Comments by "Magnús Örn" (@magnusorn7313) on "Is Denmark Socialist? | 5 Minute Video" video.

  1. perfectly encapsulating the conservative thought process
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  2. you should if you are danish, but the video is not directed at you, in the video they only tell a half truth they manage to deny that denmark is socialist which is true, but the fail to state what it actually is a social democracy, is denmark calls itself they dont reveal the second part because that goes against what they want, they want t o glorify capitalism but they want to glorify THEIR version of it, not the version run here capitalism and socialism is not likes its on a and of switch, its just not that simple, there are variants, every country is their own variant of a system if they told the audience that the version of capitalism run in denmark was not the same version that is run in america they would be accepting that their system is the best just "because" and that there are changes which in the past they would have called "socialist policies" which in reality are just normal policies that could be run in a capitals or socialist society they dont want to be like denmrak
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  3. its amazing americans created this misconception in the first place its almost like it went like this the left suggest higher taxes and more welfare the right calls it socialism the left notices that social democracies have higher taxes and more welfare the left wants that the left says they want socialism when what they want is social democracy the right corrects them (half way) and tries to pass it off like they didnt start the myth
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  4.  @nubtor  that would still be more expensive for citizens than the danish system
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  5. ​ @jonathanrotem251  ah yes, because the word socialist is in there they must actually be socialist are you going to report my comment for hat speech is i say "bugger"? no? why not? maybes its because thats not a slur anymore maybe social democracies that exist now are not the same as the version that was first thought up however many decades ago "Social democracy originated as a political ideology that advocated an evolutionary and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism using established political processes" yes, that is what it used to be but what is it now? "Social democracy is a political, social and economic philosophy that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and a capitalist oriented mixed economy"
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  6.  @oldfashionrealamerican7458  Bernies policies strongly reflect social democracies the fact he says "democratic socialism" only shows how american he is as americans are all ill informed on political terms
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  7. bernie never said they are socialist get a grip our social democracies are better than your crony capitalism
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  8. less income inequality we dont have people who make a billion dollars in a week
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  9. its has 4 times the population density of the usa
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  10.  @b_uppy  "If Denmark is doing so great, it must contribute more than the US to the United Nation" because of agreements, its been agreed how much denmark should contribute, the US also agreed to how much they would contribute, but who actually held up their promises?
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  11. no, we are a social democracy socialism has a planned economy complete capitalism has a free market social democracy is a regulated market our market is good because its safe from abuse and corruption a planned economy cant adapt so it collapses when things change free markets get abused by the big companies regulated markets is adaptable so it wont collapse and is regulated to protect itself from corruption
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  12. what colonies did iceland have? oh wait it was a colony the only nordic country to really have colonies was denmark, and it was just a few islands that never brought any money in which is why they had to sell them because they where bankrupt this is like when people attribute the viking raids to modern Scandinavian wealth, its so stupid, if the country at any point after it went bankrupt that means that wealth is gone, and guess what, bankruptcy happened
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  13. private schools are basically run by the government as they provide most of its funding through subsidies
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  14. they arent socialist though, they on have planned economies
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  15. denmark has lots of unions which keep the wage up america does not have that, because the corporations control the government they can get the government to discourage unions
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  16.  @hotwax9376  i agree, but your point about the minimum wage is uninformed
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  17. its the right which started the myth of denmark being socialist becasue they didnt know waht socialism was
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  18. its both libtards and fascucks who are responsible for polluting american politics by not knowing what socialism is and using it to describe whatever they want to describe as socialism
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  19. do we have a planned economy?
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  20. well its market is more free than the american market but if its more "capitalist" well that depends on your definition of the word
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  21. ime
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  22. disposable income does not matter much when all of it goes into paying for basic necessities, education and healthcare
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  23.  @mirusvet  australia, norway and naions in southern africa huh, wonder what the link is
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  24. it was right wingers who started the denmark socialist myth denmark is a social democracy, in america socialism is used to describe anything that is not a corporate state, all of europe is socialist according to americans so correction, when you deal with americans its not just democrats who are morons, its all americans
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  25. "Adam Smith, the father of modern capitalism, had a pragmatic take on taxes. He argued they were essential to a well-run state and so everyone should be required to contribute" there now you dont have to read a book yourself
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  26. 50/50
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  27. never met an actual socialist that thought denmark was socialist it only american right wingers and "democratic socialists" that call denmark socialist these democratic socialists are in reality social democrats not socialists
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  28.  @raffiart5121  "Denmark is not socialist, no matter how much you repeat that." thats not what they are claiming "It’s a combination of different historical, cultural and societal factors which often determines which system works best for a society." then why do the states invade countries to make the capitalist puppets? "cherry picking a few things from the Scandinavian model and insisting that is socialism and that is what we want is absurd" i know, beacuse then you would be accepting the right wing created myth that denmark is socialist when its not, its a social democracy but saying america should be a social democracy is what should be done
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  29. @Urex the cost of living does not matter because you forget that they no longer need to pay for healthcare, education and lots of other stuff that you do, in the end it comes out to a similar number
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  30. ​@Urex yes, but that is not what is considered when looking at living wage "also in the US there free education and "similar" stuff" yea but you do it really badly because half your country wants it to fail because somehow that benefits them
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  31. ​@Urex 33%, yes but they have to use that 33% on healthcare and education and other services that are tax funded in denmark 57% of Americans don't have enough cash to cover a $500 unexpected expense essentially they would not be able to go to the hospital
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  32. it was right wingers that started the myth and it in no way actually damages the policies self proclaimed "socialists" in america have because their policies are still in line with social democracies
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  33. and america isnt vulnerable to propaganda?
