Comments by "Michael Deierhoi" (@michaeldeierhoi4096) on "The Psychology of Conformity" video.

The reality is that we all must conform to some degree to live in this world. In the case of this pandemic when given all the evidence one must conclude that this pandemic is real. After all the vast majority of world accepts this pandemic is real. And being real it is in our our best interest to follow certain recognized precautions to keep one's self safe, but also to protect others especially those who are more vulnerable to getting sick and worse dying. Thus if I do not take steps to avoid infecting others by masking, or gathering in large groups, etc then I am acting selfishly. If I refuse to believe the pandemic is real or exaggerated what might I be afraid of looking at to accept this pandemic is real and is killing people in large numbers.
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@riceyo62 You spout that same reductive argument that has been said before by people who are either anti-vaxers are skeptics about the pandemics in some way. In the first place it is not just about the death rate, because that greatly over simplifies the problem. There are many more aspects that you are unwilling to consider. First and foremost, the pandemic would have killed millions more, but for the measures taken over the past year to slow the spread of Sarscor2 such as masking, shut downs, social distancing etc. Second, the 1% figure ignores how overwhelmed medical staff was in many hospitals around the world. Now those same medical staff are quitting or transferring to another dept because they are simply burned out. Because now there is new onslaught of of patients with covid especially in southern states which had the lowest levels of vaccination. So the current wave of covid patients are at least 90% UNvaccinated. And those increasingly stressed hospitals are struggled more because of reduction in available staff. In other words this is now an unnecessary increase in Covid because so many people refused to get vaccinated. And this wave could get worse before it gets better.
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Hollow Recluse You convince no one!!
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@lovemusic324 So you have a low daily count. That's a good thing of course if you are stable at that level. The other important statistic is how many people are vaccinated? Because if you are not above 60% the delta variant will eventually find its way to your community and cause a spike in cases. Not guaranteed of course, but likely. And there are other factors at play in your community. How many of the people wearing masks for examples?
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@poisonivy00785 Have you got a source to back up what you are saying? I'll bet not, but go ahead and try.
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@TheCenyon When you act as though this pandemic is not about you so you can go around without a mask or getting vaccinated then yes you are selfish. Because this is not just about whether or not you get infected, but you could transmit the virus and not even be aware that you are carrying the virus. And this Delta variant is much more infectious then the previous variants of the coronavirus. So you are more likely to infect others if you are carrying the virus. Additionally, 90% of the patients in hospitals now are UNvaccinated. The death rate from covid is up five times what it was in Florida and Texas alone. If you actually researched anything about this pandemic currently from a RELIABLE source then you would know this. I have been vaccinated and always wear a mask indoors because I don't want anyone to get infected because of me. That's how this works. Oh, I feel just as free as before the pandemic!!
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@maevemaiden That's funny, because I don't use twitter at all. So thanks for setting an example of the folly of making assumptions. Not to mention your generalized ad hominems attacks that good for what I have no idea?!
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Hollow Recluse You obviously picked that nonsense up from some conspiracy theory which are paranoid and delusional and consequently mislead people just like you. Of course you could have also gotten that pack of lies from Facebook which also misinforms people.
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@prettz9742 Sure if you SHARE a mask or wear it too many times of course you could have problems with bacteria. Otherwise, any talk of masks as a breeding environment for bacteria is hyperbolic conspiracy theory nonsense. At any rate I seriously doubt that you could come up with reliable source to back up that claim. And as for pneumonia patients, that has spiked BECAUSE of covid not separate from covid because the Sarscor2 virus attacks every body system especially the lungs. Jeez, I thought everyone knew that.
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@kellynisbett5876 In other words you are completely unaware of the possibility that you could be infected with Delta variant and be asymptomatic and yet pass it on someone else who could get sick and even die from covid. How would feel if SOMEONE ELSE died because they caught the coronavirus from you? Because that happens a lot. Sometimes one person in a family catches the conronavirus and in turn infects others without even knowing it. Sometimes those other family members get or die from covid.
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@garryallison4716 In the first when you make the statement " what if you know it's not real", you are raising an absurd hypothetical. This pandemic is quite real based on the information that is available from around the world as well as my own direct experience with this pandemic for the last 20 months.. People who call this pandemic unreal or fake are in denial because they can't handle the truth of what is happening. Denial is an understandable response to a difficult circumstance, but when it is continued WILFULLY then it becomes an act of cowardice!! I have followed this pandemic from the beginning and it is republicans and Drumpf who have made the pandemic a partisan issue because they can't win elections anymore except by cheating, lying and deceiving people. That makes them cowards as well because they are so afraid of losing!!
