Comments by "Dylan Burston" (@dylanburston7453) on "carwow"
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@lunaticfringe896 The point is to show the difference between a insane super car and a insane hyper car. We all knew who was going to win, and that it wasnt going to be close.
Its the same reason early MMA had 600lbs guys going up against 140lbs guys. Because why the hell not? Theres a drag race between the Cadillac Vseries r (their Le mans hypercar),a 296, a 911 turbo s and something else (a 720/50 if im remembering correctly)
Regarding the price, i wasnt clear, but i was talking about the 296 compared to the turbo s, not the SF90. The price differnce beterrn the 296 and the 911 is "only" 60k, which given the reasons i listed for the price differnce, which makes them direct competitions. Nobodys choosing between a SF90 and a 911 if they can afford the sf90, but they would factor in the 296.
And the rimac is a bit of a one trick pony. Its a whale. Its slower round the Nurburgring than the 296, the 488 pista, the GT2 rs.
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@SealofPerfection You need to do your research "buddy".
All the metal components are all poured into sand casts, and then said components are put together by hand. The only thing computerised is a robot that puts the lubricant in the cylinder, and a final test done by a robot (after its been checked by a human) Everything else is done with nothing more than a drill and a couple of spanners
They are the only car manufacturer that still has a forge.
The Ferrari engine is truly hand made, not just a big lego set where other than screwing it together all the work was done by a machine.
Short of shooting the cow for leather and digging ore out of the ground, everything is done by Ferrari, and most of that is done by hand.
The engines at Ferrari are another level of Handmade, which everywhere but Ferrari is now extinct, and the car as a whole is much more handmade than any vette.
And in terms of Nat asp v8s, Chevy has only just started putting out Ferrari numbers from 15-20 years ago, and with an extra 1-2 litres of displacement.
The Zo6, even with an extra %60 more displacement and two more cylinders is still less power than the 296s v6 by itself, disregarding the hybrid.
Corvette have moved away from a indirect competition with the mid- rear engine spors/ super car market into direct competition, and almost every company makes a car as good if not better than the c8, that are in direct competition.
Every single Ferrari is closer to the rivals next step up car in their range (eg 296 is much closer in terms of speed and handling to a 675Lt )
The 296 is offering figures (and the technology) of the hybrid hyper car trilogy for a quarter of the price.
The c8 offers absolutely nothing.
It offers less than the c7, which was unique, looked better.
Now, Corvette just make a cheap looking car with the performance of a 2 generation old Ferrari
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@SealofPerfection Oh, the corvette is reliable is it? then why in consumer reports is it in the top 10 least reliable cars.
And i mentioned that GM founded the foundry (at least in the comment i was writing before i clicked off). Its still outscoursing to a different factory, its still more automated than the Ferrari system.
Who gives a shit if its American made?
American cars are shite, its why you dont see a singe one outside of america in any category of car, other than a couple of mustangs, the odd vete, and some inbred halfwit with a massive F150.
99% of the performance? its a good 25% down on power and at least one girthy gentleman heavier.
Upgrade it? Why would i need (or want) to upgrade a 100k + sports car?
They are not 2 different markets. Not for the ZO6. They are both in the same class of car, and they know they will be competing for sales. The c7 corvette was never in the same market, but the c8 is, so they are being compared.
Yes, a Ferrari should outrun a Vette. But your missing the point. The Ferrari it lost to is 10 years old, based on a 15 year old car, regardless of cost, especially when that car is not some hypercar, but the "baby" (admittedly speciale) Ferrari of the range.
Corvette charge nearly the same as the European manufactures, besides Ferrari, for a car thats a good 10 years behind the times, and offers nothing unique for a global market.
The C8 vette lost the individuality and put it in direct competition with Ferrari, Lambo and Porsche.
I think the c8s alright. But the fact corvette is using a 15 year old Ferrari as its benchmark shows you just how far behind it really is.
Id rather have - and could for the price- said 15 year old Ferrari 2nd hand than the vette.
It looks better, sounds better, is iconic, it has a moustache.
I just dont think a car being on par with a 15 year old car in the same class is impressive.
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@rnosibZ57 Why would they do that? The revulto can barley beat a 296, which uses the same engine, but making only 800 hp.
The revulto gets trounced by the sf90, a 5 year old car that the f80 is above in its place in the range.
The 488 had no characteristic, cirtainly less than the 296 that replaced it, and nowhere near the performance.
The reasons you dont like the v6 is because of the exhaust, not the engine itself. Also, your numberist.
The flagship Ferrari has had a every engine under the sun, that reflected the companies motosport philosophy at the time.
This v6 has won the big 3 endurance races (24 hours of le mans overall x2, 24 hour nurburgring overall, 24 hour daytona class win, and it would have won the 24 hours of spa if not for the pitlane exit being closed for its final pitstop)
It sounds really good from the cockpit, even when stock because thats where most of the noise goes. It sounds really good full stop when the exaust is upgraded.
Its more powerful, more efficient, lighter and smaller, and the only negative is that it doest have as many cylinders.
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@ Yes, it does. Thats why they all have the BNR code .
The R33 is called BCNR33, thats because when it was produced, not all Attesa 4wd had HICAS, and the C was to differentiate that it did, which was not necessary with the 32 and the 34, as all Attesa cars had HICAS when they were in production. So, as all GTR R33s had HICAS, their chassis code was BCNR33, but its still a BNR. The reason the R33 GTR is longer and wider is becasue unlike the other 2, the coupe also used the Sedan chassis (wears the R32 and R34 had shortened ones for the Coupe)
All a platform is is the very, very basic underpinnings,like the floor, engine compartment and underbody reinforcement.
It is a very, very, very loose term, unlike Chassis.
Most platforms usually have fixed variables, and some unfixed ones.
Depending on what is and isnt a fixed variable, 2 cars could be massively different and still share a platform.
A car could only share a engine compartment and wheel centre line, and still be considered the same platform.
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