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I can understand why this video might seem convincing, as it tries to present a clear historical narrative. But the truth is, the evidence actually shows that its main premise is impossible.
There is no genetic evidence that connects modern Palestinian Arabs to ancient Israelites in a way that would make them the same people. Genetics actually shows that Palestinians have the same basic genetic profile as other Levantine Arabs, not ancient Hebrews.
Historically, there is also no record of a mass conversion of Jews to Islam in this region. In fact, Jewish communities are known to have kept their separate identity throughout the centuries.
Culturally and linguistically, the Palestinians have the same language, traditions, and customs as other Arabs from the surrounding regions, not ancient Israelites.
So, while the video might sound convincing at first, it just doesn't fit the actual facts.
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You're just making up numbers here. Ashkenazi Jews are not 15% Levantine. They are a distinct Levantine ethnic group with some European admixture, but the majority of their genetic ancestry traces back to the ancient Israelites, with clear continuity to the Levant. In fact, 100% Ashkenazi Jewish DNA is common, reflecting the remarkable cohesiveness of this community over centuries.
Meanwhile, Palestinian DNA shows they are genetically indistinguishable from other Arabs in the region, with a high prevalence of the J haplogroup, indicating origins in the Arabian Peninsula. So, if you’re trying to make a point about purity, you should know that no population on earth is genetically “pure.” But at least Ashkenazi Jews have a clear, traceable ethnic lineage, which is more than can be said for most.
And there's nothing to be ashamed of in the fact that even in Europe, under centuries of persecution, people still chose to convert to Judaism and intermarry. That's not something to laugh at – it's actually a point of pride, reflecting the enduring appeal of Jewish identity and culture.
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Actually, the Lebanese, Jews, and Palestinians are not all the same people. Jews have a long, well-documented history in Israel going back thousands of years, with a distinct culture, language (Hebrew), and religion (Judaism) that set them apart from their neighbors. No one in their right mind calls Jews Arabs. Jews might be distantly related to Arabs, but they are clearly a separate people, even if some of them speak Arabic. In fact, many Jews would find it offensive to be called Arabs, as it's simply not accurate.
Most Palestinians, on the other hand, have family names like al-Masri (from Egypt), al-Baghdadi (from Iraq), or al-Turki (from Turkey), showing they came from various parts of the Arab world over the centuries. Even Yasser Arafat's family came from Arabia, not Canaan.
Lebanese people are mostly Arab too, as they speak Arabic and share much of their culture with the broader Arab world. While some ancient Canaanite DNA might be mixed in, that doesn't make them the same as the ancient Canaanites. And this Canaanite DNA isn't unique to Lebanon or Israel. Geneticists have found it spread throughout the Levant, the Arabian Peninsula, Iran, and even parts of Europe. This just shows that the ancient Canaanites were a widely spread population about 4,000 years ago, not some isolated group tied specifically to modern Lebanon or Israel.
So, calling them Arabs isn't a mistake – it's a recognition of their real, documented history.
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@History.Culture.projects-y5m This is completely preposterous and ignores all historical evidence. The nisba argument simply doesn’t work at all on this scale. We’re not talking about a handful of isolated cases – the vast majority of Palestinian family names are like this. They point directly to places outside Israel, like al-Masri (Egyptian), al-Baghdadi (from Baghdad), and al-Turki (Turkish). These names literally mean that these families came from those places. That’s why they have those names – to indicate their origins. That’s exactly what we find with the Palestinians. Since they came from all over the place, they have surnames reflecting those origins.
Trying to wave this away by saying these names don’t really mean what they clearly mean is just ridiculous. It would be like saying that if you had an entire group of Native Americans with names like “Italian,” “British,” or “Chinese,” it’s just because maybe some ancestor did business there or studied there once. Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds? Names like al-Masri, al-Baghdadi, and al-Turki are not just random nicknames – they are clear, straightforward indicators of origin.
And this isn’t just a theory. Even Hamas officials have openly admitted it. In 2012, Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hammad said, “Half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis.” And this is just one example. Another PLO leader, Zuheir Mohsen, openly admitted in a 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw that the “Palestinian” identity was simply a political strategy to fight Zionism. He said, “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel.” Are you really trying to say you know their history better than they do?
