Comments by "craxd1" (@craxd1) on "" video.
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jerry henrie
I am in high level Freemasonry, a 32nd as a matter of fact, and not one thing you have said, happens. As a matter of fact, The Scottish and York Rites are a rite you go through, once, unless you go back by sponsoring another to watch it again. It is a set of a few plays, over a weekend in the US, and that is all there is to it. You don't even take all the degrees, only a handful. Still, the 3rd degree is as high as you can go, and the other degrees really don't mean much at all. All the work and meetings take place in the blue lodge, the first three degrees.
The people who say that things happen in the higher degrees, like the conspiracy theorists, have no idea what they speak of, as its not as those take place every week, where a bunch of 32nd's get together, or that they are regular meetings. They are nothing but an extra rite, pretty much to brag about, and a set of one-time moral lessons. As a matter of fact, there are only 1-2 places, per state, to take the Scottish or York rites, where that pretty much knocks out everyone gathering for some sort of regular secret meeting, for the higher ups, so its out of the question. The conspiracy nuts don't tell you that. The only regular meetings, for everyone, is the Blue Lodge, or the first three degrees. Heck, the Shrine has more meetings that the Two rites do, by a whole lot. Most sates put the rites on about once or twice a year.
People like Bill Schnoeblen, Jack Chick, David Icke, and many others are downright liars, and are making money off those lies, as they know anyone who believes conspiracy tales will be suckered into their tales. They still quote the books written by Leo Taxil, in the late 1800's. which was a hoax against Freemasonry and the Roman Catholic Church. Taxil admitted to it, in front of the Catholic clergy, at a news conference in France, then made a speedy departure. Look up the Taxil Hoax. Schnoebelen claims to be a member of the Palladium, which Taxil made up, and there is no such a thing. It's funny that several preachers bring this up, too, and they know its a lie. If they don't, they shouldn't be preaching. Funny that some of those, are those Rolex wearing, Mercedes driving, TV evangelists too.
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They're a great group, but I don't have time to give to them at the moment. Also, here, you no longer need to be a 32nd to become a Shriner, they dropped that requirement. You do have to be a Master Mason, but after that, you can join. It takes about 6 months to a year to get your 3rd degree, as you have to learn and return your work, then be initiated, passed, and raised to the 3rd. Actually, you return your work between each degree. You can go onto being a 32nd, a year after you are a 3rd, but it is not mandatory. I did it to see the plays, to be honest, as they are really something to see. I also learned some good moral lessons.
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Larry Spiller
Anyone who would believe the hacked Turkish video, as actions of the Fraternity of Freemasonry, will believe anything, and I'd say, Kruger, probably believes the shoddy video.
I know you know, the same as I, that nowhere in the 33 degrees of Freemasonry, does that take place. Of course, you take the far-right Islams, who are against Freemasonry, then give them a camera, and it is easy to concoct a fake video, which any can tell that one was. Things like democracy, liberty, and freedom of religion are counter to their beliefs. One can show that, there, where the truth is censored, and one gets the picture.
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Mill Lumine
They have the Rite of Memphis in the US, but it is not a part of Freemasonry. You are correct that it is similar to the OTO of Crowley, and both springing from the Grand Orient of France, which are all irregular and clandestine in the eyes of the United Grand Lodge of England and the Grand Lodges of the 50 US states. They are the ones with the 99 degrees and so forth.
The last time I stopped by the RoMM's website, they claimed to be masonic, which they are in fact, not. This is the one all those women claim to have joined, and that nobody knows their work, (like its unpublished), and that they changed everything from the first degree on up. Well, I hate to tell them, if it is changed, it is NOT masonic.
The video in mention, is on here at several places, where they interviewed several real Freemasons, on top of those in the RoMM, and then a bunch of crackpots, ruining it.
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*****
The actual guilty like to point at fraternities such as Freemasonry, to deny that they played a part in the disasters. They redirect attention from their own crimes by doing it.
