Comments by "Christian Dauz" (@christiandauz3742) on "What if Ancient Greece Industrialized?" video.

  1. You mean after the A.I. revolution. Religion would be mostly dead by then
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  2. Uh no, humanity has just leapfrogged over 2.2k years ahead The world would be divided between Greece, India, Persia, China and Carthage
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  3. I wonder how different the world would be if an Ancient Sumerian City-State achieve the Industrial Revolution?
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  4.  @yonathanrakau1783  Uh, religion is dying out in the most civilized parts of the world today That process has started much earlier in this Alternate Timeline. The Greeks and later the Carthaginians, Persians, Indians and Chinese would start pumping out invention after invention rapidly changing humanity Eventually, slavery would have disappeared around 200 BCE. Poverty is much less problematic Cordite and dynamite plus mass-produce Plate armor ensures that the Barbarians and Horsemen Nomads are fucked. The civilized nations would start expanding like crazy against their tribal neighbors The world would be divided between the Greeks, Carthage, Persia, India and China. Humanity would be much more mixed and have a lot of Gene-Editing so no dumb Hillbilly from Mississippi The Atheist Ancients then colonize space and achieve 22nd century tech before 10 CE
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  5. Doubt Christianity would exist. Judaism and all the other Ancient Religions die out Atheism would be dominant by 100 BC
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  6.  @muslimcrusader3085  Steel plate armor, steel shields plus steel crossbows mean that when exchanging arrow volleys the Greeks would inflict much more losses on the Nomads than the other way around idiot Besides, Cordite is one of many alternatives for gunpowder. Napalm and TNT would slaughter the stupid nomads Railroads, trains, airships and steamboats vastly increase the speed of Industrialized armies
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  7. Had the Bronze Age Collapse never happened it would have happened much faster
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  8.  @yonathanrakau1783  The Greeks have wheels and wheat-grinders at this point. Wouldn't take long to for them to implement rolling sheets Biggest problem they would have is creating furnaces hot enough to produce brass, iron and steel
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  9.  @adriancampos8640  Then there would be a power struggle/class warfare between Priests vs Middle-class
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  10.  @board-3659  The Scythians move from place to place just like the Huns, Turks, Hungarians and Mongols. That alone makes it EXTREMELY difficult just to start Industrialization By the time they completely settled somewhere the Greeks would have built railroads to mobilize their Steel-wearing Legions to conquer them Industrialization offers Quality and Quantity advantages to nations that do so Greek armies now have much better equipment, much larger in numbers and can move much faster thanks to the Steam Engine Mass-production allows the Greeks to mass-deploy Rapid-fire Crossbows using High-quality steel bolts. They'll massacre the Celts or Scythians at range The few Celts and Scythian horseriders that get into melee then are slaughtered by Greek Spearmen with Steel Shields in melee! That's before they invent Gunpowder, Dynamite and other forms of Explosives which they will soon
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  11.  @twoscarabsintheswarm9055  Ever since the Industrial Revolution of the 1800s there has been a trend towards Irreligion Having the Industrial Revolution happen in 450 BCE would actually multiply that trend. Humans would be going from Spears to AK-47s in just a few hundred years! Writing by hand to Internet! Prayer does shit to disease. Science exterminates diseases like Smallpox Technology would be seen as the solution and future, not religion Christianity, Islam and Sikhism wouldn't exist as humanity would be very Atheistic by 100 BCE. Also immortal by then
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  12. Or the Tang or Qin Dynasties
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  13. By the time the Colonists made contact with Native Americans vaccines and other medical inventions would have been commonplace The Native Americans wouldn't die of disease. In fact their population would explode while it is assimilated by the Colonial Powers
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  14.  @adriancampos8640  The video isn't 100% right. An Industrialized Ancient Greece would curbstomp the Celts and Horse nomads Persia would quickly catch up on Industrialization due to having the best administration India and China would eventually Industrialize as well