And then you finish with that dig about people claiming a birthright to Israel because they have some ancestor from 2,000 years ago. That’s literally the opposite of the truth. The Jewish people never stopped identifying as the people of Israel. That’s literally their identity. The very name “Jew” comes from “Judea,” the ancient name of their land. They were known as the exiled people of Israel for thousands of years, and they never stopped praying, hoping, and fighting to return to their homeland.
Meanwhile, the Arabs you’re talking about have always identified as Arabs, with their own history and culture rooted in the Arabian Peninsula. You’re trying to flip this around and pretend that the people with clear Arabian names, culture, language, and traditions are the real natives, while the people who never stopped identifying as Israelites are the foreigners. That’s just desperate historical revisionism, and no one is going to buy it.
And even if for some reason these names didn’t exist, even if they actually had native-sounding names, we would still know where they’re from based on everything else – their language, their culture, their own traditions, their entire history. You’re trying to pretend that this is all some vast conspiracy theory, but the simplest, most obvious explanation is the one you keep ignoring: they’re Arabs, from Arabia.
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@History.Culture.projects-y5m Actually, Yasser Arafat is a perfect example of why the "Palestinians are Canaanites" claim doesn't hold up. His father's name was Al-Husseini, a well-known Arab family with roots tracing back to Muhammad, from Arabia, not Canaan. This is the same family as the infamous Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who allied with Hitler. On his mother's side, Arafat was a Saud, another Arabian family. So, he clearly has deep Arabian roots from both sides, not Canaanite.
And this isn't just about Arafat. Many Palestinians have family names like al-Masri (meaning "the Egyptian"), al-Baghdadi (meaning "from Baghdad"), and others that clearly point to origins outside Israel, from places all over the Arab world. So, while some might try to claim a mythical ancient lineage, the names and documented histories often tell a very different story.
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You probably have come across this information from some websites that sound academic, but it's important to recognize that these sources are not reliable, no matter how convincing they may seem. The claims made in the comment you copied are completely misleading and wrong.
First of all, the Khazarian Hypothesis is entirely debunked and has no basis in fact. It’s a theory that has been thoroughly rejected by historians and geneticists alike. Jewish communities in Europe existed long before the Khazars even became a historical factor. The Jewish presence in Europe predates the Khazar period, and the idea that Ashkenazi Jews come from Khazars is a myth. In fact, we can trace the Jews' migration path directly from Judea, through Europe, and to today—there are no gaps or missing pieces in the historical record that would require such a theory.
Genetic evidence shows no Turkish or non-Levantine ancestry among Jews. The data overwhelmingly supports the conclusion that Ashkenazi Jews are descended directly from the ancient Judeans. The genetic continuity is clear, and it confirms the historical connection between Jews in Europe and those who lived in the land of Israel thousands of years ago.
Additionally, the claim that speaking Yiddish somehow negates a Jewish connection is misguided. While Yiddish was the main language spoken by Ashkenazi Jews, they never abandoned Hebrew. Hebrew has been continuously used by Jewish communities for religious study, scholarly writing, and religious correspondence without interruption. The idea that Ashkenazi Jews are somehow disconnected from the ancient Israelites because they spoke Yiddish is completely unfounded.
In short, I urge you to be more critical of these kinds of websites. They may sound convincing, but they are full of inaccurate information and flawed reasoning. The real evidence—both genetic and historical—strongly supports the continuity of the Jewish people from ancient times to the present. Please be careful when considering these theories, as they are based on misinterpretations of data and lack scholarly support.
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That's interesting. You say you're Palestinian and never identified as Arab, but this seems to contradict a lot of historical evidence. For example:
1. In 1937, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a Palestinian Arab leader, told the Peel Commission: 'There is no such country as Palestine! Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Palestine is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it.' He identified the people of the region as Arabs, not something separate.
2. In 1936, during the Arab Revolt, the Arab Higher Committee, the leading Palestinian political body, declared: 'Palestine is an integral part of the Arab motherland and the Palestinian people are a part of the Arab nation.'
3. As late as 1974, the PLO’s own National Covenant said: 'The Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.'
4. Even the Palestinian national poet, Mahmoud Darwish, wrote in his famous poem 'Identity Card': 'I am an Arab, and my identity card number is fifty thousand...'