It is like Jim Marrs, who is not only making money from interviews and lectures over his conspiracy theories, but he deflects every wrong doing to the Freemasons, instead of the guilty of governments and religions who caused them. Jim likes to keep claiming the Illuminati is real today, and is part of Freemasonry, even though university scholars even say he's full of dung. Jim likes to marry every group to the Freemasons, such as the Illuminati, the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, the UN, and the list goes on. He and David Icke should get married, since both are nutty as a fruitcake.
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*****
Some don't know the difference between a college fraternity, and a multi-national mens fraternity, which sprouted from the oldest labor union in the world.
It is funny how Skull & Bones keeps coming up, even though Yale has many others, and some are said to be just as weird as the Bonesmen. There's the Scroll and Key, Wolfe's Head, Book and Snake, and many others who have obtained government jobs after uni. The conspiracy theorists think that the Skull & Bones are part of Freemasonry over their Jolly Roger and the number under it. The only tie, that I know of, was the way the Templars buried their dead. I wonder why Marrs and Icke keep leaving these others out?
Yale Societies from Wikipedia:
Skull and Bones, the oldest and most famous.
Scroll and Key, second oldest and wealthiest, occupies Moorish Beaux-Arts building.
Wolf's Head, third-oldest; largest compound on campus.
Book and Snake, occupies a replica Greek temple.
Berzelius, founded as the Colony Club in 1848 at the Sheffield Scientific School; tapped first African-American captain of an Ivy League football team.
St. Elmo's founded as Delta Phi Omicron in 1889.
Elihu began in 1903. It occupies a federal-era house on the perimeter of the New Haven Green. Elihu was the first non-secret "senior society.
Aurelian Honor Society, founded 1910, first society to tap women. Oldest existing Honor Society at Yale.
Torch Honor Society, founded 1916. Second oldest existing Honor Society at Yale.
Manuscript Society occupies a modern building and garden by noted architects.
Mace and Chain youngest tomb society. Founded in 1956, it occupies a 180-year-old house near campus.
Calliopean Society, founded in 1919 as a literary and debating society, became a Senior Honor Society in the mid-20th century.
Red Mask, the oldest all-female society at Yale.
Linonian Society. Members include undergraduates and graduate students from Yale Law School, Yale Graduate School and Yale School of Management. Originally founded in 1753, it was reconstituted after merging with the Yale Political Union in 1934, and stores its literary collection in Yale's Sterling Memorial Library.
Cup and Crown.
St. Anthony Hall, founded 1867, only remaining three-year society. Although outsiders may enter the building and attend social events, part of the building is closed and retains the earmarks of a Yale secret society. The current (its third) building, when donated by a Vanderbilt in 1913, described by The New York Times as "the most expensive and elaborate secret society building in the United States.
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*****
Yes, you're totally correct.
I have had many try to argue me about the King James Version of the Bible, as I am sure you have, about it's origin. It was supposed to be a re-translation of the Catholic, but things were mis-translated, and some things very obviously changed. Of course, one can have this done, when one is a King, and declares his Bible the national Bible for his new national church.
As soon as I see someone hollering about lucifer, I know immediately that they are either Anglican - Protestant, and use the KJV. They try to say it is the only Bible, or they try to say it is the only correct Bible, when they know nothing about, and are ignorant to, the truth.
It is more of a sin to change original scripture, than to correctly interpret and read the original work. It is also a sin, by many ministers, who claim that Isaiah 14:12 speaks of Satan, when it is, in fact, speaking about the fall of the King of Babylon. I can't say that all Protestants do this, as I have heard the Methodists and Lutherans read the verse correctly. However, every time someone repeats this mis-translation, or downright lie, they are bearing false witness to everyone.
