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Comments by "Michael Deierhoi" (@michaeldeierhoi4096) on "'The emergence of a third party is among us' - Interview with Lincoln Project Co-Founder Rick Wilson" video.
@daviddevault8700 There is way more to it then just saying that trump is the result of the parties failing. The whole country has failed in doing it's part to maintain a healthy democracy. I failed you failed we all failed to do our part. Democracy is meant to be PARTICIPATORY GOVERNMENT you know "of, for and by the people" afterall. Too many people think that democracy is just showing up to vote, but it is much more then that.
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And trump didn't stand for any of those values you just listed because as a narcissist he would only recite such values to serve his higher goal of pandering to people to sound like he cared about them. Then proceed with tearing another foundational structure in the country down like the EPA or the Intelligence agencies.
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Everyone who speaks in a public forum has an agenda of some sort so your comment doesn't say anything. His agenda is to lay out the reality of misinformation campaign that was accelerated under trump though really started by Reagan and continued by others. Even some democrats played a part in that, but nothing compared to the deceit practiced by republicans. There's a story that needs retelling!
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You kids don't appear to have anything, but insults and baseless accusations. Where for example is there any mention of socialism in anything Rick Wilson said in this interview? And what has Antifa or BLM done that justifies your implied judgment? The problem here is that you have so completely bought into the trump rhetoric with charged words like socialism and making insulting remarks that you lost the capacity of any discriminating observations or insights about whom you disagree with.
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@Ambient_Inspiration You said "The things that democrats say they want for us are amazing, but to date has only been lip service". And when you say that you have to remember that Democrats were and are up against the ever obstructionist republicans. And when combined with their voter suppression over the last 3 decades which has been increasing strident, republicans have maintained control in Congress and the WH well beyond where they should have been in a more balanced system. In many ways America is far behind the rest of the world from the lack of high speed trains to the bloated military which bounces from one misguided foreign conflict to another wasting trillions and lives in the process. The expansion of drone use in the Afghanistan conflict was perhaps the biggest failing of the Obama administration so democrats definitely have their glaring short comings too. Having said that the US is moving toward some more positive policies and civility and it will interesting to see if republicans choose to work with Biden more then they did Obama which would be for the good of the country. And lastly I have to point out the flawed charge of Democrats embracing socialism without a qualifying statement. The US has had what could be called socialist policies for several generations which have been embraced by both conservatives and liberals and independents such as social security, Medicaid and Medicare and even libraries oh my gosh! So when they people throw out that socialism label it is always used as a negative or insult without explaining what is so bad about being socialist. After all most of Western Europe is democratic socialist which includes universal health care. The big result there is people are not bankrupted by medical debt which is a major cause of bankruptcy in the US. The opposition to single payer or universal healthcare is based solely on this perception that it is socialist. But the opponents have no alternative to the current failed system which is bankrupting this country. Conservatives in this issue and others define themselves by what they OPPOSE which means they don't stand for much. In fact they aren't even willing to have an honest dialog. Consequently, we stumble forward in halting steps when we could be coming together so much better.
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@Camaro sunrise. That's seems rather bigoted seeing as how trump was a dictator want a be from the start. He wanted nothing less than total power in the WH. That's why he cozied up to all the authoritarians in the world!
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@chriskimbro1453 If you have to ask then you aren't paying attention. Experience is an attribute if used wisely. I was born during the administration of Eisenhower who was one of the last true republicans. That was 12 presidents ago if we include president elect Biden. I could easily write a 1000 word essay on the positives and negatives of presidential politics. But I'll save you a boring read and just say that Biden brings to the WH a lot qualities trump knew little if anything about. This includes things like experience 47 years in Congress and the WH as Vice president. Civility, an attention to diversity in his staff that looks like America as well as competent staff. Look at trump often insulting and dismissive of anyone who wasn't loyal to him. And trump often chose staff unqualified for their position like Betsy Devos. That is just a snapshot of the more inspiring mood that Biden brings to the WH come Jan 20.
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How can THAT be when trump is so corrupt? And the evidence for his corrupt behavior is quite extensive throughout much of his life. Only if you deny the massive amount of documentation on trump's corruption can you create this fantasy that he is some kind of person with integrity and competence!
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True a third party would be highly beneficial in the US unfortunately the establishment republicans and democrats have created a barrier prevented 3rd parties from ever getting a foothold which is why the Green Party never gained much traction. And what we don't need is a party of disinfranchised trump voters who buy into conspiracy theory and the deceit promoted by trump.
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@andonemore8077 trump's own actions spoke very loudly as to what wanted. Add to that trump's dismissive language toward our allies while giving praise to authoritarian leaders says it all. This has nothing to do with MSMNBC or CNN because trump's own words and actions indict him. Thank God trump is gone from the WH in less 3 weeks!!