And like I mentioned, the al-Husseini family, one of the most prominent Palestinian families, traces its lineage to the Prophet Mohammed, an Arab from the Arabian Peninsula.
So if Palestinians have historically identified as Arabs, their most influential families trace their ancestry to Arabia, and even their national declarations describe them as part of the Arab nation, how can you say Palestinians 'never identified as Arabs'?
And if they never identified as Arabs, why do so many Palestinian families today proudly trace their roots to specific Arab tribes?
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And here is another quote:
'The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality, today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.'
— Zuheir Mohsen, PLO Executive Committee member, 1977
So, it seems like many Palestinians disagree with you, and these are actually Palestinian leaders. So, I think you might need to check your facts if you actually are Palestinian. Maybe it’s possible you were misinformed or that you just haven’t heard these quotes before. But if Palestinians have historically identified as Arabs and even their leaders have said this openly, how can you say Palestinians 'never identified as Arabs'?
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@Sundancer09 First, the claim that Jews in Europe weren’t assigned surnames is flat-out false. In much of Central and Eastern Europe—particularly in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Prussia, and Tsarist Russia—Jews were legally required to adopt surnames in the 18th and 19th centuries. These names were often imposed by the state for purposes of taxation, census-taking, and control. Many were assigned arbitrarily, often with pleasant-sounding meanings like Greenbaum (green tree), Rosenberg (rose mountain), or Goldstein (gold stone), because they simply had to register a name—not because they were trying to reinvent themselves or hide anything.
Now to your second fantasy: that most European Jews were converts from Christianity, mostly through intermarriage. This is baseless nonsense. Judaism didn’t “spread” through intermarriage in Christian Europe—it was a closed, often persecuted community. Jews lived in isolated ghettos or shtetls, were prohibited from marrying Christians in most places, and conversion to Judaism was rare and often dangerous, especially under Christian rule. There were a few genuine converts over the centuries, sure—but to suggest most Jews in Europe descended from Christian converts is pure invention.
And let’s say—just for argument’s sake—that Jews chose names like Greenbaum or Goldberg 200 years ago. That still misses the point entirely. What Jews have always preserved, across millennia and across continents, are their Hebrew first names: Moshe, Shlomo, Miriam, Rivka, Eliyahu, David. Those names reach back to ancient Israel and have never been broken from the people’s identity.
That’s what you conveniently ignore—because it completely undermines your narrative. If you’re not just making things up, then show a credible historical source for your wild claims. Otherwise, it’s clear you’re not arguing from facts—you’re just clinging to propaganda.
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@scificyber You're the one making a straw-man argument. The issue isn't whether the term "Palestinian" exists as a national identity – of course it does. The OP was replying to the video which was specifically pushing the myth that Palestinians are some ancient, separate people with deep, unbroken roots in the land, supposedly descended from the ancient Judeans. That's what I was addressing, and if you want, I can explain why that claim has no basis.
And, Khalil Beidas did not "coin" the term "Palestinian." It was in use long before his time. In fact, the German philosopher Immanuel Kant used it at least 150 years earlier, ironically referring to Jews as "Palestinians." If Beidas used the term, he wasn't the first, and he clearly used it in a national, not ethnic, sense. So no, he didn't "create" an ethnic group by using the term, and coining a term doesn't magically create a people.
Second, if you want to argue that "Pakistani" is an ethnic identity, that is simply incorrect. It is a nationality, not an ethnicity, and that is my point. Pakistanis are made up of various distinct ethnic groups, including Punjabis, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Baloch, Muhajirs (Indian Muslim immigrants), Kashmiris, and others from Gilgit-Baltistan like the Balti and Burusho. Pakistan is an artificial political state created in 1947 for political reasons, just like the modern "Palestinian" national identity, which emerged in the 20th century as a political identity within the broader Arab world.
Third, the idea that Palestinians are "descendants of the Canaanites" is simply not true. They have no historical, cultural, or linguistic continuity with the Canaanites. They might carry some Canaanite DNA, but so do other Levantine peoples, including some Europeans. Carrying some ancient DNA does not make someone a "descendant" in the sense of a continuous, distinct cultural or ethnic identity. That's just not how history or genetics work.
