Comments by "craxd1" (@craxd1) on "Slavery in sub-Saharan Africa before the arrival of Europeans" video.

  1. What Simon was speaking of is the Utopianist's historical thought, which is completely incorrect. They even speak of taking us all back to the days of Adam (Adapa) and Eve (who wasn't involved in the original story) to "live the good life," which never existed. What they don't understand is, Adam was listed as one of seven sages in Mesopotamia, and as the King of Eridu in their king's list. The utopianists can't escape "civilization" there, nor was his land a utopia either. The same can be said for pre-Adam, as a ruling hierarchy existed long before at the tribal level in Africa, the West Indies, and the Americas, etc. Utopianists are dreamers, who are always wanting something that never existed, and they're willing to make it up from thin air if needed.
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  2.  Trevour Howard  You might ought to read the historical record, especially about the thoughts of those such as Robert Owen and others, who thought that something such as a Garden of Eden, where everyone frolicked about free of authority, and in an agrarian culture, existed. It never did. Owen's claim, which was much like the rest of the utopianists that were tied to the Quakers and others, thought that there was a "Golden Age," where there was no ruling authority, and that everyone lived a free communal agrarian lifestyle, thus, their push for a vegan lifestyle. However, a ruling authority did exist with the cattle herders, who were the same people that domesticated the Aurochs and Horse, and they farmed as well. They, as a whole, were the jump from the hunter-gatherers. The herders also invented the wheel and wagon, which led to the invention of civilization. There was never a time in ancient history, or a golden age, where humans (Homo sapiens) lived communally, worked cooperatively, and did as they pleased, until you come to the time of pre-human existence, where they lived as a dumb beast like the rest of the animals. There was always a tribal hierarchy, and their Eden or Golden Age didn't exist.
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  3. That is the Utopianist's historical thought, which is completely incorrect. They even speak of taking us all back to the days of Adam (Adapa) and Eve (who wasn't involved in the original story) to live the good life, which never existed. What they don't understand is, Adam was listed as one of seven sages in Mesopotamia, and as the King of Eridu in the king's list. The utopianists can't escape "civilization" there, nor was his land a utopia either. The same can be said for pre-Adam, as a ruling hierarchy existed long before at the tribal level in Africa, the West Indies, and the Americas, etc. Utopianists are dreamers, who are always wanting something that never existed, and they're willing to make it up from thin air if needed.
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  4.  Trevour Howard  Comparing apples and oranges? That matters not.
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  5.  @LeftInBama  Yes, it was within every race, and every culture, going back into antiquity. The press seems awfully blind to it still existing today in several forms, while they only promote a pseudo-history that never existed as they claim. It's always about blaming the white culture. We still have outright slavery in places within several cultures, and labor exploitation in the east, where they're barely paid, and have no worker's rights. Again, it is the amoral internationalist elite that are behind both, and they make fortunes from it. That again reminds me of Robert Owen, who promoted his utopian dream, when, in fact, it was really about exploiting an entire family's labor in a workhouse textile scheme. The children were to be raised and taught (brainwashed) by the commune's teachers from birth. They even had a worker humiliation scheme set up in the mill, for those that didn't produce a set amount. If that kept up, the family was booted from the commune. Many bragged about how "profitable" the system was, especially the investors and owners. It gave Friedrich Engels his ideas about worker exploitation. The Frenchman, Gracchus Babeuf, had a similar hidden motive, when one reads about his ideology. The Mises Institute has a good article about this history, titled: "The Conspiracy of the Equals." Below, I quote one paragraph: "In the ideal communist society sought by the Conspiracy, private property would be abolished, and all property would be communal and stored in communal storehouses. From these storehouses, the goods would be distributed "equitably" by the superiors — apparently, there was to be a cadre of "superiors" in this oh so "equal" world! There was to be universal compulsory labor, "serving the fatherland … by useful labour." Teachers or scientists "must submit certifications of loyalty" to the superiors. The Manifesto acknowledged that there would be an enormous expansion of government officials and bureaucrats in the communist world, inevitable where "the fatherland takes control of an individual from his birth till his death." There would be severe punishments consisting of forced labor against "persons of either sex who set society a bad example by absence of civic-mindedness, by idleness, a luxurious way of life, licentiousness." These punishments, described, as one historian notes "lovingly and in great detail," consisted of deportation to prison islands." Babeuf would have been the head "superior" in his forced labor (enslavement) scheme. It always seems that anything the elite promotes as good, always has an underlying ulterior profit motive behind it for those few at the top, which is detrimental to the public at large.
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