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  15.  @christopherlee7334  But the Industrial Revolution is only ~200 years old In this Alternate Timeline, the IR is ~2.3k years old! Judaism, especially Orthodox versions, would clash heavily with the Industrialized world Dynamite blast away Celt and Steppe Nomads' will to fight Butterfly effect prevents Christianity, Islam and Sikhism By 100 CE, humans would have 22nd century technology and social attitudes
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  16. Atheism becomes the majority very early on
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  17. Mechanized and Long-range warfare. The Celts and Nomads are fucked
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  18. The Celts and Nomads would have lost to the Five Industrialized Superpowers Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China
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  19. Persia would quickly Industrialized as well then expand into Asia and Eastern Europe Greece would be a Superpower sharing the world with Carthagre, Persia, India and China
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  20.  @yonathanrakau1783  I doubt Full-Plate Armor would be used but the Industrualized nations would have mass produced Mail-Plate Hybrid Armor for their armies They would use state, temple and private money to fund technological advances, especially those that provide industrious and military benefits The world would be divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China The Native Americans don't die of disease as better medicine and healthcare causes every group to have a bigger population Judaism is fucked as Secular, Liberal/Progressive, Humanist and Atheistic societies become the norm Christianity would just be a fringe religion. A very small minority would have religion in this Alternate Timeline and Christianity would be the bottom of the Pyramid The Greeks would be the first to put a man on the Moon. Persia responds by putting the first colony on the Moon It is basically Expanse but 100 CE. The Belters would be Native Americans, Polynesians, South Africans, Scandinavians, Siberians and Brits/Irish!
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  21. @hunter christensen They are literally the biggest and strongest nations back then, without Industrialization. Not that many nations back then Tribes and Nomads will be assimilated quickly. Naked Celts and Steppe Nomads are no match against Heavily Armored Cars with Guns Tamir Rice won't die in this Alternate Timeline because Christianity and Amerika don't exist
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  22. @hunter christensen The Five Superpowers would gobble up all the tribes/nomads before they would become settled then centralized then industrialized The tribes of this era are less numerous and less organized. They won't survive a Greek Tercio with Steel. Horse Archers would take severe losses firing at Heavily Armored Greek Crossbowmen behind shields and barricades Railroads, Cars, Telegraphs and Ironclads ensure that new territory is quickly brought under control and be efficient in production Religion will decline because there are less poor people and less stupid people. Power of religious institutions also decline due to people understanding more of the world People are getting smarter (eating less toxic stuff with greater access to nutrition does that) Evolution would be fact over 2k years earlier as well as Germ Theory. Why would anyone worship a Religion that objects to Science, promotes slavery, degrades women and molest children? The Geneva Convention happens several centuries earlier. Embassies would be in each Superpower The Five Superpowers won't go to war but instead trade with each other. Compete with each other in Science, Economics and Art Ancient Greeks, Phoenicians, Persians/Egyptians/Arabs, Indians and East Asians/Chinese would compete in Space Colonization Earth won't be overpopulated or have a damaged environment Tamir Rice doesn't have to be worried about being shot for being black
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  23.  @krinkovakwarfare  At this point Egypt is part of Persia which quickly Industrialized and expands east and north Religion declines as a greater understanding of reality destroys the credibility of the old gods
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  24.  @krinkovakwarfare  I was takling about the theocratic part of Ancient societies. That disappears with Industrialization and competition Egypt is still part of Persia. The Persians would be right behind the Greeks when it comes to innovation. There would be a technological and knowledge race between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China. Atheism, Secularism, Capitalism and Socialism would dominate these Ancient Superpowers These Ancient civilizations would drop anything that slows them down including Religion. To lag behind in this Arms race would mean losing their prestige, culture, economy and independence The Five Superpowers invest a lot in space colonization as well as stopping old age