Finally, many Palestinian leaders themselves have openly stated that Palestinians are simply Arabs. For example, Zuheir Muhsin, a high-ranking PLO official, famously said in a 1977 interview:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality, today, there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese."
So, if you want to accuse someone of building a straw man, maybe start by addressing the actual points being made in the original post and the video, instead of pretending the issue is just about the existence of a Palestinian identity.
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It seems like you're trying really hard to make this point, since you've plastered it all over this video—what, maybe 10, 15, 20 times? And you're not actually saying anything original. You're just copy-pasting from some fringe website, probably without even understanding what you’re quoting.
Case in point: you keep bringing up Elhaik. Now, anyone remotely familiar with the field knows exactly what that means. Elhaik is a well-known outlier in genetics—someone who pushes debunked theories like the Khazar hypothesis, which virtually no serious geneticist supports. So when you reach for him as your proof, all you're doing is waving a big red flag that says: “I couldn’t find a single reputable source to back me up.”
You're treating a fringe, discredited voice as if it’s gospel. That’s not how evidence works. That’s how propaganda works. And let’s be honest: if there were serious genetic or historical evidence for your claim that Palestinians are the “real Jews,” you wouldn’t have to reach for Elhaik. You’d be able to name a dozen respected scholars, mainstream studies, actual consensus. But you can’t—because they don’t exist.
So what you’re doing here is not just confused—it’s dishonest. You’re trying to mislead people by pretending that one extreme, out-of-context opinion somehow overturns mountains of actual research. And I suspect you know that. Or maybe you don’t. Maybe you're just copy-pasting things you don't understand because they sound like they support your narrative.
Either way, it's not impressive. It’s not persuasive. It’s not even coherent. If you want to be taken seriously, start by understanding what you’re quoting. Until then, all you're proving is how weak your argument really is.
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@arturferrao7353 Yes, anyone can scroll up and see that I replied to a comment that’s now gone. So, yes, your comment was deleted, and, yes, you did quote a YouTube video.
It’s a little sad at this point. You quoted Eightify, which is literally an AI YouTube summarizer, so your source was literally a YouTube video.
The more you deny it, the worse it looks. If you actually have a real source, then just post it. But just denying what everyone can see is starting to get a bit funny.
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Absolutely, you’re right — the Palestinian population is quite diverse, and there are many communities with origins outside of historic Palestine. For example, as you mentioned, some families in the Galilee trace their roots back to Algerian migrants who arrived after the French conquest of Algeria.
There are also Circassian communities in Israel and Palestine, originally from the Caucasus region, who were settled there by the Ottoman Empire. Turkish families, descendants of Ottoman settlers, also form part of the mosaic. In Gaza and other areas, there are Black Palestinian communities—sometimes referred to derogatorily as "Abid" (meaning "slaves"), though they are full members of the local society.
Other examples include the Dom people, sometimes called "Gypsies," who have a long history in the region, and Bedouin tribes whose origins can be traced to different parts of Arabia.
So yes, the Palestinian population includes a mixture of many ethnic backgrounds and migrations over centuries, which fits with the overall picture that they are a diverse group with varied origins.
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@baikorg Okay, let’s go over this very slowly.
You brought up Netanyahu changing his last name, and you seemed to think that somehow this is equivalent to Palestinian Arabs having names like Al-Masri (which literally means "the Egyptian") or Al-Mughrabi ("the North African"). Now, I want you to take a moment and really think about that.
Netanyahu’s original family name, Mileikowsky, was a name given or taken in exile—under foreign rule, often imposed by authorities, or adopted for survival. Jews in exile were scattered across Europe and the Middle East and often had to use local surnames. So, when someone like Netanyahu chooses to go back to a Hebrew name—Netanyahu, which has clear Biblical and Hebrew roots—he’s reconnecting with an identity that was always his people’s.
Now let’s compare that to the situation you're trying to equate it with. Palestinian Arabs with names like Al-Masri, Al-Turki, Al-Hourani, or Al-Mughrabi—those are not names imposed by foreigners. Those are family names that identify origin from other regions: Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Morocco. These names literally say, “This family came from somewhere else.”
See the difference? One is about reclaiming an ancient, native identity that was lost during exile. The other is about identifying where someone came from before settling in a place.
