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Comments by "aspinx" (@aspinx) on "Russia issues 'surrender or die' order for Ukrainian troops in Mariupol | DW News" video.
It was "OR". They've promised that if they lay down weapons they'll spare their lives.
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The weapon makers are sending you "big thanks" for the voluntary support of their now prosperous business.
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They just offered them to surrender and declared certain timeframe for cease fire and procedure, so they can do so safely. The rest are just speculations. Btw, how did that statute work for Ukraine when they tortured and killed Russian POWs filming the whole process?
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@Desktopia Are you referring to UNSC resolution 2202 that Ukraine failed to implement and publicly stated on many occasions that they aren't going to implement it?
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@Quotenwagnerianer It's not a promise to "not kill". It's an offer of a certain timeframe for cease fire and a procedure, so they can surrender safely, without being afraid of being killed. Read the source, not what msm wants you to think.
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@JH-pv6rd What it before or after Ukraine increased shelling of Donbas to 2014 levels and bragger about receiving 10 cargo planes a day loaded with weapons?
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@Matys1975 Did Russia start the war in Syria, I though they ended it and isis that was about to capture it no longer exists.
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Unfortunately, Z needs them dead. Like with those guys from snake island that he awarded posthumously as true heroes who stood till the last breath. Turned out they all surrendered and we sent home, as promised.
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You don't really expect US to sanction itself, right? Like it didn't happen after war crimes in Iraq (clearly unveiled by wistleblowers). Were those responsible for false "Iraq WMD" punished? Did you anyone pay for destruction of Libya and Syria? What makes you think it will happen now?
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Please send some love to Yemen too. 400 000 already died in that US-backed war and nobody still cares.
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@Villain Potato You can thank the media for that. Looks like they did a good job by "telling public what they should think".
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Ukraine governments needs this "sacrifice", so they can play victim card, and beg for more sanctions and weapons. All while completely rejecting negotiations or making unrealistic demands. It worked out pretty well, as EU will buy more expensive energy, (t the cost of their own economy) and increase military spending (which there were reluctant to do).
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Z guy is an actor. He plays on emotions, telling the audience want they want to hear right now. He never stood for this words ever since he won in elections.
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Of corse the won't. They also won't mention that Azov are nazies. "Army" sounds much better.
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@matthewkinder6910 Unfortunately, it looks like EU leadership is not independent or just suicidal. This war makes no sense for anyone in Europe. All beneficiaries are US and UK.
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It's not even modern. So far it was only some old stuff, so these other guys can order a newer one.
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Maybe when this Z-guy finally agrees to stop killing own his people for "wrong think" or "wrong language"?
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What do you expect from msm? Precise and unbiased reporting? Duh.
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Nobody cared when Yugoslavia was occupied and broken into pieces 20 years ago. Even today when Iraq and Syria are still occupied by foreign army - nobody cares. I'm wondering why it's totally ok to occupy some countries and not ok with others...
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@CantHandleThisCanYa It won't happen if goons who took over Ukraine won't move tanks and jets against their own people. Or if they implement UNSC approved resolution 2202, which Ukraine signed. Instead, they stalled it for years, using this time to beef up their military force and threatening with military solution, using EU/US as a cover.
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They won't. It's much better to stay in town and use civilians are a shield from artillery and air strikes.
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So some guys can sell more weapons and possibly destroy one of their enemies? They've already earned 3 billions in just 2 months.
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They only send forces if there are oil fields or other resources to grab... and get away with it.
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Already earned 3 billion on this, with way more to come. Like Albright used to say "totally worth it."
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They are busy counting that $3b they've already made on this mess. Wouldn't happen without all the media support you've just consumed.
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That's exactly what happened just a month ago - Russia made Ukraine feel what Ukraine was doing to its own citizens in Donbas for the last 8 years. Escalation is not the way. Violence has to stop.
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There was only one case when nukes were used in war. It was dropped at civilians and not by Russians. Just FYI.
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@Thor_Asgard_ You seems to condemn the whole nation for things it never did, as if they are about to do to... when it makes no sense. What point does it make to nuke small, outnumbered and surrounded force running out of ammo?
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@dhalikias Nothing can justify genocide. I'm just stating that those who are responsible will get away with it, just like they got away before. Unfortunately.
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Because public is not ready yet. They'll sure do it, once there is more outrage.
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Your example, is strangely precise.. given that Azov has same insignia as German 2nd SS Panzer Division and shares same "views" as Germany of that time.
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It worth to spend some time to research the issue from all sides, before spreading msm lies to your children. The truth will come out eventually, just like with WMDs in Iraq.
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Also, 3 billion dollars richer only from weapon sales.
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Of course it will win. Just without the nazies and all their hate of "subhumans".
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The Marvel movie is another window. People are making big money here.
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@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 Did he do anything to you personally? Why so much hatred?
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It makes zero sense to launch nuke at a bunch of outnumbered, outgunned and hungry defenders.
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That was the idea from beginning - long war to make Russia "bleed". Earning money from weapon sales. Made 3 billions already.
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@JoeyBlogs007 No, that's what Ukrainian do. They even shoot videos when they execute captured POWs and say that they won't take prisoners.
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Maybe when people get enough and get rid of Brandon, Bojo and the rest of the clique, profiting from this like bandits.
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Of course it was "or". DW is very biased on this issue and report almost the exact opposite of reality.
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First of all, you should stop trusting the media. Check facts from all sides, you'll learn a lot.
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@Chpow01 State media is always biased. They can't say anything that goes against the official "narrative". There are no independent journalists in news agencies. They are very much dependent on whoever finance them. As far as I remember journalists in Russia weren't shutdown. There were just forced to disclose their foreign financing sources and to be accountable if whatever they "report" turns to be outright lie. So they left, because they couldn't do what their handlers needed and still get away with it. Which is why it's important to check multiple sources over time, to learn them better and understand their bias.
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Still trust to what media says? After all they've done?
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Nobody died in Kherson. All thanks should go to Azov for turning a beatiful city into battlefield and a mass-grave of civilians killed by their sniper rifles.
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Wake up, western countries did everything to escalate to this. US already earned $3 billion in weapon sales.
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You don't think that media always tell truth, do you?
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@johnnyvanbeerschoten9360 The comment I've replied to suggests otherwise, unfortunately.
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"Boatsman boys" are responsible for that "butchery" and they were Ukrainian. Google it. Love and peace to everyone.
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It was "OR". DW is just creating public outrage. Business as usual.
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"Slava" is just a translation from the version of this greeting, which is "Hail".
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They just need to accept they won't kill they own people for "wrong think" or "wrong language" to end this war. it's that simple.
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Bush, Blair, Biden and Killary sure didn't. Albright did recently, at the age of 84. May those 500 000 kids that she killed in Yogoslavia rest in peace.
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As Brits have said after the last round of negotiations in Turkey, they won't let it stop.
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About 4 years ago. Another US-led campaign.
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Z guy is an actor and quite possible a cokehead. He's good at reading from a teleprompter though.
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Yeah, let's help them to turn more of their cities into rubble and sell more weapons. Fight till the last Ukranian.
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There are no Ukrainians left there - only foreign mercenaries and nazies.
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Exactly. So they can declare them as heroes who stood till the last breath. Like they tried with snake island defenders earlier, but it failed once in turned out they just surrendered.
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