. And they kept attacking Israel with rockets and finally the attack on October 7 where they tortured, raped and killed 1200 people.
HAMAS KNEW israel would strike back hard, but they vowed they would repeat Oct 7 many times. And they also said it was worth their own people died in the process. And as always they use their people as human shields.
If October 7 had not happened, Israel would not have gone to war, simple as that.
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@e.t.finger7215 lets talk abiut justify.....Jews have been living in that area for over 3000 years. Clearly you don't know anything about history. There have been several Iseali kingdoms and also Judean. In 70 AD the Jews revolted against the Roman occupation. About 1 milkion or more Jews were killed and the temple was destroyed. As an extra punishment for the Jews, the Romans renamed the land into Palestine, which is Latin for Philistea, an old arch enemy, which by then no longer existed. And the Philistines were Greek, not Arabs like modern day Palestinians. But still after the revolt Jews kept on living there, although many fled also. After the Romans came the Byzantines, Persian, several Arab muslims conquerers (they captured the land, so they weren't native), Crusaders, muslims conquered ir back and after that came the Ottoman empire who took over the region.
After the pogroms in Russia, some Jews fled to what now is Israel to join their brothers and sisters living there and they were allowed by the Ottomans. So, no invaders. They bought legally land of Arab landlords, the swamp and parts of the desert, which they turned into good farm land, where Jews and Arabs could work. But as always people got envious and Jews were attacked and killed several times.
After WWI the Ottomans lost the war and their empire and the Middle East become French and British mandates. After WWII Jews fled Europe and also came to the British mandate of Palestine and Syria. In 1947/1948 Jews they asked for a small piecs of land fro the Brits and a larger part of the Arab Palestinians. But all the Arabs in the region said "Hell no", while Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc had gotten independence, so 95% of the land was for Arabs, but they did not want Jews to have any land. So, they attacked them to drive them into the sea, so commit genocide, just after the holocaust and pograms a fea years before that. They said to the Palestinian Arabs come to our land as we fight the Jews and when we are done, you can return. 700.000 of them listened, but others stayed on their land.
Against all odds the Jews won from all these Arabs countries and now conquered more land, than they had asked for. And in war, when you are being attaccked and you win and drive the enemy back and capture their land, it is yours to keep.
So, now Palestinians were abroad and weren't allowed to return from these Arab countries, but the Palestinians who didn't flee, they could stay on their land and in their houses and became Israeli citizen with the same rights as the Jews. 21% of the Israeli population is Palestinian Arab today, which is 2 million.
But the Arab nations were so angry they lost from the Jews of all people (Jews are second class in their eyes), that they kicked out 840.000 Jeas from their own countries, from Turkey to Jordan, Egypt all the way to Morocco. They had to leave everything behind and still aren't allowed to visit the countries they or their parents or grandparents were kicked from.
The Jews in Iraq had been living there for 2500 years, twice as long as the Arabs. But no merci, they were kicked out anyway.
50% of the Jews in Israel are from the Middle East and North Africa, so they are native indeed!
After the war of 1948 Jordan occupied the Westbank and Egypt Gaza. Jordan waged several wars against the Palestinians and eventually kicked out 100.000s of them.
Israel has been threatened with genocide from 1948 onwards and they have been attacked several times. In 1967 the Arabs tried again to wipe Israel of the map and they failed again. But now Israel pushed back and captured the Westbank, Gaza, Sinaï and Golan. And in war, when you are attacked and win and capture land of the attacker it is yours to keep. They offered Palestinians to work in Israel, go to school and hospital and they could also become Israeli citizen. But they kept attacking the Jews and several times people have tried to come to a peace agreements, but every time the corrupt leaders of the Palestinians declined, even peace treaties where Israel would go back to the 1967 for most part.
Hamas says in their charter they don't want peace, don't want 2 states, they only want the Jews dead, Israel gone and to make greater Palestine into an islamlic caliphate. So, they want the same as ISIS. No democracy, no freedom of speech or religions, no nothing......
And in 2006 when Israel pulled back from Gaza, more than 70% voted for them and Hamas cancelled the elections right after that. So, in essencd it was a dictatorship, where opponents were even killed. And they kept attacking Israel with rockets and finally the attack on October 7 where they tortured, raped and killed 1200 people.
HAMAS KNEW israel would strike back hard, but they vowed they would repeat Oct 7 many times. And they also said it was worth their own people died in the process. And as always they use their people as human shields.
If October 7 had not happened, Israel would not have gone to war, simple as that.
So, it isn't justified to hit back when 1200 people killed and many tortured and raped? And even babies killed? Then hiw should have Israel reacted if that isn't justified? The Jews have been persecuted for over 2000 years and the last 1900 years they didn't fight back and because of it they were kicked out of many countries, there money and properties stolen and killed by thr millions. And if Hamas say they want to kill all Jews, then Jews know one thing: if people say this, we better take it seriously, because in the past we didn't and 6 million of us died.
If Jews don't fight back, they are dead. Israel would be wiped from the map long ago if they laid down their weapons. But still they tried to make peace with the people who attacked them, but they declined the offer every time.
And why doesn't anyone protest against the wars in Syria, Yemen, Congo, Sudan? I have never seen anyone with a flag of these countries in their profile.
Yemen 400.000 deaths, from 200.000 children. Any protests? Nope...
Syria 800.000 deaths, 22 times as many as in Gaza. Any protests? Nope....
Congo 5 million deaths, 156 times as much as in Gaza. Anyone have a Congolese flag in their profile or asking for justice? Nope either...
Sudan, 100.000s of deaths and 8 million people displaced......you get the picture.....not a single protest, flag hoisted or burned.
Do these countries warn citizens to move when they are going to attack, like Israel does? Well, nope either....do they give aid, food, shelter to the people who hate them? Sigh....hell no...
Since October 7 2023 9 million people died or hunger, that is 285 times more people who died than in Gaza. Any protests? I don't even need to answer, but okay then: NOPE... How much money did you give to stop these people from dying? How often did you call for justice for them?
But people only are angry with Israel, protest every week, have Palestinian flags in their bios, attack Jews all over the world, burn Israeli flags, etc, etc.
Why is that?
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