Now, let’s talk about first names for a moment, since you ignored that part completely. The first names of Jews—names like Moshe, Avraham, Yitzchak, Shmuel—have been in continuous use for thousands of years. They are directly from the Hebrew Bible. Even Jews in exile who had to use local surnames still kept these first names.
By contrast, names like Yasser, Ahmed, Mahmoud, Muhammad—these are Arabic names, many of which come directly from the Qur’an. Some of them resemble Biblical names but have been Arabized and Islamized. They do not reflect continuity with ancient Israelites. They reflect a different cultural and religious tradition.
So again, very slowly: the issue is not just about names changing. The issue is about what those names say. Hebrew names reflect continuity with a native people trying to reclaim their heritage. Names like Al-Masri reflect that someone’s family originally came from another country. That’s not the same thing. Not even close.
I hope that clears things up. If not, you might need to read it again, maybe twice.
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Your claim that modern Jews are a "mixture of different races who embrace Judaism" is simply false. Numerous large-scale genetic studies, including those by leading researchers like Harry Ostrer, Doron Behar, and others, have repeatedly demonstrated that Jews worldwide share a core genetic profile that traces back to ancient Israel, clearly distinguishing them as a coherent, ancient Levantine population, not just a "mixture of different races."
Second, the idea that Jews have "no relation to the tribe of the Children of Israel" is absurd. The genetic evidence overwhelmingly confirms that modern Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews, share a substantial portion of their ancestry with the ancient Israelites, with a particularly high degree of genetic continuity. This continuity is evident in shared Middle Eastern haplogroups like J1, J2, and E1b1b, which are significantly more common among Jews than in non-Jewish European or African populations.
Your claim that the ancient Israelites were merely an "immigrant tribe from Iraq" is a gross oversimplification. While Abraham is described as coming from Mesopotamia, the Israelite nation formed in Canaan and developed a distinct ethnic, cultural, and religious identity over a thousand years, deeply rooted in the Levant, not Mesopotamia. The genetic, linguistic, and archaeological evidence all point to the Israelites as a distinct, indigenous Levantine population.
Finally, your claim that Israel "prevents genetic studies of settlers" is a flat-out lie. Not only have numerous genetic studies been conducted on Jewish populations globally, including Israeli Jews, but these studies have been widely published in respected scientific journals without any evidence of Israeli interference.
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Oh, “you never identified as Arabs”? That’s interesting — because one of the most iconic Palestinian slogans, chanted for decades, is “Min al-nahr ila al-bahr, Filasteen ‘Arabiya.” Not hurra (free), not mustaqilla (independent) — Arab. So either someone forgot to run that through the new identity rebranding, or you’re rewriting history on the fly.
I guess when you started translating it into English — “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” — you remembered to, let’s say, massage the message a bit. But unfortunately for you, you forgot to change the Arabic. And thanks to the Internet, it’s not exactly hard to pull up the original. So… which is it?
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If you want to be taken seriously, you're going to have to bring more than just your own claims. Saying "we" or "I'm Palestinian" doesn't automatically make what you're saying true — especially when everything you're saying directly contradicts what Palestinians themselves and historians have said for decades. You claim Palestinians never identified as Arabs, that they aren’t tribal, and that their identity is only tied to their villages. But there’s no evidence for any of that. In fact, all the research and historical records say the opposite.
Palestinians have long identified as Arabs — in language, culture, and politics. Palestinian leaders, national charters, and even grassroots slogans have repeatedly said so. From the early 20th century, Palestinian identity was part of broader Arab nationalism. And yes, Palestinians are tribal too. Many families trace their roots to well-known Arab tribes from Egypt, the Arabian Peninsula, and North Africa. Just look at names like Masri (from Egypt), Hijazi (from the Hijaz), or Maghrabi (from the Maghreb). That’s not just village identity — that’s a clear admission of where their ancestors actually came from. So when you say Palestinian identity is tied to place, you're partly right — it’s just that the places they came from aren't always in Palestine.
You also said that "from the river to the sea" is just an Arab slogan "in defense of Palestine" — but again, if Palestinians aren't Arabs, why would Arabs be fighting under a slogan that says all of Palestine should be Arab? Why would they adopt that language if it didn't include Palestinians themselves? Are you suggesting the entire Arab world misunderstood who Palestinians are, but somehow you alone know the truth?
