Comments by "LRRPFco52" (@LRRPFco52) on "Senator Bernie Sanders"
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@msaar1303 Anyone who joins the US military will be subject to the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). For example, when Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter joined the Navy Reserves as an officer, he pissed hot for cocaine on a urinalysis and was kicked out.
When George W. Bush flew F-102s in the Texas Air National Guard and asked if he could deploy to Vietnam, they denied him because he didn't have enough flight hours in the F-102. They were only sending guys with 500+ hours, mostly guys with 1000hrs, and F-102s were being pulled out anyway.
One exception I can think of is John McCain. He crashed so many aircraft, he should have been banned from pilot status, but his dad and grandpa were both admirals.
When I mention the bulk of Finnish combat power, I'm talking about a unique set of weapons the US supplied to Finland even before we sold them to the UK. Those particular weapons are only employed with the F/A-18C. They have deep strike capability within Russia, with very large warheads (JASSM). Finland now has the ability to strike the naval yards at Murmansk, Primorsky, air bases in Saint Petersburg military district, and deeper targets in Russia, without even flying near the border.
Prior to this, with the MiG-21, Saab Draken, and even original F-18C configuration, this capability was unimaginable to FiAF.
The main combat power of FDF at the time was artillery and disbursed Infantry units who would lose ground slowly to Russia as the strategic plan, in a guerilla-like campaign on our own soil.
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I’ve lived in Finland many years, as my mom is from there. I don’t really accept the premise that Finland is the "happiest country”. How would you even measure such a thing? Finland is very depressing for the people in the winter, so you see them brighten up for the few weeks of summer, then the long winter kicks back in.
One cultural aspect of Finland that does contribute to a sense of well-being is summer cottages, which is really a regional thing based on geography. There are over 188,000 lakes in Finland, so it’s very easy to own a small summer cabin in a land area the size of California, with the population of only 5.5 million.
This has nothing to do with forms of government.
Another cultural aspect of health in Finland is hundreds of years of harsh winter breeding a tough, physically-resilient people who embody this with sisu.
Then there is the sauna bath culture, which is excellent for your health.
It’s also very academically and intellectually inept to compare this northern nation with long winters and a relatively-homogenous demographic, to the US in its temperate zone with 330 million people who are genetically-diverse.
It’s erroneous and myopic to think that government is the primary contributor to the things that make Finland unique.
Finland also benefits from the hard work, taxes, and advanced systems development of the huge mass of people in the US and US industries, whether we’re looking at Finnish Air Force F/A-18s (soon to be F-35A Block 4s), medicine, medical diagnostics equipment, electronics, computers, etc.
Senator Sanders has an agenda to force the story of Finland into his profit hole, but he hasn’t considered the multi-factorial variables that make Finland what it is.
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@EnGammalAmazon I've gone to school in Finland, my mom went to school in Finland, and some of my kids are in school in Finland right now (university).
My mom left Finland after high school to seek better opportunities abroad. Where did she go? To the US, attending a prestigious university.
There just aren't anywhere near the number of opportunities in Finland as there are in the US for higher education.
For elementary schooling, Finland has kind of a hybrid of Prussian method but more relaxed. They've taught multiple languages since Finland used to be part of the Swedish Empire, but they refused to Russify during the Czarist times as a Grand Duchy.
I do like that elementary school starts later, but I'm personally very opposed to compulsory schooling because it really trains people to be conformists, not problem-solvers.
Finland is unique intellectually though because of the language. The words in Finnish are like Rubik's cubes that have to be changed in usage with interlocking and layered grammatical and vocal harmony rules.
It allows each Finn to craft their own mannerisms of sentence structure and positions, as there are no prepositional phrases in Finnish.
For example, in English I would say, "I'm going to Helsinki."
In Finnish, you say, "Minä mennen Helsingiin."
There are 23 different positional word endings you attach to objects, but then you have to go back into the word to vocal harmonize it.
It's a very dynamic and adaptive neuro-network of hyper-plasticity relative to other languages, where you can say the same thing in so many different ways.
The grammar makes other languages feel like cheating to learn, extremely difficult to attempt as an adult.
I believe there is more to this than any particular form of schooling used in Finland. Political philosophers who don't even understand basic geography, history, or demographics, like to assign concepts they align with as causal to observed positive outcomes, without taking a holistic analysis of the environment.
They like things simple and compartmentalized, rather than doing the work of studying everything from a fresh perspective.
Most of what I see and hear about Finland is parroted by people who have never been there, don't really know anything about Finland, and cherry-pick what they see. Bernie Sanders is a prime example of cherry-picking to fit his agenda.