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  25. I suggest Eric Flint's Alexander Inheritance series
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  26.  @yonathanrakau1783  The Sumerians were not united at this point. Each city was ruled by a King. Industrialization woukd give one city a huge economic and military advantage over the others They did have slaves but not a lot Assyrians and Babylonians are descendants of the Sumerians/Akkadians. Not even the same century or millenia Industrialization would allow the mass-production of Brass, Iron and Steel. Railroads make trading cheaper and faster for the Sumerians, Egyptians and Indus Valley. They would start expanding their territories and build new towns Unification would have happen much earlier. The Sumerians would start investing in any potential inventions so would their two neighbors. Imagine the Victorian period (1800s) in 3000 BCE By 2900 BCE, the Ancients would have 20th century technology. Slavery is gone and civilization spreads throughout most of Europe, Asia and Africa. Religion is in decline AND the Bronze Age Collapse never happens Native Americans don't die from disease. They have a population boom Much better timeline than ours
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  27. Keep in mind that the Persians would industrialize right next to Greece. They would make vast improvements to the Steam Engine
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  28.  @christopherlee7334  The only reason Atheism isn't majority now is due to the very heavy persecution and how new the Industrial Revolution is In this Alternate Earth, Atheism would have a bigger presence by 100 CE
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  29. Doubt it. In this scenario the world would be divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China The Five Superpowers abandon religion, discover immortality and colonize space
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  30. Greeks, Phoenicians, Persuans, Indians and Chinese space colonists land in the Moon, Mars, Pluto, etc
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  31. But Persia would still be around and much more powerful expanding into Asia and Eastern Europe with their Industrial might India and China would soon Industrialized as well The world would be divided between four Superpowers. Greece, Persia, India and China
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  32. So the Sumerians? They are the 1st civilization
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  33. By the time there are 5 Billion humans, they would have colonized the Moon
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  34. The world would be divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China
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  35. Industrialization of Ancient Greece would have decimated religion
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  36.  @schakiarligonde1736  I doubt it. There is a causation link between Technology/Knowledge and Secularization/Irreligion Having the Industrial Revolution happen more than TWO THOUSAND years earlier would destroy belief in fairy tales Native Americans, Polynesians and Africans are much better off in this Alternate Timeline
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  37. This video is inaccurate in some parts: -Persia would quickly Industrialized to catch up with Greece. They would be much more powerful and start expanding into Asia and Eastern Europe -The Celts and Nomads are no match against an Industrialized Greece. The Greeks would have a much larger and better equipped army which would beat the crap out of them -Gunpowder and its alternatives would be invented and used much earlier. So would TNT and Napalm -By the time Carthage makes contact with the Native Americans Vaccines would have been used for at least 50 years. Indian population explodes and mix-breeds a lot with the Ancient Empires -The world would be divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China -Religion quickly dies. Modern Racism never exists (started in 1500 AD) and Atheism/Secularism becomes the norm by 100 BC -By 100 CE, humans colonize much of the Milky Way Galaxy. No one dies of old age
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  38.  @Newbmann  Serious analysis of the video This Modern world only started Industrialization in the 1800s Having the Industrial Revolution happen twenty-three THOUSAND YEARS EARLIER would drastically change history!