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Daniel Allen
That is baloney, and everyone in the Freemasons, especially a Master Mason, knows it. The deal with the hidden truth was in Pike's imagination, and nobody agrees with it, just as the preface of his book says, if you don't agree, then you don't have to.
I quote from the preface:
"Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound."
Anyone who is a Master Mason has access to their lodges library, which includes the complete rites for both the Scottish and York Rites. They are there to read, so nothing is hidden.
There are only three degrees in Freemasonry, and that is as high as you can go, which is the blue lodge. The other degrees are not higher, but are side degrees which are educational one-time degrees only.
Albert Pike did not speak for Freemasonry, and he sure didn't decide how it was ran, since he was born way after it was founded. At that, he didn't join and obtain his 32nd until after the Scottish Rite had been founded for 90 years. What he wrote, in Morals and Dogma, was his own philosophy and dogmatic views on the different esoteric religious meanings worldwide, which are used in the degrees. At this, it was only for the southern jurisdiction of the US, not the northern US, Canada, the UK, or any other country. He was not as important as you seem to think.
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Jim Shaw is a doosy. He saw others making money even back then, by writing fictitious ramblings and using religion as a cover, so he figured he would quit the Freemasons, and then declare he had been a 33rd, and claim that he had been a past master, which was, in fact, a lie, but the book made him some cash. Now, others quote from this as fact, knowing it has been debunked by Art deHoyos and S. Brent Morris, who did a thorough investigation on him.
Jack Harris was debunked too, and again, he was after book money. He saw the gravy train that the simple minded would pay out to read any lie and believe it. He is like Schnoebelen, in that he can never get his dates straight. I think Schnoebelen got his ideas partly from Harris.
Alex Jones is nothing but an opportunist, who is on the gravy train too, and does not care how many lies he tells, nor does he care who he allows to speak, claiming truth, even though one lie after another, leaves the ones he's interviewing, mouthes. Of course hes into UFO's and all other paranormal stuff too. Hmm, sounds like Schnoebelen.
David Icke, I believe, is either certifiably nuts, or is on heavy medication. Though, he is on the gravy train, and getting paid handsomely by the simpletons following him around. He and Jones probably hit it off real well.
Then we have Rabi Bill Schnoebelen, ex-Catholic, ex-Mormon, ex-Satanist, ex-Mason, ex-vampire, and preaches to his congregation that werewolves and vampires are real.
I wonder how many of these simpletons, who listen to these folks, have ever did a background check on them? I think I'll help them out.
Jim Shaw:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/shaw.htm
Jack Harris:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/harris.htm
Alex Jones (Yes, he is this idiotic):
http://rt.com/usa/alex-jones-breivik-masons/
David Icke:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/icke.htm
Bill Schnoebelen:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm
And, look here too:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/people.htm
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Mr Kruger
I can most assure you, that NO sacrifices are made, or even acted out, in Freemasonry, nor in the two appendant bodies of the York and Scottish Rites. The Turks, who made the video, have been Islamic for many years, and they hate anything that is not Islam. They do not care to strap a bomb to themselves, for Islam, so do you not think that they would not lie for it? When you see the shoddy scene shift, in the video, that tells it all.
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Spetsnaz Pocomaxa
You have a book that you are not educated enough to understand, nor understand who used it, nor what it actually is.
Morals & Dogma was a personal philosophy of different religious beliefs written by Albert Pike. He copied many different works, some say plagiarizing a few, to show all these differences, and his personal opinion, not that of the Scottish Rite nor Freemasonry.
The Scottish Rite was founded before Pike was born, and he didn't join until in his 50's, when not long after, did he write the book about his own studies into religion.
Now for the truth of the book, I will give you a link to a page, which quotes from a book by John J. Robinson, titled A Pilgrim's Path. Robinson is who anti-masons like to quote, from another of his books, in which they get it all wrong, especially Robinson's views on Freemasonry.
Quote from A Pilgrim's Path, about lucifer and Pike:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/lucifer.htm
The entire quote starts at 'Albert Pike and the Morning Star'.
