Comments by "Voryn Rosethorn" (@vorynrosethorn903) on "Where do our modern ideologies come from? (Timeline Map)" video.

  1. Rousseau is absolutely key, he inverted the Christian moral system (sin is natural and virtue oppressive), stated that nature was good, wished to destroy social bonds and changed the meaning of freedom from freedom from the passions to freedom to do as you please. He created the utopian vision all left wing movements have been chasing ever since. When I talk to a left wing intellectual I hear Rousseau cited much more often than any other of these figures, Plato is old lamps for new, Rousseau is the future envisioned.
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  2. They have confirmed they existed with genetic evidence, of course what they were exactly is still a matter of considerable debate.
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  3. In the modern dissident right it is much more likely that Evola is a cover for the ideas of other people they don't want to name. They certainly like is work, too much in my view as it is very largely esoteric nonsense, but many of their positions use terms that come from the national socialists, just without making it clear that that's the origin, hilariously there are a number of anti-Semitic Marxists who also try to influence the space by minimising their conflicts with the national socialists, also there are a number of essentially sociopaths who introduce there lack of understanding of how people actually work, there are also a variety of 'trad' Christians who try and argue national socialism was Christian movement, I don't see why they bother. Personally it annoys me more than a bit that most genuine Christian intellectuals are not involved in the actual politics of their faith, as things are not exactly in the best state at them moment, and the only alternative being a bunch of esoteric clowns will lead us straight back into the mistakes of the 20th century. I mean it's a better community than anything with leftists involved, but I do wish they would grow up and start talking about real issues rather than trying to revive norse paganism or pretending half their intellectual (living) class isn't Jewish (genuinely it's something near to that).
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  4. The freemasons are secretive, any many of those who have written on them are schizophrenic, the most interesting angle would probably be the Catholic one as the two organisations have been in an underground war for centuries, however access to that information might be more difficult considering that liberals have pretty thoroughly infiltrated the Church at this point, it seems as though freemasons were involved in Vatican II even. It is historically accepted that they were important in the American and French Revolution, Whig politics, the political instability in Tsarist Russia, the 1848 uprisings and similar liberal revolutions, the Carlist wars and the Greek war of independence (which they started, helpfully wreaking long term Russian ambitions and leading to horrific reprisals against Greeks in Anatolia and other parts of the Ottoman empire, and eventual ethnic cleaning, not that the Ottomans didn't try even at the time, with an Egyptian army seeming to have the intention of enslaving the Greeks and colonizing Greece). Unsurprisingly not the nicest bunch, but they sure got around.
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  5. They are a cult, a pretty wacky one as well, you'd have an easier time with socialists in my experience.
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