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  39. Israel is ripping itself apart between the Secular Left and Conservative Right Carthage has a lot of dark-skin people and is based on trade and colonization. Natives and mixbreeds would make great soldiers to defend Carthage from Greece and Persia Modern Racism only existed by 1500 CE India and China would be very super-powerful and pro-liberal in this Alternate Timeline
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  40. Carthage is Phoenician that has absorbed Greek and African culture as well I disagree with the video. The Celts and the Eastern Nomads would have been conquered by the Greeks and Persians Carthage's colonization of the New World causes a Native population boom but also a lot of mixing with the colonists. Greece would also colonize and interbreed with the locals Atheism becomes dominant by 100 CE. It would be like the Expanse without the Aliens
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  41. The BAC set humanity back by 500 years. Imagine having 21st century tech in the 16th century
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  42.  @krinkovakwarfare  He wouldn't exist due to the Butterfly Effect. Humans wouod have colonized the Andromeda Galaxy by the 17th century
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  43.  @ominosentenzioso5100  Athens takes over primitive Sparta with its Ironclad navy and Steel weapons
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  44.  @sneezing1957  The old religions would die out. Others wouldn't exist in the first place Atheism will become dominant Having the Ancient world undergo the Industrial Revolution accelerates it to the Victorian Era The 1st Atheist member of Parliament is from the Victorian Era. Germ theory, Darwin, etc
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  45. @hunter christensen Not just more technology but also more knowledge. Much lower levels of poverty and much happier people Trust in religious institutions would dwindle with each scandal or refusal to change, especiall if its about children. Spotlight The Ancient world is now in its own version Victorian period. Secularism is taking hold in the various societies The Ancient religions are very easily disproven Doubt a WW1 styled war would happen. Just border conflicts and proxy wars when diplomacy fails
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  46. @hunter christensen I doubt the Five Superpowers would have a war like that Secularism doesn't always come from war. Knowledge and Technology contribute to it as well, not always but still a significant factor The Internet spread knowledge that lead many to be Atheists today. That effect will also happen in this Alternate Timeline Gene-Enhancement Immortality and Space Exploration would also promote Secularism Christianity, Islam, Shinto and Sikhism won't exist due to Butterfly
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  47. @hunter christensen Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China The modern age is one with the highest number and percentage of Atheists Having the Industrial Revolution happen over two thousand years earlier brings the Modern Age The Abrahamic Child-Molesting faiths won't exist. So would the Hindu's Caste-system. So is religious slavery like the KKK
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  48. @hunter christensen The KKK came from the Confederacy which came from the Southern Baptist Convention, pro-slavert anti-black anti-women Christian churches Gunpowder would be invented much earlier as well as Muskets. Pike and Crossbow plus bigger numbers better organization and better metal (Cast Iron is inferior to High Quality Steel) Basically Caesar's conquest of Gaul on steroids. Greek fire would be invented earlier as well Industrializing those Ancient civilizations would cause them to expand rapidly through peace and war Not that many centralized settled societies back then. Tribes and Nomads can't do Industrialization unless they undergo major changes Carthage and Greek colonists have Vaccines, Guns and Cars when they meet the Native Americans. The Mayans and other peoples first become client states then annexed
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  49. @hunter christensen Neither are you Fascist. Next thing your gonna say Christianity had nothing to do with both World Wars and the Holocaust (Even though the vast majority of murderous soldiers believed in that fairy tale god) Industrialization is one of the worst things to happen to religion. The Internet is even worse. With the eradication of poverty in this Alternate Timeline 2k years ago only the retarded minority would worship the child-molesting religions Gene-Editing cures Cancer and allows people to live forever as well as improve Intelligence. Three things that goes against religion
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  50.  White Star Alliance  Yes they would. The state and private individuals would invest in tech companies that would perform Research and Development
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  51.  White Star Alliance  Steam Engine which leads to mechanized parts leading to steam boats/railroads. Indirectly helps Camera as the idea of small gears and parts is commonplace
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  52.  White Star Alliance  Wouldn't an Industrial Revolution over 2000 years earlier cause every invention to be invented much earlier and upgraded much faster? Inventing something earlier in one field indirectly causes something else to be invented earlier due to the Butterfly effect and Chaos Theory Heck, rockets would be invented much earlier as people would be inspired by steamboats. Same with Windmills then Helicopters. Airships would be a thing. The Tribes and Steppe Nomads are screwed
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  53.  @gamingchamp6728  Uh, Tagalog won't exist as a language. China would control most of Asia/Siberia and Oceania India would be the smallest of the Five powers but have the 2nd largest population China would be the most powerful, most numerous, most technogically advanced Superpower China would dominate Space colonization Greece would be 4th place alongside Carthage. Persia would be the second most powerful/important Superpower
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  54.  @oldkid8811  Judaism would have died out by 100 BCE in this Alternate Timeline. Slavery is nonexistent while Poverty is much rarer Christianity would be a fringe group The Industrial Revolution does cause a huge increase in Atheism and Secularism overtime Had the Ancient Sumerians Industrialized they would have become Atheists by 2500 BCE!