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@Brenda Creamer. . What do you mean second term? There is no second term for trump. He lost. The states certified their results. And the Electoral College voted for Biden as president. And that grand standing by Senator Hawley won't go anywhere because Democrats control the House. Game over for trump. trump is a loser in the worst way because he couldn't even accept he lost with any dignity. A good leader accepts loss when it happens which is the antithesis of trump.
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@ang5035 Yeah, it does look that doesn't it.
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@MerBreak35100. In what way is Rick Wilson preaching hate? Give an example. If you can give an example you might gain a little credibility.
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@ДанилаБабич-е2р In other words it went right over your head. Got it. You know you could have just said that.
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@MrBreak35100 Here's your reality check. We are a country of immigrants and immigrants have benefited this country far more then not. Besides that immigrants are a reality and they aren't going away. Xenophobes like trump are regressive in their thinking and can't handle change. And this is not about allowing an "open borders" policy with immigrants which was one of the many lies that trump tried to label democrats with.
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There are numerous examples of right wing groups showing up at protests and invariably they are the only ones armed. Often people have been shot by those people caring weapons. Then there was example of the extremist group which was planning to show up at the Michigan statehouse and kidnap the governor and behead her. Some of these misguided adults showed up at the Michigan statehouse fully armed which was clearly intended as an intimidation tactic.
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@karenbennett3662 Thank you, but unfortunately the trumpers can't see it for what it was!
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@Dom Yegwa. Sorry, Dom, but that was utter krap. Trump was all about saying what people wanted to hear in order to get their support. Trump pandered to Chistians, but frequently misquoted the Bible. Of course he never read the Bible, but merely recited passages he heard from others and he was bad at that. Trump is a fraud and a con and he was very good at conning people after all he persuaded over 70 million to vote for him.
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Funny how 60 lawsuits by trump and his entourage of attorneys couldn't find any evidence of voter fraud. Even in republican run Georgia trump tried to get the lie out to the more gullible and sycophantic followers that voter fraud happened in that state's election. And he never produced any evidence of ANY voter fraud!! Even his own AG, Bill Barr said there was no evidence of voter fraud that could have affected the election in trump's favor. trump is a narcissist and such people are inherently poor losers.
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Vlad the Inhaler Like Steny Ethan Mathews said to another commenter before yours "you need to be more nuanced and critical in your thinking". This could easily apply to you. Without a nuanced perspective and a sense of the relative corruption or incompetence of Trump for example vs anyone else in the US government then you are looking at the problems that Trump has created with blinders on or worse a "whatever he does is fine man" attitude which is synonymous with saying nothing. Get the picture??
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It appears to be due to several factors. For one because trump has projected this apparent concern for the average American and he'll fight for them he has gained an awful of followers. But it is really a con because most of that charade is his tough guy talk which completely collapses when he gets called out at news conference by women for example. Anyway a lot of people conveniently ignore his failings and buy into this image of trump as some kind of crusader against government. The result is other repubs don't want to oppose him because trump would publicly shame them and have them primaried by a trump supporter. So trump operates through intimidation and tearing others down to build himself up. There is more to it then that, but is some of what is going on.
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@Keith Shaw Meaning what exactly?
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@IWantMyCountryBack2 Regardless of the way that those two SCOTUS nominees were treated back then to still resent and mistrust democrats now as though these candidates haven't changed is not fair to them and makes you appear unable to accept that people change. After all how would you like to be held to standard of being rejected for something you did decades earlier. By that standard we would all be in trouble. People and politicians need to be judged on their CURRENT or recent merits or lack thereof and not judged as if their past from decades ago necessarily defines forever.
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@IWantMyCountryBack2 By the way I like Don Lemon because I find his nature to be assertive, direct and fair. I am too busy though to watch him much though partly cuz I don't even have a TV! And by the way I am more aligned to Democracy Now and knowledgeable people like Noam Chomski and Richard Wolff all of whom frequently criticize the mainstream media for often flawed or inadequate coverage.
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@Keith Shaw Okay I admit to a misuse of the word. I would have been better of having said nothing. I was on a roll posting comments that day and a couple times I got carried away with an impulsive response which is of course is never a good idea.
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@Keith Shaw Same to you. Have a good year.
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@KAWAII AVRIL. Too bad you couldn't think of even one example which doesn't say much for your claim of him being one sided.
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Why do you bother posting when you couldn't present any reasoning or evidence to back up your claim? That is just like trump. He never had any reasoning or evidence for any of claims which makes sense because it is hard to come up with a reason and evidence for blatant lies. trump is con, that is all he understands.
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Really? How? Rick Wilson talked for most of that 15 minute interview and he spoke clearly. You haven't provided one example for your charge against him!
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