Comments by "LRRPFco52" (@LRRPFco52) on "Thoughty2"
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There was no justifiable reason to institute Prussian model schooling in the US, as we already had the highest literacy rates in the colonies before the Revolution due to the library system started by Benjamin Franklin and the Junta. Schools are for behavioral and thought conditioning with repetitive motions you submit to. You will learn more in a day sometimes than an entire school year when studying independently. Best thing to do is find something you really enjoy or love, then dive into it, learn everything there is to know about it, approaching it from multiple angles.
Example: I really loved airplanes as a kid. I got every book, checked out everything in the library I could or read them in the library, studied the history of their development, studied cockpit diagrams, attended every air show possible, and interviewed all my neighbors that were test pilots for the Air Force. My dad worked on them for the USAF as well, so I was surrounded by aviation. Along the way, I started to quickly learn about the physics and math involved with aspects of aviation, materials strengths and limitations, effects of thermal shifts on metals and composites, structural challenges for aircraft design, integration of various systems, and a whole range of industries that go into making aircraft. My personal studies into these matters far exceeded anything I ever wasted my time with in school. School was a distraction from me studying my passion, and rarely intersected with it.
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Paul TheSkeptic: Our kids do science studies all the time here at home, as well as with local groups that encourage a lot of field trips led by the mothers. My girls have nature journals that involve a lot of observation, with references of the different species that my wife sourced for them. At ages 6 and 4, they are already more well-versed on local animal and plant species than I ever was. They also do dance, music, and any subject they are interested in. I wish I could have had an education like this when I was a kid, but both my parents were away working to pay for mortgages and car loans, so I was dropped off at babysitters or daycare, then went to school to not learn anything all day, more daycare, then picked up around 6:00p.m., usually the last ones to be picked up.
I did a lot of studying on my own because I had so many interests, despite the distraction that school was, and I accredit those personal studies with all the success I've had as an adult. I can't think of anything in school that really helped out a lot, other than maybe some basic grammar and writing lessons in grade school. I would have been much better off on my own, with periodic instruction from tutors.
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"Middle class" in Finland would be "poverty" in America, not that we really have poverty in America. Countries that have true poverty have orphanages, lack of clean water, sewage, dentistry, homes built to code, environmental management of infrastructure, continuity of stable of government, etc. I've lived in Finland many times, my mom is from there, and while it is one of the better places in the world to live, trying to compare it to the US amounts to comparing a homogenous Nordic 5.5 million population that lives above 60˚ N latitude in a lake-saturated forrest, to a population of 327 million very diverse people who live in a temperate zone, filled with the most vast connection of rivers, farmland, and deep sea ports on earth. Finland compares with maybe one of the States in the Great Lakes region. Any comparisons beyond that are built on a lot of false premises and extrapolated data that just don't fit well at all. They do have a better approach to being relaxed with the earlier years of childhood and schooling, but schooling isn't necessary.
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