Comments by "" (@arturferrao7353) on "Why Hateful Anti-Trans Bigots Are Going To Lose" video.
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@Disaletteritis "allegedly that is not allowed...or is it?"
If it is consensual, it's not. Kids can't get consensual gender afirming treatment, much less surgery. In places that transgenders aren't persecuted they can get social transitioning and hormone blockers. And with several years being follow-up and some luck, they get hormone therapy. Trans kids can't get any kind of surgery before 16th birthday, and even so, only very rarely.
But the fun part is: In the USA, most of transphobic laws have clauses that allow non consensual sex reasignment surgeries on toddlers.
So... Yes, sex reasignment surgeries are allowed if they are for non trans kids, non consensual, harmfull and in transphobic american states.
The fundament for my claim:
More than two-thirds of the bills introduced this year that would ban gender-affirming care for transgender youth have specific intersex exemptions. The controversial exemptions allow doctors to assign minors who are born with secondary sex characteristics as “male” or “female” through surgeries, hormones or other interventions.
“So you’re saying that trans kids are too young to consent, but intersex kids aren’t?” asked Bria Brown-King, director of engagement for the intersex rights group InterAct. “How does that make sense?”
Source: PBS NEWS HOUR -> Most state bans on gender-affirming care for trans youth still allow controversial intersex surgery
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@Disaletteritis And:
Transgender youth experience high rates of victimization, verbal harassment, and cyberbullying. For example, one study found that 58% of a sample of transgender adolescents reported experiencing victimization in school. We know that victimization and lack of acceptance are associated with suicidal behavior among both transgender adolescents and adults, and with suicidal ideation and suicide attempts among transgender youth. However, research has shown that even minor acts of acceptance, such as using a transgender adolescent’s chosen name and pronouns, are linked to positive outcomes, including reduced depressive symptoms, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal behavior.
Other important aspects of transgender people’s mental health, such as depression, can be improved by access to gender affirmative psychotherapy or medical interventions, although research in this area is limited. One study found that when transgender adolescents were given hormone blocker medications to suppress puberty and then provided with gender confirming medical interventions in later adolescence, their body satisfaction increased and their rates of depression decreased. Future research should explore whether hormone blocker medications that suppress puberty specifically reduce risk for suicidal ideation and behavior among transgender youth, including the effects of the intervention on gender identity and adolescent development, weighing the ethical considerations inherent in providing treatment. The Endocrine Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health support puberty suppression, in conjunction with comprehensive mental health care, as a safe and effective treatment for transgender adolescents.
Source: YSRC -> Transgender Youth and Suicidal Behavior: How Can We Mitigate Risk?
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@CarterDavis-nu6ey Here's the sources for my claim:
“State legislation in the US that targets transgender youth is also harming intersex youth,” said Erika Lorshbough, executive director of interACT. “When lawmakers propose and pass explicit exceptions for surgeons to operate on intersex bodies before the patients themselves can consent, it makes it clear that these bills are about erasing bodily diversity, not protecting anyone.”
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Children with intersex variations are often subjected to “normalizing” surgeries that are irreversible, risky, and medically unnecessary. These surgeries are performed without the patient’s consent, most often taking place in infancy or early childhood. Surgeries include procedures to reduce the size of the clitoris, create or enlarge a vaginal opening, reroute a working urethra, or remove the gonads. These surgeries are justified by decision-makers on the grounds that they will reduce stigma and prevent gender dysphoria, but they often have the opposite effects, and also carry risks of scarring, loss of sensation, lifelong sexual dysfunction, urinary incontinence, psychological trauma, and permanent sterilization.
Source: Human Rights watch -> US: Anti-Trans Bills Also Harm Intersex Children
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@Disaletteritis "he issue with having children change genders is their brains aren't fully developed. "
The same can be said about transphobics.
And here is the real effect of transitioning:
Adjusted multivariate analyses revealed greater odds of suicidal ideation (adjusted odds ratio (aOR), 3.86; 95% CI, 2.67-5.57; p < 0.001) and suicide attempt(s) (aOR, 5.52; 95% CI, 3.45-8.84; p < 0.001) before gender-affirming treatment compared to after [39]. Odds were adjusted for age, education, and gender-related discrimination. Potential interactions of psychiatric diagnostic history, psychiatric treatment after gender-affirming treatment, substance use, or time elapsed since gender-affirming treatment initiation were not evaluated.
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Patients who received all of their desired surgeries had lower odds of suicidal ideation (aOR, 0.44; 95% CI, 0.38-0.51; p < 0.001) and suicide attempt(s) (aOR, 0.44; 95% CI, 0.28-0.70; p < 0.001) compared to those who desired gender-affirming surgery but had not received any. No interactions of history of mental health treatment besides gender-affirming counseling, substance use history, or time elapsed from surgery were utilized as potential confounders for initial and post-hoc analyses.
Source: Jackson D (March 20, 2023) Suicide-Related Outcomes Following Gender-Affirming Treatment: A Review. Cureus 15(3): e36425. doi:10.7759/cureus.36425
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