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@joonasseppala1413 I’m formulating my thoughts based on living all over Finland and all over the US, then looking at statistical analyses. This comparison highlights how good the US actually is though, since the population of the US is 335 million, vs 5.5 million for Finland. Finland is a rounding error by US numbers, at only 1.6% of US population. Female suicide rate is the same in both countries.
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US Total: 14.5 Males: 22.4 Females: 6.8
Fin Total: 13.4 Males: 20.1 Females: 6.8
Standard deviation is only 1.1 between Males in both Nations. That means the rate is relatively high in Finland, and is particularly high for Europe. Is this because of healthcare, government, greens vs SDs? No, it’s because of the cold, darkness, alcoholism, social isolation-all very Finnish realities.
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@sandrafrancisco Lots of wealthy people volunteer for military service in the US, for various reasons. Examples include:
Ronald Reagan
George H.W. Bush
Joseph Kennedy Jr (KIA)
John F. Kennedy
John McCain
John Kerry
George W. Bush
Oliver Stone
Jimmy Carter
Pat Tillman
Beau Biden
Hunter Biden
I could go on about men from wealthy families in the US who joined the military, but you'll recognize the names of most of the above, (except the oldest Kennedy brother you never knew existed).
Many serve for Country, duty, the challenge, to rebel against pacifist parents, adventure, family tradition, or in Oliver Stone's case, total loss in hope for living.
The stories of each are far more interesting and complex, none of which can be bundled into a simpleton phrase Bernie would use.
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@msaar1303 I haven't just visited Finland. I've lived in Finland at different times from 1979-2016, as well as West Germany, Japan, South Korea, Panama, Middle East, Switzerland, Estonia, Denmark, Greece, and Russia. I have lived in Finland longer than any other country besides the US, followed by West Germany, Korea, and Russia. Mulla on kaksi kansalaisuus, including Finland.
Very few Finns have been to all the places in Finland that I have. People in their home countries typically follow a predictable rabbit path, and never see much of their nations. This is true in Europe, Russia, Central America, Asia, and for a large part of the US population, but with a significant amount of job migration State-to-State.
When Finns get vacation, they either go to kesämökki or a warmer country in Europe, preferably near the Mediterranean. Many others travel to the US. Florida alone had a 25,000-30,000 population of Finns in 2011. There are at least 650,000 Finns living in the US. This goes back to the point about not living in a bubble.
I'm just relating my perspective, which is significantly different than how things are commonly portrayed and then echoed.
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@ullasofia9432 I'm not an ignorant American though, with no knowledge of Finland. I've lived in Finland on and off since 1979, so I'm aware of the various parties in Finland and I have followed and voted in Finnish elections.
Socialism, Marxism, Leninism, the Communist Party USA (which is now called Democratic Socialists of America), Finnish Social Democrat Party, etc. all operate under the political philosophy of Marx and Engels, with hybrid variations peculiar to each nation and region where they're experimented with.
Karl Marx is the last person you want to let influence you on any decision in your personal life, let alone those of a society. You might want to study more about him. He hated his Jewish family, despised his mother, but hungrily waited for them to die so he could inherit their wealth.
He never really held down a job, didn't support his 7 children, while the Engels family paid for his East End London apartment.
I would recommend listening to Thomas Sowell, a former Marxist who read all 3 volumes of Das Kapital, unlike any of his professors at Harvard or University of Chicago.
Finland needs some different voices more than ever right now, as opposed to the usual internal echo chamber that glorifies the non-existent virtues of socialism.
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@michelangelobuonarroti4958 I respectfully don't accept your premises, after decades of experience and research in this field, to include living all over the US, Germany, and Finland.
After all that I have seen, especially the internal audits of NHS, and the conditions of hospitals, wait times, available procedures, and standards of care, I have never seen anything that shows superiority in Finland, with one exception (that is no longer the case): Labor and Delivery water birth option.
I have the choice of where to live since I have EU Citizenship through Finland. For me and my family, we choose to live in the US.
We have lived in Finland before, but much prefer the US for different reasons. We got quick and efficient care only when we went to the private sector in Finland. Public sector is a joke by US standards.
Even in the private sector, you have to get prescriptions for very common Over the Counter medications from Apteekki, whereas in any grocery store in the US, you can just buy them. Tylenol, aspirin, cremes, etc. Apteekki hours are very limited too, whereas I can get anything OTC basically around the clock in the US.