You then try to dismiss quotes from Palestinian leaders proudly calling themselves Arabs by saying they were just lying to get help. But who exactly were they lying to? Other Arabs? That doesn’t make any sense. And even if you make that claim, where’s the evidence of them ever saying something different in private or in public? You haven’t provided a single example — not one quote, speech, or document showing that Palestinians saw themselves as non-Arab. Your entire argument boils down to: believe me, I’m Palestinian — and everyone else, including Palestinian historians, national leaders, and average people — are all lying. That’s not a serious argument. That’s not evidence. That's just denial.
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@Kuss-Im-Khara-Tube Your entire case rests on: “Trust me, bro.” And we have no more reason to believe you than we do some random guy claiming he’s the king of Mars and everyone in his neighborhood are really Martians. Even if they insist they’re humans, he says they’re just lying to avoid being treated like aliens. And of course, we’re just supposed to believe him. That’s literally what you’re doing — asserting wild claims with no evidence and demanding blind belief.
You claim Palestinians are really Canaanites, that they have Canaanite traditions, and that Levantine Arabic was developed by the Nabataeans alongside Aramaic and Canaanite languages. That’s total fiction. There’s no linguistic or historical support for this — none. Arabic is a South Semitic language, and the Nabataeans didn’t “develop” it. In fact, they wrote in a form of Aramaic, not Arabic, and the transition to Arabic writing came much later. What you’re saying isn’t fringe scholarship. It’s just completely made up.
Then you say Arabic dialects are more different from each other than Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian. That’s simply not true — and even if it were, it wouldn’t mean they aren’t all Arabic. Dialect variation doesn’t make a language cease to be what it is. And by your logic, the fact that Saudis speak a form of Arabic that isn’t identical to classical Quranic Arabic would mean they aren’t Arabs either. Do you hear how absurd that sounds?
You also claim, “our culture is unique to us and isn't like Arab culture.” That’s a flat-out lie. Palestinian culture is obviously part of the broader Arab cultural world — in language, music, dress, cuisine, family structure, values, religious life, and every other meaningful metric. It shares all the defining elements of Levantine Arab identity and has done so for centuries.
You also claim, “we know who we are,” as if that somehow answers everything. But that’s not how truth works. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians have openly, proudly, and consistently identified as Arabs. They’ve declared descent from migrants from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. They’ve rallied under the Arab flag, chanted “We are Arabs,” and spoken Arabic as a native tongue for generations. And now you claim they’re all lying — and we just have to believe you? Based on what?
You’re offering zero evidence and asking for complete trust in your personal narrative, while denying the clear public record. That’s not a serious argument. That’s self-serving fantasy.
Until you can produce actual historical, linguistic, archaeological, or genealogical evidence — and not just your own imaginative retellings — no one has any reason to take your claims seriously.
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Your entire case rests on: “Trust me, bro.” And we have no more reason to believe you than we do some random guy claiming he’s the king of Mars and everyone in his neighborhood are really Martians. Even if they insist they’re humans, he says they’re just lying to avoid being treated like aliens. And of course, we’re just supposed to believe him. That’s literally what you’re doing — asserting wild claims with no evidence and demanding blind belief.
You claim Palestinians are really Canaanites, that they have Canaanite traditions, and that Levantine Arabic was developed by the Nabataeans alongside Aramaic and Canaanite languages. That’s total fiction. There’s no linguistic or historical support for this — none. Arabic is a South Semitic language, and the Nabataeans didn’t “develop” it. In fact, they wrote in a form of Aramaic, not Arabic, and the transition to Arabic writing came much later. What you’re saying isn’t fringe scholarship. It’s just completely made up.
Then you say Arabic dialects are more different from each other than Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian. That’s simply not true — and even if it were, it wouldn’t mean they aren’t all Arabic. Dialect variation doesn’t make a language cease to be what it is. And by your logic, the fact that Saudis speak a form of Arabic that isn’t identical to classical Quranic Arabic would mean they aren’t Arabs either. Do you hear how absurd that sounds?
You also claim, “our culture is unique to us and isn't like Arab culture.” That’s a flat-out lie. Palestinian culture is obviously part of the broader Arab cultural world — in language, music, dress, cuisine, family structure, values, religious life, and every other meaningful metric. It shares all the defining elements of Levantine Arab identity and has done so for centuries.
