Comments by "George Albany" (@Spartan322) on "Design Theory"
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Claiming that language is relevant here makes no sense, the premise suggests that its the culture, and a culture develops language and the language develops off the back of cultural needs, not the opposite way around, a culture does not change to suit a language, that makes little sense, this rather clearly suggests that language is downstream from culture, and there is no way for someone to separate the influence of culture and language except by having someone learn a new language well after they've root themselves in their culture, and there has been no case so far that anyone has demonstrated language instead changing how you think, at most its only demonstrated to change how you can express any thought because now you have additional manners to describe any specific thing. Else newspeak is in fact an effective manner to control people, which I don't see any example of that, the Hungarians, Germans, Romanians, and the Czechs all rebelled rather consistently under regimes that enforced newspeak, so as far as actual social "experiments" there is no case demonstrating a mindset change that validates the claims of those who support newspeak, which contributes against the presumption that language influences how you think.
Also I speak English, I have never spoken anything other then English, I have never even been outside the North East of the US, I have rarely if ever heard even someone utter an East Asian word physically near me, (and certainly I've never heard anything like Arabic, though I did one time visit a synagogue for a friend's bar mitzvah, but that was really short) and even online I have never heard anyone say anything in an East Asian language aside from watching subbed anime, which I can only read in English, I have put absolutely no time into studying another language. I never even watched anime until I reached my 20s, I still saw the hexagon as only being convex.
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