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  55. The Industrialized Greeks would conquer the Celts and Nomads using Steel Armor, Steel Pikes and Steel Crossbows Industrialization is a very big deal
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  56. -Persia wouldn't collapse become much more powerful in this Alternate Timeline. Persia, Greece, Carthage, India and China would divide the entire world between them -Mass-priduction of High-Quality Steel Partial-Plate Armor, Steel Pikes, Steel Shields, Steel Crossbows would allow the large armies of civilized nations to easily crush the weak, disorganized barbarian tribes and nomadic hordes (Pike and Crossbows) -Gunpowder or an Alternative will be invented and utilized much earlier -Railroads and Airships vastly improve trade and allow widespread conquests of new lands -Religion starts dying out much earlier as Secularization takes place. Atheism grows like crazy -Misogyny and Slavery quickly disappear -Carthage brings Modern Medicine to the Native Americans. The native populations of America and Oceania explode in number. Lots of multiracial people in just a few generations -Democratic and Progressive ideas would be introduced like clockwork
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  57. Are there substitutes for Gunpowder that are 'easier' to invent or discover? The Athenians would have invented Dynamite and Pennicilin at some point It is not impossible for Alt-Athens to have Macedonian and Roman military reforms to beat its enemies The Athenian soldiers would all have high-quality plate armor and use Pike-Crossbow tactics to easily beat the Nomads and Gauls The Persians are pro-tech and would have tried to catch up with the Athenians Dynamite would be used on Guns and Artillery ensuring Athenian and Carthage domination of the world. China, Persia and India would have certainly catch up to them The Native Americans would have a population boom thanks to better medicine The world would be divided between the Greeks, Carthaginians, Persians, Indians and Chinese
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  58. This scenario needs to be redone. The blatant racism against Persia and ignorance of Chemistry is enraging
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  59.  @taptiotrevizo9415  Well when that many people believe in harmful Bronze Age fairy tales then yeah The Industrialization of Athens would instant be copied by Persia and Carthage. India and China would soon follow Industrialization allows the Greeks to do many things: -Support government and private funding of Science. Technology progresses insanely faster in every field -Mass produce soldiers and high-quality equipment. High-quality steel offers more protection and less weight compared to bronze and medium-quality cast iron. Industrialized Greece can pump out more soldiers than countlesd Barbarian tribes combined -Railroads and other improvements on transportation allows Greece and other Superpowers to conquer and control large territories -Greek colonists in the New World explode in population they also intermingle with the Natives and massive increase their numbers The world would be divided between 5 Atheist Superpowers by 100 BCE. Carthage, Greece, Persia, India and China. Space colonization and Biological Immortality ensure the dominance of Secularism and Science!!!
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  60. What if Ancient Egypt Industrialized around 1800 BCE? They had slaves but only freemen worked on the pyramids and other important buildings. Labor-improving techniques were poineered by them
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  61. What if Ancient Egypt Industrialized around 1900 BCE?