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@softcolly8753 Here is what you are not understanding. The mortality rate from cancer and heart disease has been stable for years with only marginal reduction in the death rate. These are classified as chronic illnesses. Covid on the other hand is an acute illness and if the measures that were taken had not taken place we would be talking about well over million dead instead 700,000. And that is just in the US. No reliable doctor would advocate for a less aggressive policy then was instituted. In fact much more could have been done especially since the US had the worst response to this pandemic in the world. Some developing countries had more deaths per Capita, but no developed country did as bad as the US thanks especially to the counter productive policies of the former president. But that is another story.
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@jebusslaves9297 Thanks for the comment. I find it interesting and even entertaining to attempt to dialog with some of these people. It also affords me the opportunity to refine my own message.
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@Roblox_Jesus I am expressing my opinion like anyone else that comments. So it sounds like you have trouble hearing points of view that you disagree with and you also apparently don't know how to respond. That is of course your problem not mine!
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@anythingthoughanythingthou2453 You claim that I am authoritarian without even knowing me. Plus you you can't respond to my comment(s) rationally so you label as something that find objectionable. What you are saying just like gunner is that you have difficulty responding to comments which are different from your own.
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@Crusader_MET To bad you are such a poor judge of people. I actually found this video to be quite interesting and I agree with much of it. And it is also interesting that people on opposite sides of political fence use this video to attack the other side. You fit right in to that perspective. Good job.
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Many people are seeing this issue in rather black and white terms when in actuality we are all conformists to a certain degree and have to be in order to live in this world. Thus it strikes me as kind of a relative thing or that we are all on this spectrum of conformity to nonconformity. This really comes down to seeing ourselves as we are and whether we can accept ourselves as we are or not. And to what degree are we willing to change if we feel we are too conforming to the world. Our maybe our attempt to be nonconformist is not genuine, but a facade to impress others.
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If you think it is a "Plandemic" your opposition is to what so many millions of us recognize is what we have to do not just for our welfare, but for that of our neighbors like you. So to a certain degree conformity is necessary to live in this world. I wear a mask more to protect others from me in case I have the virus. And hopefully the more others do the same the more we are all protected. The same thing with getting a vaccine. People who think they are nonconformist by not participating in the community effort to wear a mask or get vaccinated are REACTING to avoid their perception of conforming like sheep. When in fact the act of reacting to what is recommended by government and medical authorities can be a fear of conforming for what is best for the greater good of all. Sorry to be so long winded, but there it is.
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@ladyvirgo013 You are missing the point here. We are still in the midst of a pandemic that has killed over 5 and half million people in the US alone and over 2.8 million world wide. I am not blindly supporting the government or big pharma, but we are seeing many doctors who also understand the threat posed by this virus. When your reaction becomes a kind of "Cutting off one's to spite one's face" you could be putting yourself and those close to at greater risk by refusing the vaccination. In other words the virus is a much greater threat then the vaccine.
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@ladyvirgo013 Quite the contrary. I consider risks all the time. I have some appreciation of risk assessment which has its basis in probability as well as risk inherent in different systems. My desire to take the vaccine goes well beyond just my own selfish needs.
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@janjansen7983 Who was talking to anyway? You just show up without even being involved in this interaction til now and think you are relevant.
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@janjansen7983 I'll bet you show up where you are not wanted too don't ya now?!
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@kellynisbett5876 The perspective that I provided is based on a lived experience and what I have learned listening to numerous health professions which included many doctors. And my comment is also backed up by the research on covid and the higher infectious nature of the Delta variant. Apparently, that is an inconvenient truth which you couldn't even counter with a rational argument because you appear to define yourself by what you oppose instead of what you stand for. These are sad times when uneducated people reject science without good reason. That was what you just did in your comment!!
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@controlavirus9839 HaHaHaHaHaHaHa The fact is that we are all dumbasses to some degree because we participate in this degrading and corrupt society in one or another. And where do get the idea I'm trying to fool anyone? Try to post something that adds to the issue of this conversation/video. Your childish rants do nothing to add to the conversation. imho
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@dianah.9718 HaHaHaHaHaHa. As if you care!?
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@TheEd0205 You know you can sweet talk me all you want, but I'm still not going to double date with you and that's my final answer! Good day sir!!
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@michelebroyles6941 You exemplify that old adage that it is easier to fool someone then to convince them that they have been fooled! Suck on that for a while!
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@jontuttle5560 There is absolutely no evidence at this time of any "vaccine exclusive variants" as you call them. The death rate from the Sarscor2 virus began declining AFTER the vaccination program began ramping up back in January into February. Now in the last month and a half there has been an increase in overall infections hospitalizations and deaths. And the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among those who are not vaccinated or not fully vaccinated. I question the degree of protection of someone who has lived through covid and claim to have a natural immunity. How might the natural immunity differ from those with a mild case of covid vs a more severe case? Basically there is insufficient data about these so called people with natural immunity to draw any conclusions at least as far as how much natural immunity provides.
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@tomatojuice984 You are entitled to your opinion. Have a nice day.