You also claim, “we know who we are,” as if that somehow answers everything. But that’s not how truth works. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians have openly, proudly, and consistently identified as Arabs. They’ve declared descent from migrants from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. They’ve rallied under the Arab flag, chanted “We are Arabs,” and spoken Arabic as a native tongue for generations. And now you claim they’re all lying — and we just have to believe you? Based on what?
You’re offering zero evidence and asking for complete trust in your personal narrative, while denying the clear public record. That’s not a serious argument. That’s self-serving fantasy.
Until you can produce actual historical, linguistic, archaeological, or genealogical evidence — and not just your own imaginative retellings — no one has any reason to take your claims seriously.
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We have no more reason to believe you than we do some random guy claiming he’s the king of Mars and everyone in his neighborhood are really Martians. Even if they insist they’re humans, he says they’re just saying that to avoid being treated like aliens. And of course, we’re just supposed to believe him. That’s literally what you’re doing — asserting wild claims with no evidence and demanding blind belief.
You claim Palestinians are really Canaanites, that they have Canaanite traditions, and that Levantine Arabic was developed by the Nabataeans alongside Aramaic and Canaanite languages. That’s total fiction. There’s no linguistic or historical support for this — none. Arabic is a South Semitic language, and the Nabataeans didn’t “develop” it. In fact, they wrote in a form of Aramaic, not Arabic, and the transition to Arabic writing came much later. What you’re saying isn’t fringe scholarship. It’s just completely made up.
Then you say Arabic dialects are more different from each other than Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian. That’s simply not true — and even if it were, it wouldn’t mean they aren’t all Arabic. Dialect variation doesn’t make a language cease to be what it is. And by your logic, the fact that Saudis speak a form of Arabic that isn’t identical to classical Quranic Arabic would mean they aren’t Arabs either. Do you hear how absurd that sounds?
You also claim, “our culture is unique to us and isn't like Arab culture.” That’s simply false. Palestinian culture is obviously part of the broader Arab cultural world — in language, music, dress, cuisine, family structure, values, religious life, and every other meaningful metric. It shares all the defining elements of Levantine Arab identity and has done so for centuries.
You also claim, “we know who we are,” as if that somehow answers everything. But that’s not how truth works. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians have openly, proudly, and consistently identified as Arabs. They’ve declared descent from migrants from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere. They’ve rallied under the Arab flag, chanted “We are Arabs,” and spoken Arabic as a native tongue for generations. And now you claim they’re all lying — and we just have to believe you? Based on what?
You’re offering zero evidence and asking for complete trust in your personal narrative, while denying the clear public record. That’s not a serious argument. That’s self-serving fantasy.
Until you can produce actual historical, linguistic, archaeological, or genealogical evidence — and not just your own imaginative retellings — no one has any reason to take your claims seriously.
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It's surprising to see someone say the video's claims are “obviously backed by history and scientific information.” That's just not true. The video misrepresents both the actual history and the genetic data.
First, the idea that modern Palestinians are direct descendants of the ancient Israelites isn't backed by any real evidence. Genetic studies show that Palestinian Arabs mainly come from the Arab populations that migrated to the region after the Islamic conquests in the 7th century. This fits what we know from history – that local populations, including Greeks, Samaritans, and others, were mostly assimilated into the new Arab Muslim population over time. There's no evidence that large numbers of Israelites were part of this, and any small genetic overlap is just the normal mixing you'd expect in a region with thousands of years of history.
Also, being a "people" isn't just about genetics. It's about language, culture, religion, and shared history. By these standards, modern Palestinians are Arabs, not Israelites. They speak Arabic, practice Islam, and have an entirely different culture and history. Trying to draw a straight line from ancient Israelites to modern Palestinians just doesn't add up.
The video also misrepresents genetics. Even if some Palestinians have a bit of ancient Levantine ancestry, that doesn't mean they're direct descendants of the Israelites. People in the Middle East have been mixing for thousands of years. Pointing to a few shared genes and calling it proof of direct descent is bad science.