Anytime anyone mentions lucifer, I can be assured it is out of context and completely wrong. You can thank the Anglican Church, and the Bible they produced, the King James Version, for that. They had translators who were not the best at what they proclaimed to be. They are just now removing the word, lucifer, from those very Bibles on new printings.
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Daniel Allen
Because he did step in, and help the AASR during it's early days, along with donating a good bit of money. However, every Freemason knows that Pike did not speak for Freemasonry, as a whole, and never did, including Pike himself. If anyone would care to read the preface, to Morals and Dogma, the first edition, Pike says that if anything that he compiled, (over half was others work), does not set right with the reader, to ignore it.
"Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound".
Leo Taxil latched onto Pike taking a poke at the word lucifer, since Pike actually understood what the word really meant. However, Taxil claimed that Pike was the grand wizard of Satan worship at Charleston, over it, in his hoax against Freemasonry and the Catholic Church. Finally, after 12 years of this, Taxil made a public confession, before the clergy, in France, and did a runner. Now, and since then, the Catholic Church admits to being duped by Taxil, but many still quote and use his hoax.
To paraphrase Pike, on the word lucifer, where he was poking fun at the Anglicans misunderstanding of the word, he said it was funny that lucifer was used to denote darkness, when it most assuredly meant light, and in fact, it does. The word, lucifer, means light or constellation, in Latin, which was a translation made by St. Jerome, in the Latin Vulgate. The Jews say the Hebrew word, that it describes, means morning star. Jesus was even called the morning star. The KJV Bible thumpers have had it wrong, since the reformation, even with Luther and Calvin, along with the Jews and Catholics, trying to tell them better. Even we Freemasons know better.
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Daniel Allen
What got this started was a man by the name of Marie Joseph Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pagès, who's pen name was Leo Taxil. Taxil was placed in a Jesuit seminary, at five years old, and by adulthood, despised the Catholic Church. He wrote several degrading books about the Catholics.
Next, Taxil joined a lodge of Freemasonry, but was kicked out. Here, Taxil began to hate the fraternity just like the church.
Finally, Taxil told the church that he had changed, and that he had information that Freemasonry was worshiping Satan. The church, and the Pope, ate this up, and financed his new books. These books are where the lie about Pike and Freemasonry bloomed. Taxil even went to the point of forging a letter on Pike.
Last, Taxil had made it twelve years, taking advantage of the church, until a few bishops started to investigate his claims. When he saw that he was about to be caught, and before the church could cover up what he had done, he called a press conference, claiming to finally present a woman, who he said was giving him his information on Freemasonry. Instead of producing her, he told the press, and the assembled clergy, that it had all been a lie, and a hoax. He even quoted letters from the church, and poked fun at the religious leaders who sent them. After this, Taxil did a runner out a side door.
Funny enough, many ministers, especially several TV evangelists, still quote Taxil, even though everyone has known of Taxil admitting to the hoax, and fraud, since the 1890's. Bill Schnoebelen, who now claims to be a Rabbi, claims he was a member of the Freemasonry Palladium, which Taxil admitted to being fake, and never existed. Of course, Bill claims to have been a 99 degree Mason, an ex-vampire, ex-catholic, ex-mormon, ex-satanist, and says that werewolves are real too.
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*****
Yes, they are religious zealots, who claim they know all about Freemasonry, but are ignorant of it, or even lie about us, in the name of their religion. I highly doubt, 1 out of 1000, even know what was in the Papal Bull, back in the early 1700's, that declared Freemasonry heretical. If they knew how many human rights we now have, that the Pope was then against, claiming those rights were heretical beliefs, because Freemasonry supported them, then they might change their tune. The sad part is, that it bled into all the other different churches.
