Comments by "Voryn Rosethorn" (@vorynrosethorn903) on "Why Russia Isn't Actually Collapsing" video.

  1. Also in the countries it will be interpreted as do up support the state they represent rather than the individual. In the West also politicians are basically frontmen for corruption, a question like do you support the Monarchy (in Britain) or the republic (in France) is much more comparable and has similar results.
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  2. Several things, it's cultural, read some Russian history, it's miserable and there is suffering totally alien to Anglo culture experience and a lot of it. Without such a culture of resilience the Russians wouldn't exist, let alone be a power of any kind. Living in a big flat plain means dealing with constant warfare and raids, that is the context the nation came about in. Race is dependant on interpretation, Europeans in the past considered Russians Asian, as they were orthodox rather than Catholic and had lots of cultural distinction, they were very influenced by the byzantines and wore eastern style clothing. Even in the 19th century after westernisation they were still considered half Asian and utterly culturally alien, in WW2 Hitler planned to exterminate them and their civilians got treated with that expectation, even today a lot of western media narratives play othering them, even when the thing they point out was a product of westernisation, same with East Asia and low levels of divorce and illegitimacy, literally a western influence used to make them look strange instead of pointing out that the West is undergoing a societal collapse and the fact these things are uncommon not is not a good thing. Racially Pakistanis are white, so are North Africans, doesn't mean that things aren't a lot more complicated ethnically, culturally, religiously and in perceptions.
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  3. Guess I know where to go on holiday.
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  4. Basically the question was interpreted as do you support the state, but yeah the numbers are real. Unsurprisingly Russians support Russia. In terms of regime change it matters less, and is basically not a usable metric. But in terms of the war it's pretty good.
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  5. Some polls certainly, but there has been a lot of efforts to get round the problem and those ones show 80 or more %, fact is there is very little support for western liberalism in Russia.
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  6. Yep, the Russian census has been pretty widely condemned as awful, possibly fabricated in certain parts. But still, the western media narrative is wildly off the mark.
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  7. Basically the numbers are both true and what they mean is misleading. Putin is head of state and the question is basically being interpreted as do you support the state, a different leader would likely also get 80% or higher. Much of the older generation like our own are practically installed to the TV and thus think what state supported media tell them, same in the west, only difference is a greater variety of perspectives in terms of news itself. Most Russians are not anti-Russian, and many of those who were have left, you are basically left with a political ecosystem of people to the right of Putin, they also support him as they support the Russian Imperial project and oppose the West, but they dislike the corruption, incompetence and somewhat even the state structure, many want the Tsar back, but still they support Putin in the polls. You are left with basically people in the periphery who don't like Moscow and feel neglected. These polls are like going to China and asking if people like the CCP, that will be interpreted as China and so you will find the great revelation that the Chinese support China, for western comparison ask a Brit about the Monarchy, a Frenchman about the republic or an American the constitution.
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  8. He's elected, our elections are about as legitimate, we just have two options of the same on the ballot rather than one. He approval rating is real, it's just not being interpreted as is written, one of the reasons election rigging is largely insurance in Russia is that they merge the leader and nation to a large extent, that 80% support the current direction and vague shape of the regime, Putin is merely it's figurehead, if he gets replaced that support is likely to just shift over to the next guy. There is considerable dissent within that support, their are people who want major reform and a lot of it, but as they are Russian nationalists they stand behind the system in comparison to western liberalism and thus are under the 80% umbrella.
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  9. Seriously just look up the methodology or something, these polls are accurate and even with a little knowledge of Russian mindset, culture and history they are not surprising. The Russians aren't listening to western media but their own, they obviously support the country that are a part of and they are not western liberals. The main flaw is that these polls are a better indicator of support for the state than support of Putin. The remaining 20% very likely aren't even opposed to the war, Russia has internal politics to consider.
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  10. Nah, it's not great but it's needed, I was talking to my grandmother the other day and the propaganda in the media is insane. Honestly seems like groundwork for a World War, we need a little reality, Russia is not going to zergrush the whole of eastern Europe but nor are they going to fold, we are in for a long war.
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  11. This is how western states in general use figures, by non-gdp metrics we should be worrying less about Russia than ourselves.
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  12. It should be mentioned that the 80% approval rating is largely because Russians don't separate the person of the leader from the nation, his supporters often literally refer to him as the tsar. It should however be noted that he isn't the tsar, if he was that support would be so concrete it would be hard to put into words (the orthodox still recognise the divine right of kings, but it's deeper than that, the tsar is the rightful emperor of Rome and the steward of Christ's Church for the true believers, eg. the orthodox. Even more than that there is very deep sorrow about destruction and evil of the Soviets, especially among younger nationalists, the more religious see it as punishment from God for martyring their holy tsar (him and his family are literally saints now) and many also have the consideration that by being survivors of the Soviet system that means they are descended from people who submitted to and served it, Russian monarchist songs tend to have begging for forgiveness as a common theme), instead the polls are largely a measure of supporting the current system, Putin is the face of Russia but the face can change, as long as their is a proper succession process, the president is ethnic Russian (though this can be countered by just being good as a leader (something much rarer than being good as a politician in basically all political systems)) and he seems to be batting for the right side (both in that way and also in pursing Russian imperial ambitions) then he will get widespread support. It was notable with Wagner that there was very little intervention before the deal, this was basically fence sitting, people know that Putin has messed up, if he gets replaced it no skin off their teeth so long as they don't die for it and the next leader is better, but whoever won that 80% would still be 80%. In terms of actual changes to the system there is the group of nationalists who are anti-corruption and pro-competence, the monarchists and the western liberals, only the western liberals are actually traitors and if they take power (like the West wants) then Iraq will be repeated, the Russian population gave western liberalism a chance in the 90's and it's their conviction that they never will again. Personally I think Putin's succession will be interesting, over time the support for more of the same is internally weakening but the Romanov's don't really have a capable heir to present, indeed they are in dispute and none are legitimate under old succession law, someone groomed by Putin in the provinces is likely it then, but that won't resolve the entrenched corruption, negative incentive structures or the wishes of the ultra-nationalists (who are growing due to a variety of factors including a high birth rate)(also nationalist probably isn't the right word at all but I don't know another which would properly encompass the diversity of groups and interests).
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