Finally, the claim that Ashkenazi Jews are just “European colonists” with no connection to the land is a complete distortion of history. Genetic studies clearly show that all major Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi Jews, have deep genetic ties to the ancient Israelites. That's been proven in countless studies. Meanwhile, Palestinians share their genetic roots with the broader Arab world, not the ancient Israelites.
In short, this video is built on cherry-picked data and political spin, not real history or science.
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@kataluna22167 DNA doesn't lie – and that's exactly the point. Canaanite DNA is found all over the Levant, not just among Palestinians. It shows up in Syrians, Lebanese, Saudis, and even some Europeans. It has absolutely nothing to do with being "Palestinian." Having some Canaanite DNA doesn't make someone a Canaanite any more than having some Viking DNA makes someone a Viking.
Since you agree DNA doesn't lie, we can actually look at it, and it tells us exactly what we've known for a long time: Palestinians are Arabs, primarily carrying J-haplotypes and other genetic markers that trace back to the Arabian Peninsula, not to the ancient Canaanites.
So, even if some Palestinians have traces of ancient Levantine DNA, that just means their ancestors mixed with local populations over time, just like many other groups in the region. It doesn't make them a separate, ancient people.
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@verenatuna9010 The difference between Judean DNA and Arabian DNA is rooted in their separate population histories. Judean DNA reflects the ancient populations of the land of Israel and Judah, primarily carrying Y-DNA haplogroups like J2, E-M123, E-M84, and some J1, though usually not the J1-P58 subtype that is dominant in Arabs. This DNA signature is part of a broader Levantine genetic profile but has specific markers that set it apart, reflecting the distinct history of the ancient Israelites. It also includes unique maternal lineages like K, N1b, and H, which are common in Jewish populations.
Arabian DNA, on the other hand, is characterized by a much higher proportion of the J1-P58 Y-DNA haplogroup, which is strongly associated with the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. This DNA profile reflects a long period of genetic isolation in the harsh desert environment, as well as the rapid spread of Arab tribes during the early Islamic conquests. Arabian populations also have a distinctive autosomal DNA component known as "Basal Eurasian," which sets them apart from other Middle Eastern populations.
While Judean DNA is a subset of Levantine DNA, it is not the same as the broader Levantine genetic profile. Levantine DNA includes a mix of ancient Near Eastern populations, including Canaanites, Phoenicians, Arameans, Moabites, Edomites, and others. What sets Judean DNA apart is the continuity with the ancient Israelites and the specific genetic markers that reflect this distinct history, including a significant component of Bronze Age Levantine ancestry.
Modern Palestinians, despite living in the same geographic area, do not show a significant amount of this specific Judean DNA. Instead, their genetic profile is a complex mix, reflecting the many migrations and conquests in the region over the past 1,500 years. While they do have some Levantine DNA, this is a GENERAL regional component, not a direct link to the ancient Israelites. Their Y-DNA is dominated by J1-P58, marking them as part of the broader Arab genetic group, rather than the ancient Judeans.
This is the main error in the video and anyone else pushing this theory. And that's just the genetic error. The even bigger blunder is the ethnicity factor. Palestinians are a pure Arab ethnicity, with a cultural and linguistic identity that developed in the broader Arab world, not in ancient Judea. It is therefore ridiculous to suggest that they are somehow more Jewish than the actual Jews.
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@chingis83 You’re asking a misleading question. The idea that there was never a significant migration of people into the land now known as Palestine is simply false. In fact, there were multiple waves of migration into the region, most notably during the 7th-century Arab conquests, when large numbers of Arab tribes from the Arabian Peninsula spread into the Levant, including what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories. This was a massive, well-documented movement of people, completely transforming the ethnic and cultural makeup of the region.
Many of the most prominent Palestinian families themselves proudly trace their origins back to the Arabian Peninsula. For example, the al-Husseini family claims direct descent from Muhammad, clearly linking their roots to the Arabian Peninsula. This isn’t a mystery – it’s just a matter of historical fact. The idea of an ancient, separate Palestinian identity is a modern political invention with no basis in actual history or evidence. It was created in recent times to support political claims but has no real historical foundation.
So, while the Arab presence in the region is undeniable, it’s also historically clear that this presence dates back to a specific, well-documented period of conquest and migration, not to some ancient, unbroken connection to the land stretching back to biblical times.
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