I know of some Baptist church ministers, who agree with the Papal Bull, where nobody would have any kind of rights, such as liberty and freedom of religion, or receiving outside education, and they are for the church running the state. That was even mentioned in A Pilgrim's Path, I believe, and it still holds true today. Liberty University was started to install Baptist lawyers and judges within the government.
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Yes, and if someone tells them about Taxil being a fraud and a liar, they seem to not hear it at all, as they'll continue to tell the lie to all who will listen to it. Just look at Chick Publications. At least the Catholics admit to being duped by Taxil. The problem that we have, in the US, is those that say, "well, if my TV evangelist said it was true, then you're a liar, as I know my evangelist would never lie to me". During the time they mutter that sentence, the TV evangelist is lining his pockets, with their money, to buy another Mercedes.
The comedy singer, Ray Stevens, wrote a song that perfectly fits TV evangelists, and it was titled 'Did Jesus Wear a Rolex'. Of course, that watch might be too cheap for some of them.
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Spetsnaz Pocomaxa
You really have no idea of the truth. Nobody, even at the time Pike wrote that, agreed with it. I knew about the Scottish and York Rites when I became a Master Mason, and what they were about. Any Master Mason can read anything in the lodges library.
Albert Pike did not speak for Freemasonry as a whole, and only wrote his philosophy about what he thought about the religious influences on the degrees of the Scottish Rite. Since you say you read his book, then why did you leave out what Pike said in the preface?
Preface:
"Everyone is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound."
Maybe, you read the ones online, that always delete the preface, so people fail to read the truth? You know, the ones that are hosted on anti-masonic websites. Or, did you just read a quote, giving the page number, such as many anti-masons like to publish?
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*****
Here, we have the KKK, Neo-Nazi's, and the Aryan Nation, so one can take their pick. There's other groups, too, that push hate propaganda, and those claim to be religious. They all like to blame Freemasonry for their troubles, when it's them that are corrupt in nature. Propaganda (lies), support prejudiced persecution, just like the SS and Hitler.
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Nigel Perren
Firstly, Freemasonry has no pyramid, that you allude to. What it is, in fact, are two sets of stairs, meeting over an arch, and those, sit on a porch. Both sets of stairs join at the top, the 33rd position, and each stair set has a different number of steps. The 33rd step does not have an eye over it either.
The pyramid, with the eye of providence, is actually a Christian religious symbol, just as is the Great Architect of the Universe. Conspiracy theorists are either too ignorant to know that, or they deny it, and lie to the readers.
I happen to know that Simon is about as far up, as you say, anyone. I, myself, am a 32nd, in the Scottish Rite, and Simon is sitting high in the York, in the UK.
Before you say we don't know what the 33rd entails, we do, as do many others who have read the ritual and monitor for each rite.
Last, no Mason is ever lied to. Any Master Mason has free access to the lodges library, and there, in the bookcases, set the ritual and monitors for it all. The 1st to the 33rd degrees.
Albert Pike was full of bologna, when he made the comment that the blue lodge didn't know what the red lodge did. He was off about a few things, but his knowledge of history was from the civil war era, and the discoveries of ancient history, since then, have changed many things. Morals & Dogma, Pikes personal philosophy, is about as useless as tits on a boar hog.
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Oh, no doubt, the sick bastard got what was coming to him. I wish the others, of his ilk, had received the same early demise.
The US government had psychiatrists to profile Hitler, by interviewing those who knew him, even as a child, such as the Hitler family doctor. What came from it, was that when Hitler was a toddler, he was a diaper digger, (liked playing in his excrement), had a mommy fetish, and was into S&M sex, with his so-called niece. He wanted her to squat over his face, and urinate on him. So, it does not surprise me, that he picked the same sort as he, for the SS, as they said all of them were psychopaths. After the war, they said the profiling was amazingly accurate, when it was used to sense how Hitler would act during the war. They supposedly profiled the other heads of the SS, too.
The bad part, was the two towns the Germans razed, over Heydrichs death.
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