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@Edzio3171 You’re out here talking about “human emotion” like common sense doesn’t exist and apply. And common sense is wild animal safari equals not a petting zoo, not a stage of choreographed people running around in animal costumes having friendships, not Chuckie Cheese animatronics singing and dancing together. Predators hunt and kill each other in the wild. Prey gets eaten. That’s nature, unfiltered. Why in Heaven’s name are you sitting up here defending a woman complaining she don’t want to see any of that while on an animal African Safari..
For the millionth time, since you love repeating yourself, you don’t go on a wild animal safari if you can’t handle watching wild animals do wild animal things. Nobody forced this woman to be there, yet she’s over there squawking about how she “can’t watch.” Then don’t. Step out, close your eyes, leave—whatever keeps you from ruining the experience for people who actually came out there to witness nature as it is. The safari guide also makes a living doing that and her whining costs him his job, turning off his camera ti coddle her on a safari.
And let’s be real—wild dogs eat their prey alive. A leopard taking down a wild dog in this way was pretty tame for how wild dogs act towards their own prey. This woman saw something pretty tame by predator standards and is still whining. If this woman (or you) are so horrified by reality, maybe stick to Discovery Channel and National Geographic nature documentaries with soft piano music in the background. With these more realistic clips of how the wild really is and safaris, nature doesn’t care about your delicate sensibilities.
If you want to have emotions about it, fine. But stay home and play with your pets.
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@theeyeoftheholder9583 Edzio, I get that you’re trying to defend her “human nature,” but let’s be real—what’s going on here is not about empathy. It’s about someone going to a wild animal safari, expecting to see wild animals acting like something from a kids’ movie, and then whining when things get real. She didn’t get her Chuck E. Cheese experience with animal costumed folks dancing to “Oh I Just Can’t Wait To Be King.” Instead, she went on a Safari and got (surprise, surprise) nature—where animals act on instinct, hunt, and sometimes kill to survive and defend territory.
Now, you’re saying it’s “human nature” to feel empathy or fear, but that’s not the point. It’s human nature to know what you’re signing up for. You go on a safari to witness nature in all its glory—the good, the bad, and the ugly. The filmmaker’s also human and able to do his job, capturing the wild as it is without the whining. So problem human nature—it was her uniquely disruptive behavior. She couldn’t handle it, so she caused a scene, stopping the camera and likely ruining it for everyone else who was there to experience reality, not some sanitized version of the animal kingdom.
If she couldn’t handle what she was signing up for, she should’ve stayed home. Nobody asked her to be there, and her screeching complaints did nothing but interrupt the experience for others, including those watching. It’s not about human empathy, it’s about respecting the environment you’re in and the reality of wild animals behaving like… wild animals.
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Interesting post RC. I can definitely tell you know your stuff. Yea, I used to think it was alligators and crocodiles that the Jaguar was killing and finally learned that this isn't true from someone else on YouTube, but this Caiman you describe. You have elaborated on that to enlighten me on types of Caiman, specifically this Black Caiman. Very interesting. Thanks for the fun facts. Yea, I am actually in a debate with someone else on YouTube who thinks a Jaguar would easily take a crocodile out even in the water. I have been telling them err... no and it would seem you would agree. While a Jaguar is certainly skillful in the water, it is not its natural habitat and a natural water-world killer like the crocodile. The crocodile has the strongest jaws of any animal and is a natural water-world killer. While a Jaguar may be able to take out a Caiman in the water, I don't think it would have a chance AT LEAST in the water with a crocodile. Now the only information you spoke on that I have some reservations about is your assumption that a Jaguar would take out a leopard. At first thought, I would think so too. But honestly after some of the shit I've seen leopards do on YouTube, I honestly don't know. I mean, it looks as though a leopard would take out a female lion one on one. Although leopards typically run from females, I saw a leopard confronted by three females and it held its own. So that leads me to believe if it's not a standoff and a equally matched fight, I can't see the leopard just losing to the Jaguar. I think if anything both animals would end up half killing each other. Also, I never knew that about Jaguars having the strongest jaws of all mammals. I always thought that honor went to the hyena.
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vik56in Great info Vik55in. And its exactly as I suspected, that the jaguar can't defeat the leopard like its nothing like a lot of these other users were saying. It would be one hell of a fight, a fight to the finish, I am talking a bloodbath. I am thinking both cats would end up killing each other. Either that or maybe the leopard would win. It's hard for me to see a leopard come up the loser unless another animal is way bigger. As u said, pound for pound they can lift their own body weight and kill all sort of animals. I have seen leopard kills porcupines, snakes, take on several lionesses, scare off lone hyenas, sometimes even 2 hyeneas, not anymore than that. That said, I am sure the jaguar would definitely give the leopard a run for its money. I have seen them do some incredibly stuff but not as incedible as the leopard. THought there is less footage and studies of jaguars as you said to be fair.
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@Frenchtoast4574 While you argue that feeling empathy and sorrow is “human nature,” it’s also human nature to choose what we expose ourselves to. If someone is so easily overwhelmed by nature’s brutality, they should have used their brain and anticipated the raw reality of a safari and decided not to show up and subject themselves to it. Real nature isn’t meant to coddle our emotions—it’s meant to remind us that the wild operates by its own brutal rules, leaving no room for sanitized, cushioned experiences and fairytale happily ever afters.
Also, this leopard taking down a wild African dog might seem harsh to some, but by safari standards, it’s actually pretty tame. Wild African dogs eat their own prey alive—it’s a natural, relentless process that’s been honed by evolution over countless generations. Expecting to see some choreographed, animal costume display of nature is ridiculous. If you’re planning to experience a true safari, you need to be prepared for the unfiltered, sometimes gruesome realities of the animal kingdom.
So, if the intensity of nature’s raw display is too much to bear, that’s on you for going on Safari. By choosing to go on a safari, you agree to witness nature as it truly is, with all its brutality and beauty. If you’re going to whine or disrupt the experience because it doesn’t meet your expectations of a “feel-good” nature show, disrupt the filming with your whining, then it’s disrespectful of you not to have stayed home. The wild doesn’t have time to accommodate your delicate sensibilities—it simply is what it is.
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