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  62. Iron tools existed before the Bronze Age Collapse, just not in high numbers
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  63. Atheism would be 99.9%. Old age doesn't happen
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  64.  @yonathanrakau1783  Those events happened long after 3100 BCE. There was no large slave population and the Sumerian cities were competing against each other The Akkadians wouldn't have destroyed Industrialization but accelerate it by unifying the cities under a central government that would provide financial support to these projects Raided my ass, the Gupta didn't arrive until the late-Akkadian era. That was the first nomad raid and invasion in history. Mass produce Plate Armor and crossbows would deal with them Heck by 2700 Industrialization would have been fully completed. The Akkadians would have never given birth to Sargon. The Gupta, Assyrians and Babylonians would have never existed The Sumerians then replace the Ancient Greeks in history as they start colonizing all over. New cities with factories powered by steam would be throughout the Medditerreanean, Middle East and North Africa Religion goes into decline as more and more of humanity stops becoming migrating tribes but instead live in urban cities
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  65. Bullshit, the Akkadians are the same as Sumerians. They spoke the same language Akkad itself isn't even the southern most Sumerian city Industrialization allows a nation to have a larger and better equipped army Steel Armor and Steel Crossbows would decimate the Nomads at range. Steel Pikes would skewer them in close combat Religion dies while Atheism soars
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  66. The Butterfly Effect ensures Khan never exists. China conquers the world. Atheism becomes the norm Humans colonize space and invent Immortality
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  67. Spanish Tercio. Pike and Crossbow then Pike and Shot. You know what comes next
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  68. The Celts and Nomads would have been conquered by the Industrialized Greeks
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  69. I disagree on some aspects of this video: -Macedonian and Roman ideas would have been introduced by someome else, maybe earlier as science and industrialization would be implemented into the military -Gunpowder would be made earlier as there would be greater progress in the field of Chemistry Steel Crossbows + Metal Shields would decimate tribal and nomadic enemies Religion would go into decline The Persian Empire would immediately start copying Greek innovations ASAP like how Japan underwent Industrialization/Modernization Many of the things you've said about the Persians are complete bullcrap! -The Elamites are the distant ancestors of the Persians. They have lived in the same area since Ancient Sumeria! -Persians are not anti-trade. They developed roads and faster communication techniques that greatly benefitted trade in the Empire! -Persia would have a Prime Minister. It could also become like Britain, a Constitional Monarchy with a Parliament to take care of things -Persian satraps, commanders and advisors would be more efficient and faster at their jobs thanks to the Industrial Revolution. Semaphore Telegraphs, Printing Press, Paper, Steam Trains, etc would allow orders to be accomplished much faster @Whatifalthist you need to do a revised sequel or have 'What if the Ancient Sumerians Industrialized?'
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  70. The world would be 99.9% Atheist divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China Humans colonize space in 100 BCE
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  71.  @christopherlee7334  Shinto is weird. So is Japan Though Japanese culture and ethnicity won't exist here
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  72.  @amehak1922  China would Industrialize and annex Japan so Bushido won't exist Greek-Capitalist culture would be a much bigger influence in this scenario The Mayans don't exist, neither do the Huns
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  73. Guess you've given up The Greeks, Persians, Carthage, India and China Industrialize then take over the world Religion's failures are shown over Two thousand years earlier while Science cures Smallpox in 200 BCE
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  74. There wouldn't be any Nukes only Nuclear Power Plants Ancient people would be Atheists and colonize space
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  75. Christianity wouldn't exist. Ancient Civilizations become Atheists There is a reason why religious people are the #1 enemies of time-travelers in books
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  76.  @glacierlegion9439  The Qin or Chu from the Spring and Autumn period. Competition between the various states incentivizes Industrialization
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  77.  @glacierlegion9439  What if a Time-travel started the Industrial Revolution with the earlu Akkadian Empire? Sargon has plenty of reasons to support Industrialization. The guy built his capitol, Akkad, from a small town. Conquered all the Sumerian cities
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  78.  @glacierlegion9439  Uh, Sargon was able to conquer ALL of the Sumerian cities by the middle-point of his rule Akkad could parade and mobilize 5k soldiers at one point Bronze was available. Sumerians got most of their Iron through trade Industrial Revolution allows the Akkadian Empire to mine Bronze and Iron at an unparalled rate. Also have higher-quality Steel Crossbows would be very dangerous 4k years ago Railroads and Steam-trains allow fast transportation of goods and people. Better administration and control of the Empire Spark a technological boom as well as a population one. Secularization would grow
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  79.  @Real_Tower_Pizza  Not really. Five powers and not super-Authoritarian
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  80. TNT, Cordite and Napalm would be invented much earlier, same with Gunpowder Primitive Celts and Horse Archers would be overwhelmed by Legions of Heavily Armored Greek Pikemen and Crossbows Railroads and Steamboats would greatly change society
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  81. Persia, Carthage, India and China would also Industrialize
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  82. He wouldn't exist in this Alternate Timeline. Macedonian would have been annexed by the Greeks
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  83. The Celts and Nomads would have been conquered and assimilated by the Industrial Superpowers
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  84. What if one of the major cities (not sure if to call it a city-state) of Ancient Sumeria Industrialize? (POD 2600 BC) Can you do time-travel what-ifs that don't include Paradoxes? THUMBS UP SO HE CAN SEE THIS!
