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@MamadoJoachim Did you stand with ISIS also? Because HAMAS wants the same as ISIS, it is in their official documents. They don't want peace, they don't want 2 states, they want all Jews dead and then when that is done, then they want turn Israel into an islamic caliphate.
Their own words, not mine. And more than 70% of the population in Gaza voted for them. They killed many of their own people, even gays and people who spoke out against HAMAS.
And if you stand with people who are really suffering, then why have you never said anything about Congo where 5 million people have died in the civil war? Or the 400.000 in Yemen, from which 200.000 children, 700.000 in Syria, the 100.000s deaths in Sudan and the 8 million refugees ther also? The 100.000s Rhoninga people who got kicked out of Myamar and have nowhere to go? Or the 600.000 Ukrainians? Nope, nobody says free Yemen, free Sudan, free Syria, free Rhoninga. Weird isn't it?
People care when Israel fights back and wins, people don't care for Palestinians. Where were the protests when HAMAS cancelled elections more than 15 years ago? Or Fatah in the Westbank, the elections were cancelled there too by the Palestinian leaders. Why were there no protests when Kuwait kicked out 400.000 Palestinians after the Gulf war?
Only if Israel is involved, then suddenly people say they care for the oppressed. Not true, they just hate Jews. Because they don't care about any other war in the world.
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10s of millions have been spent worldwide on anti-Israel protests, on Palestiniaj flags, banners, protest boards, bullhorns, sound systems, organisation, etc.
Who paid for this? And if they cared so much for the Palestinians, why not donate that money to the Palestinians or on other people? 24.000 people die every day of hunger, so in just 2 days more people died of hunger than in 500 days in Gaza. Imagine how many children could have been saved from a brutal hunger death, if they spent that money of the protests on these children? Imagine instead of protesting they organised actions to wash cars to feed the hungry, 10s of millions could have been donated to the hungery......
But they do not care, they only care because the Jews are concerned. They do not care.........
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@RufusTFirefly6843 You mean if HAMAS had not attacked Israel and did not take hostages. Yes, if HAMAS had not attacked, Israel would not have hit back!
And if the Arabs didn't fool the Palestinian/Arabs in 1948 by attacking the Jews, because the Jews asked the British for a tiny piece of land. Then the Palestinians would have had their own land beside Israel from 1948 onwards. But the Arabs (who just got indepence from the British at the same time also after being being captured by the Ottomans for 100s of years) said hell no, Jews CANNOT have any land at all. And so they attacked the Jews, to drive them all into the sea (kill them all, just after the holocaust the muslims threatened the Jews with another genocide). They said to the Palestinians 'come to our lands, so we can wage war against the Jews and when we are done and the Jews gone, you can go back to your house and take the houses of the Jews too.
700.000 Palestinians listened to the lies of their muslim brethern from Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, etc and left. But against all odds the Jews won and weren't wiped of the face of the earth. And in laws of war, when you are being attacked and drive off the attackers and take their lands: it is yours to keep. So, now the Jews had more land, than where they asked for and Jordan and Egypt conquered the Gaza strip and Judea and Samara (they renamed it Westbank), where a lot of Palestinians lived.
But the Palestinians who didn't leave, were allowed to stay by the Jews and became Israeli citizen with the same rights as the Jews. Now 2 million Israeli's are Palestinians/Arabs. But the Arabs/muslims were so angry they lost of the Jews of all people, that they kicked out 840.000 Jews from their own countries, from Syria, Iraq, Jordan to Egypt, Libya, Algiers, Morocco, etc. They had to leave everything behind! But they didn't attack anyone, nor did the Jews attack the Palestinians or Arabs in 1948.
So, if you want to blame someone, blame the Arabs for the situation. Jews were attacked in the Middle East from the late 19th century all the way up to now. If HAMAS had not attacked Israel and raped, murdered, beheaded and set on fire 1200 people in Israel, the IDF would have done nothing at all.
So, blame the right people.
But about 35.000 - 40.000 Gazans have died, while almost 12 million people died of hunger since 7 October 2023, that is between 296 and 338 times as much as have died in Gaza.
How many people/children of those millions of children who died of hunger did you try safe from starving? Did you safe any at all? Or you rather bought a flag, which helped absolutely nobody or maybe another Iphone of the newest Nike's or did you choose to go on holiday, while you could have used that money to stop children from starving?
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@elijahfreeman5299 You must live in a very safe and peaceful neighbourhood that you can say such things. And is that custom that you put words in people's mouths and then judge them for what you made up they said? I never said it wasn't a big deal when people die, never. So stop lying!