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  34.  @dutchvanderlinde6906  leftist by american terms, by scandinavian terms social democracy is center
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  35. fair assessment, denmark things having a healthy and well population is more important than the rich getting richer
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  36. more freedom than in america
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  37. what does homogeneity have to do with feeloaders?
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  38.  @UnidadFamiliarCristiana  my friends in the workshop who are not native danes put in the same if not more effort than I the cozy small village my partners mother lives in has a pizzeria run by foreigners statistics show immigration to have a net beneficial economic outcome, its just the facts
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  39.  @UnidadFamiliarCristiana  " from a socialist country" from a country where the workers own the means of production? which one? "Being an immigrant and starting from nothing, the system we have in America is the ONLY system that has allowed me, and ANYONE who puts in the time, effort and energy , to achieve some kind of goal. We are free to achieve and accomplish much, but we are also free to fail!" the think you are talking about is social mobility, it is how easy it is to move up in socioeconomic class denmark ranks first place in social mobility, the american dream is easier realized in the nordics "This meritocracy rewards hard work and business acumen, but does NOT reward laziness, complacency or poor life choices." most wealth in the US is inherited, that is not a meritocracy
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  40. when the usa build roads using taxes did it make people less self sufficient? maybe it opened up trade to anyone and that lead to more people, towns grew, less of the people where farmers who grew their own food which means they where less self sufficient in a way, they had to buy their food its undetectable that these roads made people richer and people prospered more
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  41.  @KingAztek  "starts out" no, when it started out social democracy was about transitioning from capitalism to socialism through democratic means now social democracy is completely different so you could say it evolved AWAY from being sinister
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  42. new zealand is doing great so are the nordic countries those all got suffrage early but any excuse to be sexist
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  43.  @swmovan  do you have a source on that?
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  44. Her Majesty, the Queen!
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  45. social democracy is not socialist i agree that the video is bullshiting but denamrk is not socialist, it does not have a planned economy it does not have a free economy either it has a regulated economy thats what social democracy is
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  46. the right say that raising taxes in america is socialism despite saying that denmark is not socialist i agree, its not, but that means the first claim is a lie
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  47.  @VIKDR1  "Bernie Sanders is doing the misinforming" hes just an american using american lingo, in america democratic socialism means social democracy, you cant help it, one cant stop americans from being stupid "if you are not a Socialist I am not sure you should think you are a Leftist" im pretty sure leftist just means they are on the left
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  48. so you would rather may a large amount of money once than small amounts of money all the time that add up to less?
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  49. so you trust someone trying to make money from you as their main objective rather than someone who has no incentive other than keeping you healthy and they are cheaper?
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  50.  @ronki23  i have heard just the opposite, that in america its worse unless you have a crap ton of cash to spend on it i mean 57% of americans would not be able to even afford going to the hospital in the first place since they would not be able to cover a 500 dollar unexpected expenditure i have yet to see anyone show actual statistics on wait times all i have heard are individual stories, i have heard stories of long wait times from both sides every time i have asked for an actual statistic on these wait times i get nothing so i dont get where these claims are coming from how do you know? where did you hear it from? did you hear it from individual cases and assumed the whole system is always like that?
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  51.  @ronki23  "my family have been victims of all of the issues above" that answers nothing of what i asked or is it an answer to the last question as in you believe its widespread because of individual cases and you assume the rest is the same? "Anyway, you can always get insurance in America" they also have premiums, deductibles, copays, out-of-network, and other expensive medical equipment and care they pay for out-of-pocket
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  52. is there context to what you are saying or is its supposed to be garble?
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  53. how exactly did they word it
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  54.  @gloomwoodguard9527  did he use the specific term "socialist" written just like that?
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  55.  @gloomwoodguard9527  then hes just an idiot
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  56. no, thats norway
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  57. one word, social democracy
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  58. "Denmark is a communist country where the state owns everything and all citizens through the high tax" america has had higher taxes, and back then they where even more capitalist than they are now socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism all authoritarian, two socialist, one undefined, and the last one capitalist
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  59.  @UnidadFamiliarCristiana  social democracy is not free market, its regulated market with welfare, and its greatly out competing other models
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  60. ​ @UnidadFamiliarCristiana  wwow, every word you just said is wrong in my first reply to you i say "social democracy" which IS what the nordics are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ0DxR0SvQS46w5AaVetlvi8N8WcyOzqF social capitalism is not a model, it is an observational term to describe tends, its not linked to any ideology or policies "Socialism =the government takes over the means of production" that is not the definition AT ALL "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole" not the state, lots of socialist i know dont want a state at all! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism "and there's no private ownership" true but i hope you arent just repeating what someone told you and you understand the concept of personal property which only the ideologies of imperialism and egoism dont recognize "By this definition, Democratic socialism is just socialism that the people voted for." yes, by your own definition, im sorry buddy, thats not how definitions work, definitions are defined by how a word is actually used, and its very easy if you actually take the time to ask an american "democratic socialist" what policies they support that they describe word for word social democracy "What you are describing is a for of capitalism free of cronyism, with a social safety net" aka social democracy, there is a word for it, its an ideology that has been around for a long time and there is a social democratic party in almost every democracy, the largest exceptions being the two party states like the US
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