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  85. Aztecs and Mayans wouldn't exist. Their ancestors did Phoenicians start intermingling with the Natives
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  86.  @Jose-xf7kq  There wouldn't be a death toll at all. The Phoenicians simply assimilate the tribes into their colonies. The Aztecs don't exist until the 1300s. Mayans happened in 100 AD 25% of the marriages would be interracial Carthage itself is very multi-racial. Celts, Levantine/Phoenician, Greek and African
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  87.  @Jose-xf7kq  Wouldn't Celtic and Mesoamerican tribes voluntarily join Carthage for multiple reasons? The Phoenicians would build many cities and factories which Mesoamericans could settle in. Tribes can't grow and sustain big populations so immigration becomes a thing The world would be divided between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China. 5 Superpowers that are trying to economically dominate one another They would colonize space
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  88.  @Jose-xf7kq  Um, the Natives would buy the Vaccines and Medicine or learn how to make their own
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  89. Atheism would flourish millenia earlier. Technologically-advanced settled civilizations are prone to Irreligiousity
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  90. The Celts and Nomads would have been conquered by Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China
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  91. More like introduced and learn much earlier Secularism becomes dominant. Slavery goes extinct.
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  92. I call BS in Persia not catching up with Greece. They had technological and social change within their society and had a national mail/courier system! The world would be divided between Carthage, Greece, Persia, India and China Vaccines and better healthcare means Native Americans actually explode in population whem meeting the European colonists Secular Humanism Atheism would dominate politics, culture and government Cordit would be invented much earlier to replace gunpowder. Greek Tercios decimate the Celts and Nomads without any issues
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  93.  @clarenceorozco5300  Not a bot, just pointing out facts An Industrial Revolution back then in Ancient times leads to a much earlier Secularization of Humanity
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  94. It woukd quickly decline as Atheism/Secularism/Humanism takes root and grows
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  95. Doubt it. The world would be carved up between Greece, Carthage, Persia, India and China
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  96. Judaism would go into a massive decline like all the other Old Religions. New Religions like Christianity and Islam wouldn't exist The Hellenic Era has Machineguns, Cars, Dynamite and Vaccines. Secularization would be intense By 0 CE, humans would have colonized space and invent immortality. Atheism would be the norm
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  97.  @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts  Butterfly effect means anyone that historically existed after POD like Einstein do not exist in this Alternate Timeline/Earth/Universe Alexander and Julius won' exist Judaism would heavily decrease in followers and would be radically different by 200 BCE Immigration would be much higher as Industrialized nations can support far more people
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  98.  @dogecheemsburbger7102  Racism is heavily caused by Abrahamic religions and the Slave trade. Industrialization destroys both institutions Romans wouldn't care if Julius Caesar was black. Neither would the Persians if Cyrus the Great was Chinese The Persian Empire is a multi-ethnic state. They don't give a shit as long as the people pay their taxes and don't cause trouble Carthage is similar due to blending Greek, Phoenician and North African culture and peoples Since Industrialized Ancient Greece replaces Macedonia and Rome they would eventually be a multi-ethnic empire The Five Empires (Carthage, Greece, Persia, India and China) would simply assimilate other peoples Instead of smallpox and slavery, Native Americans get population explosion, biological immortality and space colonization A lot of cultures and languages would not exist in this Alternate Timeline, at least not in the same way Though it is MUCH BETTER than ours (Remembering 9/11 and 1/6) By the year 2021 CE, this Alternate Humanity would have colonized entire Galaxies! No one dies of old age, poverty or sickness!!!