The IDF did their utmost best to stop civilians from dying and getting hurt, that you lie about that, that is on you. But okay. HAMAS attacked Israel, but now you blame the people who fight back. The IDF threw flyers out of planes to warn people they were about to attack and sending text messages to all phones. Tell me, which army does that after their people were raped, beheaded and set on fire, even babies? Tell me, please. You seem to know.
Hamas uses civilians as human shields, even women and children and if they run away, they shoot them, yes they shoot them! So, what is Israel to do, when Hamas promised to repeat Oct 7 again and again and again? Please tell me, you seems to know a lot about war!
Have you read the charter of Hamas? Here is a direct quotation, they think the end of times will come, when all Jews are dead.
Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
So, please again, tell me what could Israel have dons differently? If someone says they want to kill all the Jews, Jews no ONE THING, TO TAKS THEM SERIOUSLY!
But you think they just targer civilians, because why exactly, because you believe the propaganda of Hamas, that is why.
And again, what have you don't, beside complain about people dying in a war you don't understand and you blame the IDF, while the cause was Hamas. Or do you blame the British and Americans also for the German deaths in WWII? Or the fight against ISIS, people died then too.
And if you are so concerned for people, what have you done to stop people from dying. Did you give money, did you keep your old Iphone 6s just like me, so you could help children in Africa? Or you just virtue signal on internet? Because complaining is easy, but actually helping others is a whole different story.
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@brahma_the_daughter_eater No, but all you people can blame is Israel, you people don’t care about other wars and conflicts.
But lets talk about apartheid states. The Jews have been treated badly in Europe, but also in the islamic world. After the holocaust some Jews fled to the British mandate of Palestine, where Jews have been living for over 3000 years. There never has been an independent Palestine. The last 2000 years it was annexed by several other peoples, the Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Arab muslims from 700 AD who conquered the place, then the Crusaders, muslims took it back again and later came the Ottomans, who were defeated in World War 1 and so the British took over. The name Palestine was given to the land as punishment for the Jewish revolt in 70AD. 1 million Jews were killed by the Romas and as extra punishment they renamed the land Palestine, which is Latin for Philistea (land of the Philistines). The Philistines were long gone and the Palestinians of today aren’t their decendents, they are Arabs. Philistines were Greeks.
After the Holocaust Jews fled to what is now Israel to join their people there. They knew one thing after the pogroms and Holocaust, if we don't get a piece of land for ourselves, we will be gone when the next anti-semite enters the stage.
In 1948 they asked for a tiny piece of land for them and a bigger piece for the Palestinians (they didn't call themselves Palestinians yet, that started in the 1960's). The British and French gave independence to several peoples in the Middle East. Syria was formed, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt. The Arabs got by far the most land. But the Jews didn't get anything, while they were discriminated against all over the muslim world.
But instead of granting the Jews a tiny piece of land, the Arabs said Hell No! And attacked the Jews, to drive them all into the sea. So, just after the holocaust, they were threatened with another genocide. The Arabs asked the Palestinians to come to their countries, so their armies could wipe out the Jews. 700.000 listened, but others stayed. But against all odds the Jews won from all these much larger and stronger nations. And in war, when you are attacked and you win and capture land of the attackers, it is yours to keep.
So, thanks to the Arabs who attacked the Jews, they now got a bigger piece of land. The remaing Palestinians became Israeli citizens, with the same rights. 21% of the population is Palestinian today with the same rights, except they don't have to serve in the army, Jews do. They can join if they want though and some do. But the Arabs were so angry they lost the war from the Jews of all people (second class in their eyes), that they kicked out 840.000 native Jews from their own countries. Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya all the way to Morocco. They had to leave everything behind, while Jews had been living in Iraq for 2500 years, twice as long as the Arabs. No mercy!
So, if we are talking about apartheid states against the Jews, the Middle East and North Africa was full of them. Thanks to these states the Jews got a bigger piece of land and the Jewish population grew with hundreds of thousands Jewish refugees. Nobody ever talks about them. Israeli Jews cannot enter many islamic countries, talking about apartheid states until today!
The Jews were kicked out from these nations, Israel did not kick out those 700.000 Palestinians. And they were not allowed to return, because they started the war and the other Arabs did not want them to return either.
Jordan occupied the Westbank and Egypt Gaza. After Israel was attacked again in 1967 by the Arab world, they took the Sinaï, Gaza and the Westbank. They made peace with Egypt and gave back the Sinaï and also wanted to give Gaza back, but Egypt did not want Gaza anymore and Jordan didn't want the Westbank. Jordan even waged several wars against the Palestinians and kicked out 100.000s of them.
Later after the Golf war, when the Palestinian leaders sided with Sadam Hussain of Iraq, Kuwait kicked out 400.000 Palestinians also.