EMS is fast in the US, with far more Level 1-4 Trauma Centers per capita, more Fire/Ambulance, Life Flight, and PTLS-trained Paramedics and EMTs, more Automated External Defribulators distributed throughout buildings, and more trauma surgeons and nurses per capita.
European countries vary in quality/quantity dramatically in all of the above metrics, none of which are up to US standards, but are trying to reach the US.
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@msaar1303 In the post-WWII period, the US launched a campaign called Bretton Woods, where we provided the security arrangements and let anyone else who wanted to trade with us benefit from that, while focusing on their economies and industries. Finland was relatively neutral diplomatically, but slowly started to warm up to the West, while still benefiting from its structural interoperability with Russia (proximity and shared railway).
After the time of the Soviet Collapse, Finland then started really leaning more to the West, especially with military hardware. Other countries are too poor to fund the tens of billions in RDT&E, so the US allows them to buy fighters, missiles, tanks, etc. as if they were US military services. This is why the Finnish Air Force acquisition of F-35As contract is handled under US Defense Logistics Agency and DoD budget.
In dollar value terms, the initial JSF program RDT&E would be 22.8% of Finland’s 2021 GDP. It’s just not possible to ask tiny countries with 5.5 million population to fund the development of advanced weapons system made by a nation with 330 million population and huge industrial sectors that span across a continent.
The same is true in the healthcare industry.
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@c_3791 I did listen to the whole interview. Bernie Sanders (multi-millionaire dead beat who never really worked in his life, owns multiple mansions, net worth well over $3 million, politician-for-life) steered the conversation to fit his false agenda that the US should model itself after Finland.
This is one of the most retarded arguments we see, because nobody does the math. As soon as you see the population, region, climate, and cultural differences, you know right away that comparing a 5.5 million mostly-homogenous genetic population living in the sub-arctic has no relevant metrics to a 330 million diverse genetic population living in a temperate zone.
Finland's metrics are rounding errors mathematically compared to the US, at 1.6% of the US population.
A mathematical ignoramus like Bernie Sanders will easily overlook things like this to fit his Soviet-sponsored political career. Did you know that Russian money paid for many of Sander's campaigns?
He is financed by Council For a Livable World, an Active Measures Soviet-Era front to destabilize the US.
Soviets also started YLE taxpayer-financed propaganda service in Finland. Most Finns have of course never heard this, can't believe it. Finns are very naive people who trust and believe what has been reported on YLE for generations as if it was gospel truth.
It's an interesting case study in mass information control and obedience.
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@francisdec1615 My grandfather was a Swedish-speaking Finn. Mannerheim was also a Swedish, German, and Russian-speaking Finn who could barely function in Finnish.
Most Swedes I've encountered are very proud, think that Sweden is some type of utopian kingdom, generally view all Americans as dumb.
They're particularly proud of their Gripen fighter, their economy, and NHS based on internal propaganda.
I point out how the Gripen's engine is made by GE in the US, as is its Mil-1553B data bus, fuel sealants, transistors, canopy, electronic components, brakes, electrical power, several radios, cabin systems, FLIR pod, and several weapons are made in the US, while its gun is made in Germany, ejection seat from England, hydraulics, landing gear, valves, refueling probe, stick and throttle come from UK, wire harnesses, composites, fasteners, APU, and ECU come from France/US.
This similar kind of break-down emerges when you look at Healthcare products, systems, training, and procedures.
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@msaar1303 None of those nations have anywhere close to the US population. First thing about statistics is the larger the observed population is, the larger the standard deviation will be, and each metric will average lower.
Also, the OECD metrics are faulty, not scientific at all.
EMS, dentistry, wait times for Healthcare, and Healthcare options are superior on the US, so they ignore that and switch to costs. Of course better Healthcare costs more, especially when you're also footing the bill for research and development for countries who buy at bulk rates from you because they can't afford retail prices.
This makes pricing even higher in the US because so much of modern Healthcare systems are funded by US programs-not all, but most. Europe and Canada have many similar studies, research, etc, but nowhere near the capacity of the US to do it.
Just look at how many MD, nursing, radiology, specialist, and EMS programs and universities there are in the US compared to all of Europe.
Same with airfields/airports. US has over 14,000.
Most of the medical advancements happen because of defense, which is why I start with defense as an interesting metric from which to branch out from.
If you haven't heard this argument before, it shows you've been operating in an echo chamber reinforcing common beliefs that I see as erroneous and unscientific.
I have used the Finnish NHS, taken several family members in it to appointments or walk-ins, and it reminds me of the US VA system-not as good as the private sector.
Not terrible, but not exceptional or oriented towards high quality patient care. I know what that looks like, and it isn't in any NHS.
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