Comments by "Kathy Bramley" (@kathybramley5609) on "Why Japan's Homeless are Different from North America's (Part 1)" video.

mozartjpn137 There was a man who ate shop waste and cleaned our church yard, as he apparently did in any church yards he used for shelter and to give back to the town. Apparently he had a house he owned with his brother but was struggling to sell and had lived that way for years. There may be more to the full story, but he was an old-school gentleman tramp.
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According to the history books, reading between the lines or not, every culture is a right old mixture of cruel and kind. Forces at work are never 100% fluffy. Institutions are not all good, and their impacts are interpretable depending on which outcomes you rate positively, which costs you devalue, ignore, downgrade, minimise the importance of in your mind. Perhaps there is a spectrum of approaches which have trade offs and complete untruths and perspectives which are ignored or warped certain ways. Passion and understanding and structural issues like who helps, who tempts and how these are accessed make certain things a good idea at the time. I don't think this conversation makes any culture better or worse.
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Life Where I'm From Cool convo. Do try and have accurate compare/contrast with analogue in Western society. Although the style of it and quality and reasoning will be cultural there's similar cycles and traps in western society, often exacerbated by intersections of identity and culture that create or further relate to their marginalisation
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grumpybill Well, the ethics of euthenasia even in animals is one topic that's VERY hotly debated and can produce sharply differing views. Perspectives on consent, life, suffering, whether there are circumspect or more individual assessment of impacts, and views on intervention all combine into conscientiously and qualitatively different opinions and analyses.
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This is way off topic: what is productive and constructive about comparing war records. In terms of who blames who how much right now. Text is sometimes limited and escalating as a medium. War is always dirty. No such thing as an innocent war. I'm glad the war crimes consensus exists to the degree it does now, but it seems wrong that officers are valued more than other lives, and that all deaths and disablement is not treated equally with death being worse or better under certain circumstances. Government expecting people to commit suicide under some circumstances, all sides did in WW2 as far as I know, and martial law shootings for desertion of our own side seem like war crimes to me, just as much as not using minimum force per objective, and not considering the value of the objective and all proposed means against the moral rules that apply outside of war. No war and few military strategists think without subterfuge ambition and a degree of ruthlessness and risk. But I think the expectations of war cloud thinking and close hearts and minds in respect to objectives and impacts, and lead to overstretch and viciousness in a kind of tunnel-visioned mania, and this is universal. The effect is overcome to a greater or lesser extent at different times, and because of preloading from happenstance. But my views may be very unusual. This world of the right and wrongs of war is so icky and complex. And high tenor, big deal, big ticket. I hate it. But people may sometimes retain some innocence with it. And all involved remain just people at the end of the day, no matter how we lionise or monster them in our memories and memorials.
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Allan Lamb: Japan's history is not unique in this regard. If someone wishes to continuously shame modern Japan [why not everyone else]!? ---- Couldn't agree more!!
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Let's stop responding to the complicated questions about the dynamics of homelessness with defensively invoking the yellow peril stereotypes. This could be a great sandbox moment, a playful operations room with a difference, unified on solving domestic problems that are universal. Real life, but as if it was a fictional scenario for thinking about changing things where we are for the better. Everything is the operative part of its own story, everything has antecedents, behaviour or action or importances in their features, and the consequences of these. ABC - like child/family/parenting technique, like a story with a of beginning middle and end. We can depersonalise these things and try to use compassion and rational understanding and creativity to compare and contrast and develop beyond western, Japanese and Indian perspectives, and the rest, without losing diversity or the organic nature of the problem solving solutions while also making the best of widely different perspective to show us new things, if we could just get our own heads straight to see things that way!!
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Was the OP sarcastic or simplistic!? Or perhaps both!? It doesn't matter. Or at least not as much as dealing with our world full of domestic matters, and lack of domicile.
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JenJen D It's a normal well intentioned assumption, some common cultural understandings of a difference in there plus some awareness they [those understandings] may be limited in your disclaimer, but have you ever heard of the Milgram experiments on obedience? Although it is not considered ethical to repeat them, my understanding is that it's considered universal or near universal. We could ask what the leadership were trying to be and why. I think high functioning autism is an interesting alternative state of mind that could be embraced rather than countered, ostracized or whatever, perhaps where we as people are less likely to be sensitive to the social pressure of authority and more likely to work on the basis of principles, so we could speculate that this could be useful and more formally arranged as a check or balance dependant on the views, value and stability of the individual. As the opposite, ruthlessness based on principles is also possible for everyone on the spectrum and not! (Though there's, as a side note, some possible connection between neurological differences and leadership qualities and political or spiritual/purposeful motivation, whether it be trained, acquired or congenital. But why I think that is long-winded to go into)
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MMedic Neither the US or UK has a "no man left behind" policy that applies to homeless and potentially homeless people. It's not person-centred, solution-focussed stuff, where neither failure nor disrespect of persons agency and consent are options.
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It's about how well those policies work and pushes and pulls towards or away from being able to access support. I don't know if anywhere manages a "nobody left behind" policy when it comes to homelessness and associated issues. Or if many places want to do that. The circumstances of service provision are a kind of gatekeeper. And they rarely work as advertised, or as you'd hope or expect at best. The homeless are discredited reporters of their own plight. Precious few believe or take their word, or you just don't hear that voice and it's not amplified in ways that can induce a no man left behind policy and practice that works. Could it be different!?
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Could it be different? World over? Treat domestic and individual problems not ruthlessly, but with more like a housekeeping/family minded approach? I think so. And meanwhile, I give limited amounts but something; amounts of time, recognition, money and consideration to the homeless. Up to them how they spend it. Human beings!
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grumpybill The best bit of Hildago was that he didn't shoot the horse, together with the fact he let him go run wild again at the end.
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jadenight0 hearing you there!
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Adventure Guy Don't simply believe the stereotype. Canada is still a western/modern nation with a military and a settler nation in the territory of an indigenous set of nations and not as good as its rhetoric.
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robert grubbs the image that kicks off the video here has panels on their tarp, and in the UK people will borrow friends' and charitable and businesses/public space charging facilities where they can. As will refugees. And phones can be very useful in unstable positions, when out and about even for anyone. Sometimes charging battery packs might be sold or have some currency I imagine. Your stance is faux-practical, the old chestnut debunked many times for me and on feeds I see in recent years. A concern that wants to believe what it wants to believe.
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Liz Greer yup? (that's just my name.)
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