So, talk about apartheid states, there are many!
And all the peace deals, to give Palestinians their own nation, were all declined by their corrupt leaders. And talking about an apartheid state. In Gaza oponents of HAMAS were killed and tortured, they even drove around with the corpses behind their cars as a warning. Israel left the Westbank and Gaza almost 20 years ago and HAMAS and Fatah never held an election after the first one. To it wasn't a democracy either, but a dictatorship.
HAMAS always said they don't want peace with Israel, they don't want 2 states, no they want 2 things: all Jews dead and make Israel into an islamic caliphate under sharia law. You know what IS had also.
If that would ever happened, you get an apartheid state big time. No democracy, death penalities for a lot of crimes, no womens rights, certainly nog lhgbt rights and of course no freedom of speech.
It is all in their chartes, their own words, not mine. Israel isn't perfect, but everybody has the same right. Palestinians can study, work and go to hospital in Israel. They provided electricity and water. The Palestinians got the most aid per head of all the world. And what did HAMAS do with these many billions? They dug tunnels, built bunkers and bought rockets, bombs, guns, etc. And don’t forget over 70% of Gaza voted for Hamas!
The Jews never fought back and they got persecuted and blamed for everything everywhere. They have been kicked oit of Spain, Portugal, England, Turkey, Arab nations, nazis persecuted them and in Eastern Europe there were the pogroms. And almost all islamic nations have been saying they want to wipe the Jews of the map since 1948. And last year Hamas attacked them and brutally tortured and killed young people, babies and even elderly. If Hamas had not attacked then Israel would not have attacked. Hamas knew Israel would hit back hard and it would cause much suffering among their people. You know what the leaders of hamas said in Spring: the suffering and dead Palestinians were worth it. Hamas fired over 20.000 rockets to Israel, Hezbollah 7000.
If HezbolIah and hamas put down their weapons tomorrows, there will be peace. If Irael puts down its weapons, the Jews will be wiped out. It is as simple as that.
Again, if Hamas had not attacked, this war would have never happened. Hamas sacrificed their own people. And Israel had no choice to strike back, because for 2000 years they have been persecuted and killed everywhere. If they didn’t defend themselves and attack, the next attack from Hamas and their allies would be so much bigger.
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@RufusTFirefly6843 You must live in a very safe and peaceful neighbourhood that you can say such things. And is that custom that you put words in people's mouths and then judge them for what you made up they said? I never said it wasn't a big deal when people die, never. So stop lying! I just asked you what you did yourself to stop people from dying, but of course you failed to answer that. So, I guess you don't do much. That is odd if you are so concerned for people. So, again what have you done beside complain on internet? Did you give money or did you keep your old Iphone 6s just like me, so you could help more children in Africa instead of buying a new phone? Or are you just virtue signalling on internet? Because complaining is easy, but actually helping others is a whole different story. But you seem more concerned for people who die in Gaza than the 12 million who die of hunger and people you could actually have helped.
Your false accusations against me are an admission of who YOU are. Yes, who I am, I help children in Africa. That is the difference between you and I it looks.
The IDF did their utmost best to stop civilians from dying and getting hurt, that you lie about that, that is on you. But okay. HAMAS attacked Israel, but now you blame the people who fight back. The IDF throws flyers out of planes to warn people they were about to attack and sending text messages to all phones. Tell me, which army does that after their people were raped, beheaded and set on fire, even babies? Tell me, please, you seem to know. Hamas uses civilians as human shields, even women and children and if they run away, they shoot them, yes they shoot them! So, what is Israel to do, when Hamas promised to repeat Oct 7 again and again and again? Please tell me, you seems to know a lot about war!
Have you read the charter of Hamas? Here is a direct quotation, they think the end of times will come, when all Jews are dead.
"Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
So, please again, tell me what could Israel have done differently? If someone says they want to kill all the Jews, Jews know ONE THING: TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY! But you think they just target civilians. Tell me why they did? There is no reason to go for civilians, because the whole world is against them, the more people die, the more people hate the Jews all over the world. So, that is just nonsense. But you just choose to believe Hamas propaganda over Israel. Bit odd, that is for sure.
And again, what have you done, besides complaining about people dying in a war you don't understand and you blame the IDF, while the cause of this war was Hamas. Or do you blame the British and Americans also for the German deaths in WWII or for the fact that civilians died in the fight against ISIS?
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@AbHumBolein First of all who says they stole land? If they did why did they live in a tiny flat with 2 families? Pretty bad thieves if you ask me. And why don't you blame you own people for stealing lands, houses, companies of the Jews? You know, when 800.000 Jews who got kicked out of muslim countries first in 1948. And why did the Palestines reject every single peace accord? And how come 21% of Israel's population are Palestinians, if the Jews stole all their land?