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  99.  @Newbmann  Even if they did not share it for free the fact that the Phoenicians are immunized means that they don't spread disease There are practical reasons to freely share medicine with the Natives. Local labor force for the new factories plus trade partner and later buyer of Phoenician goods Phoenicians aren't racist unlike the Racist White Colonists. They would have no problem assimilating the Natives Humanitarianism is as old time. We wouldn't have made it to the Classical Age without the small acts of kindness along the way Atheism would be dominant by 100 BC. People live forever and most humans live outside of Earth
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  100. More like Cyberpunk 77 BCE Space colonization and Immortality
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  101. Atheism becomes the majority. Humans become immortal and colonize space
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  102. The Industrualized Greeks and Persians would curbstomp the Celts and Nomads Native American population doesn't die from disease but instead explodes
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  103.  @gamingchamp6728  Uh, there won't be nuclear war The Five Superpowers don't need or want to go to war with each other Corporate Espionage would be more prevalent
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  104.  @brandoncheever1897  Russia has been Christian for 900 years before the Soviet Union. Soviets DID NOT try to wipe out religion Christianity and other religions don't exist in this alternate scenario Judaism would be seen as barbaric due to its pro-slavery views
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  105.  @brandoncheever1897  Science and Technology is much more prominent in this world Imagine living from 1830-1900 Now imagine living from 400 BCE to 330 BCE in this What If The Internet would exist by 250 BCE Better economy, more knowledge and better life expentancy all contribute to Secularization. That trend is accelerated in this What If Video Games and Comics will be invented in 300 BCE resulting in more Secularization
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  106.  @brandoncheever1897  The Catholic church has done plenty of anti-religious things Clearly your head is so far up your ass you can't see how Irreligious modern society is compared to every other time period
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  107. No, 1/6 proved why Religion and Conservatism deserve to be wiped out In this Alternate Timeline, Anti-vaxxers wouldn't exist
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  108.  @calebnemrow2677  That pales in comparison to the growth of Atheists everywhere, even in Saudi Arabia Iceland and Sweden don't let their cops kill white and black kids like the US Alabama and Mississippi are not only the poorest states they have the lowest life expentancy and highest teen pregnancy. Those pedophile priests are getting away with it thanks to Republikkkans
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  109.  @board-3659  How many times did Roy Moore molest you as a kid?
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  110.  @Revan-eb1wb  Religion is dying and for good riddance Wished the Industrial Revolution did happen during the early-Bronze Age so that genocidial religion dies out in 2700 BCE!!!
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  111.  @lamaripiazza5226  Yes it would you dumb fuck! The Industrial Revolution started the decline of fucking religion!!! UK had its first openly-atheist politician in the 1800s! There is a fucking causation of better economy and increase in knowledge causing religion to fucking decline!!!!! The Tribes and Horse Nomads would be forced to Indistrialize as well or be curbstomped Dynamite and other explosives were invented because of the IR When technology does things 'gods' can't religion dies Slavery is the cornerstone of religion. Once that dies religions start to die as well
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  112. Slavery would disappear much earlier in this Alternate Timeline
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  113. Eventually someone would discover gunpowder, TNT and other chemicals of war The Scythians, Xiognu and Alanians are fucked. Winchester rifles and Gatling guns are going to render steppe nomads obselete This world is so much better compared to ours
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  114. Mississippi is both religious and a shithole
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  115.  @board-3659  This scenario assumes hypothetically they did There is this field of Science call Chemistry There is this thing called Experimentation
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  116.  @board-3659  Hypothetical scenario so it comes with the package It's insane how much of a game changer Industrialization is Had the Ancient Egyptians Industrialized they would have dominated Earth AND Outer Space
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  117. Atheism would replace the Old Gods. The greater understanding of everything and human prosperity leads to it
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  118. The Ancient Egyptians take over most or all of the world. Immortality and space colonization by 2300 BCE
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  119. Followed by Machineguns, planes, Spaceships and Gene-Editing
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