Comments by "The Flint" (@theflint7405) on "Johnny Harris got a few things wrong about Israel (and Lebanon and Iran)" video.
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@MamadoJoachim Did you stand with ISIS also? Because HAMAS wants the same as ISIS, it is in their official documents. They don't want peace, they don't want 2 states, they want all Jews dead and then when that is done, then they want turn Israel into an islamic caliphate.
Their own words, not mine. And more than 70% of the population in Gaza voted for them. They killed many of their own people, even gays and people who spoke out against HAMAS.
And if you stand with people who are really suffering, then why have you never said anything about Congo where 5 million people have died in the civil war? Or the 400.000 in Yemen, from which 200.000 children, 700.000 in Syria, the 100.000s deaths in Sudan and the 8 million refugees ther also? The 100.000s Rhoninga people who got kicked out of Myamar and have nowhere to go? Or the 600.000 Ukrainians? Nope, nobody says free Yemen, free Sudan, free Syria, free Rhoninga. Weird isn't it?
People care when Israel fights back and wins, people don't care for Palestinians. Where were the protests when HAMAS cancelled elections more than 15 years ago? Or Fatah in the Westbank, the elections were cancelled there too by the Palestinian leaders. Why were there no protests when Kuwait kicked out 400.000 Palestinians after the Gulf war?
Only if Israel is involved, then suddenly people say they care for the oppressed. Not true, they just hate Jews. Because they don't care about any other war in the world.
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@brahma_the_daughter_eater No, but all you people can blame is Israel, you people don’t care about other wars and conflicts.
But lets talk about apartheid states. The Jews have been treated badly in Europe, but also in the islamic world. After the holocaust some Jews fled to the British mandate of Palestine, where Jews have been living for over 3000 years. There never has been an independent Palestine. The last 2000 years it was annexed by several other peoples, the Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Arab muslims from 700 AD who conquered the place, then the Crusaders, muslims took it back again and later came the Ottomans, who were defeated in World War 1 and so the British took over. The name Palestine was given to the land as punishment for the Jewish revolt in 70AD. 1 million Jews were killed by the Romas and as extra punishment they renamed the land Palestine, which is Latin for Philistea (land of the Philistines). The Philistines were long gone and the Palestinians of today aren’t their decendents, they are Arabs. Philistines were Greeks.
After the Holocaust Jews fled to what is now Israel to join their people there. They knew one thing after the pogroms and Holocaust, if we don't get a piece of land for ourselves, we will be gone when the next anti-semite enters the stage.
In 1948 they asked for a tiny piece of land for them and a bigger piece for the Palestinians (they didn't call themselves Palestinians yet, that started in the 1960's). The British and French gave independence to several peoples in the Middle East. Syria was formed, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt. The Arabs got by far the most land. But the Jews didn't get anything, while they were discriminated against all over the muslim world.
But instead of granting the Jews a tiny piece of land, the Arabs said Hell No! And attacked the Jews, to drive them all into the sea. So, just after the holocaust, they were threatened with another genocide. The Arabs asked the Palestinians to come to their countries, so their armies could wipe out the Jews. 700.000 listened, but others stayed. But against all odds the Jews won from all these much larger and stronger nations. And in war, when you are attacked and you win and capture land of the attackers, it is yours to keep.
So, thanks to the Arabs who attacked the Jews, they now got a bigger piece of land. The remaing Palestinians became Israeli citizens, with the same rights. 21% of the population is Palestinian today with the same rights, except they don't have to serve in the army, Jews do. They can join if they want though and some do. But the Arabs were so angry they lost the war from the Jews of all people (second class in their eyes), that they kicked out 840.000 native Jews from their own countries. Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya all the way to Morocco. They had to leave everything behind, while Jews had been living in Iraq for 2500 years, twice as long as the Arabs. No mercy!
So, if we are talking about apartheid states against the Jews, the Middle East and North Africa was full of them. Thanks to these states the Jews got a bigger piece of land and the Jewish population grew with hundreds of thousands Jewish refugees. Nobody ever talks about them. Israeli Jews cannot enter many islamic countries, talking about apartheid states until today!
The Jews were kicked out from these nations, Israel did not kick out those 700.000 Palestinians. And they were not allowed to return, because they started the war and the other Arabs did not want them to return either.
Jordan occupied the Westbank and Egypt Gaza. After Israel was attacked again in 1967 by the Arab world, they took the Sinaï, Gaza and the Westbank. They made peace with Egypt and gave back the Sinaï and also wanted to give Gaza back, but Egypt did not want Gaza anymore and Jordan didn't want the Westbank. Jordan even waged several wars against the Palestinians and kicked out 100.000s of them.
Later after the Golf war, when the Palestinian leaders sided with Sadam Hussain of Iraq, Kuwait kicked out 400.000 Palestinians also.
So, talk about apartheid states, there are many!
And all the peace deals, to give Palestinians their own nation, were all declined by their corrupt leaders. And talking about an apartheid state. In Gaza oponents of HAMAS were killed and tortured, they even drove around with the corpses behind their cars as a warning. Israel left the Westbank and Gaza almost 20 years ago and HAMAS and Fatah never held an election after the first one. To it wasn't a democracy either, but a dictatorship.
HAMAS always said they don't want peace with Israel, they don't want 2 states, no they want 2 things: all Jews dead and make Israel into an islamic caliphate under sharia law. You know what IS had also.
If that would ever happened, you get an apartheid state big time. No democracy, death penalities for a lot of crimes, no womens rights, certainly nog lhgbt rights and of course no freedom of speech.
It is all in their chartes, their own words, not mine. Israel isn't perfect, but everybody has the same right. Palestinians can study, work and go to hospital in Israel. They provided electricity and water. The Palestinians got the most aid per head of all the world. And what did HAMAS do with these many billions? They dug tunnels, built bunkers and bought rockets, bombs, guns, etc. And don’t forget over 70% of Gaza voted for Hamas!
The Jews never fought back and they got persecuted and blamed for everything everywhere. They have been kicked oit of Spain, Portugal, England, Turkey, Arab nations, nazis persecuted them and in Eastern Europe there were the pogroms. And almost all islamic nations have been saying they want to wipe the Jews of the map since 1948. And last year Hamas attacked them and brutally tortured and killed young people, babies and even elderly. If Hamas had not attacked then Israel would not have attacked. Hamas knew Israel would hit back hard and it would cause much suffering among their people. You know what the leaders of hamas said in Spring: the suffering and dead Palestinians were worth it. Hamas fired over 20.000 rockets to Israel, Hezbollah 7000.
If HezbolIah and hamas put down their weapons tomorrows, there will be peace. If Irael puts down its weapons, the Jews will be wiped out. It is as simple as that.
Again, if Hamas had not attacked, this war would have never happened. Hamas sacrificed their own people. And Israel had no choice to strike back, because for 2000 years they have been persecuted and killed everywhere. If they didn’t defend themselves and attack, the next attack from Hamas and their allies would be so much bigger.
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