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@evanmilanowski7397 You say I am not this and I believe that, but in reality you have no idea what I believe. When you comment with vague and general judgments and nothing about what you stand for you are highlighting how lost you are. Good luck finding your way!
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@scottashe984 When you make numbers that have no basis in reality don't expect any respect. Plus you provide no source which is further proof that you post fiction!!
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@bentolinmaddox9806 Says you. I have been around long enough to know what a scam or con or deception looks like on the large scale. Trump was all three!! And from where I sit you may "think" you know what's going on, but remember this old adage; "It is easier to fool a person then to convince a person that he has been fooled."
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@WildWestTrail Nor do I though like anyone using common sense I take every precaution to limit my exposure to unnecessary risk. Thus it was common sense to me to wear a mask when in an enclosed place to prevent myself from catching the coronavirus from someone else while reducing the likelihood of giving the virus to someone else. And further I have been vaccinated for the same reason which provides me better protection from exposure to the virus as well as making it much less likely that I will transmit it someone else. This is well understood by 99.9 % of doctors in this country.
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@zmercer1234 I don't see how, but you have completely mischaracterized where I stand on this pandemic. I have been committed to wearing a mask indoors since this pandemic began find wearing a mask to be a minor inconvenience. Cases are spiking again with the new Omicron variant on the rise so mask wearing indoors continues to be a good idea.
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@esclavodelsistema9783 My only response to your comment can only be as follows: 😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣
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@thomasjefferson182 Here is a good analogy to better understand our current circumstance. Every year for decades young kids are required to vaccinated for certain infectious illnesses. Measles, mumps etc because without those vaccinations then there is the risk of an outbreak which could develop into an epidemic. By the same token people all over the world have been asked to take certain precautions to prevent the spread of the Sarscor2 virus e.g. wearing a mask, isolating. And when the vaccine became available people were encouraged to get vaccinated just like kids were and are still getting vaccinated and for the EXACT SAME REASON! And that is of course to reduce the spread of disease. And it has worked very well to the degree that people did get vaccinated. It's true that some who were vaccinated died of Covid, but that was usually because they were immune compromised in some way. The vast majority of people who died of Covid since vaccinations started are those who were not vaccinated. Many months into the vaccination program despite the evidence that shows that unvaccinated people are far more likely to die of Covid people still continue to resist getting vaccinated. If you went to your doctor invariably he would encourage you to get vaccinated. So not getting vaccinated or wear a mask or whatever is recommended because the government is telling you to is missing the point. It the doctors and epidemiologists who are telling the government here are the standards to stop the spread of this infectious virus. And then here is the vaccine that people should get to protect themselves as well preventing the spread of the virus which always increases the likelihood of serious illness or death.
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@nelsonbran4628 The interesting thing about this video is that each of the main opposing perspectives can use this video in supporting their own point of view. Using the covid pandemic as an example the group that is defiant of following the government's recommendation to deal with reducing the spread of the virus think the government is misleading and even lying to the public. So by believing this to be true this group chooses not to confirm to the government's direction to the public or at least protest it vigorously. On the other hand there are those who believe what the government is saying about the pandemic and are willing to follow the government's direction to limit the spread of the virus and thus hopefully help to slow and ultimately end the pandemic. And those people had a much lower mortality from covid because they followed the government's advice as well as the health professionals who recommended these precautions. So who is right in this circumstance?? To start with the government didn't originate the plan of mask wearing, isolating when infected and getting the vaccine. That all came from health professionals and epidemiologists who understand the spread of infectious diseases and how best to confront what became a global pandemic. There is evidence from all over the world that this pandemic has killed over FIVE MILLION people and to slow and end this pandemic we end to take precautions e.g. masking, isolating vaccinations, etc. So the government is following the direction of many medical professionals. China is taking far more extreme measures in parts of their country which would not be accepted in any other country outside China. And there is precedent for these actions. In 1918 there was an outbreak of an aggressive flu which killed hundreds of thousands in this country alone. The areas that followed medical recommendations had a lower mortality rate. Those that ignored the recommendations had a high mortality rate. Then is there is the precedent for vaccinating children against the various childhood infectious diseases. e.g. measles, chicken pox, pertussis, etc. Parents that get their kids vaccinated rarely have any problems or reactions to the vaccines. Parents who don't vaccinate their kids increase the risk of their kid being caught up in a infectious outbreak as happened a few years ago at Disneyland when there was a measles outbreak. And people can die from measles in serious cases. So the people who say they are not conforming to the government guidance to take the recommended precautions risk getting infected, sick and even dying from covid. In fact most of the people who have died from covid we're not vaccinated. Many of those were conservative talk show hosts adamantly opposed to getting vaccines. They regretted that decision on their deathbed. Chew on that for a while.
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@leocow9728 To each his own. We are each entitled to our opinion and respect you for stating yours in a civil manner
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@lukematthew613 My last comment on this thread was 2 years ago. I have no clue what you are responding to.
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