The Arabs made Israel grow, bcs they kicked out 800.000 Jews who had been living there for 2000 years or even longer. They could not go anywhere else, so they went to Israel. So, if you blame someone, blame them. And the Arabs said to the Arabs living in what is Israel now, flee to our countries, so then we will wipe the Jews of the face of the earth and when we win and the Jews are all dead, you can go back to your houses. But the Arab nations lost the war they started themselves and thanks to them, many Palestinians now could not return. While in 1948 the Jews offered to share the land or make 2 countries. The Arahs rejected and instead started a war.
So, Israel grew thanks to the Arabs.
What puzzles me is that muslims never protests against the war in Yemen, where 400.000 people died from which 200.000 children, or the war in Syria with 800.000 deaths or Sudan, where 8 people had to flee. Or the land stolen from Armenians and Assyrians. They don't protest for the Rhoninga muslims who got kicked out of Myamar. But they always only protest against one nation: Israel.
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@yunuscurrie3410 You cannot correlate islam and violence? Then where did all the christians, yedzidi, druse, Jews, hindus, buddhist all go? That is simply whitewashing what you do. It is not the western colonists who make the muslims attack the beforemention groups.. Yes the colonial powers did horrible things, but before the colonial powers there were the Ottomans and others. Do you know how islam spread? Look up the attack on Egypt and the mass killing and the forced conversians. In which of all the muslim nation there is democracy and freedom of religion and speech? Even in Tunesia, a so called Liberal nation, if someone leaves islam, they cannot rent a house anymore or cannot work for the government. Same in Egypt, Iran, Morocco, Yemem, Pakistan, Aghanistan, etc, etc.
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@ME-ot2ce So, you choose to believe a few soldiers who speak out, people you don't know, but the majority of the soldiers are bad people and lie? So, please tell what should Israel do? 1200 people killed and 80% of the Gazans were happy about it and the Gazans promised to do it again.
So, how do you treat these people who don't release the hostages and keep firing rockets? The war n Gaza was over if they handed over the hostages and stopped sending rockets to Israel. But they choose not to, so they sacrifice their own people that way.
Because Israel is winning the war, doesn't mean they are the bad ones. Hamas knew Israel would hit back hard, but still they chose to attack Israel, while they knew many would get killed by Israel. So, who are the bad guys? Hamas, bcs they sacrificed their own people. If you are a weak person, do you attack a group of body builders, who not only beat you up but all your friends if you do? Of course not, why would you. But Hamas just did that, bcs they wanted Israel to strike back so they can play the victim.
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@ME-ot2ce You talk about the oppressed, but clearly know little about the history. The Jews have been the people who have been kicked out countries the most. In 70AD the Romans killed 1,5 millions Jews, tore the temple down and many others fled the country, still some remained and their have been Jews in Israel for 3300 years. The Jews were oppressed by the Romans, Catholics and by the muslims in Nothern Africa and Middle East. Jews were kicked out of Spain, England, Portugal and many other countries. About 120 years ago they were oppressed in eastern Europe, where many were killed and others had to flee. Then in Europe they were oppressed even more and 6 million were killed. Then after WWII they fled to the British mandate of Palestine, where they asked the Arabs to form one country with them or 2 seperate states, one for the Jews and one for the Arabs (in 1948 they were not called Palestinians yet, that was introduced in the 1960's). But the Arabs said no and we will wipe you all out. So, many of them just survived the holocaust and now the Arabs want to murder them all again. So, the Arabs nations said to the Palestinians, come to our country, so we can wage war against the Jews and wipe them of the face of the earth. Then against all odds the Jews won and these Palestinians who chose the other side were now abroad. But there were also Arabs who remained and 21% van Israels population are Arabs, who have the same rights and can study, work start companies, they can become judges or proscuters and even politicians. After the 1948 war, the islamic nations were so angry that theu kicked out 800.000 Jews, who had to leave all their possesions behind and had to leave overnight. These people didn't have anything to do with Israel and have been living there for over 2000 years.
From 1948 there have been many attemps to get peace between the Palestinians in Gaza and Westbank, but ALL peaces treaties were declined by the Palestinians, all of them. HAMAS says in their charter we don't want peace, we don't want 2 states, all we want is to wipe out Israel and kill all the Jews.
I don't say Israel doesn't make mistakes, they do kf course. But you cannot talk to people who want you all dead, like HAMAS. And 70-80% voted for them and more tha 70% agreed with the Oct 7th attack according to a Palestinian survey.
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