Comments by "Magnús Örn" (@magnusorn7313) on "The London Anarchist Group Squatting Mansions to Fight Homelessness" video.

the people shouldnt have to pay to get back what was stolen
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"but the anti-antifa news i watch only show me the bad stuff they do and portray it in a biased light so they must be bad"
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@julianfaranda do you believe in private property?
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just get a decent paying job as a person living on the streets easy as
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people who defend private property are statists
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you mean the immigration that is providing the necessary labor to make your nation not collapse under burden of the aging population? sure
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"Whereas, communism has led to the deaths of 100s of millions." not even a hundred million, the book that came up with the "100 million" number was denounced by the majority of its authors who stated the main author was obsessed with getting to there it even fucking counts the deaths of Nazi soldiers who died trying to invade the USSR as deaths caused by communism if we used the same logic when counting deaths caused by capitalism we would be close to at least half a billion china has brought a minimum of 500 million people out of poverty im not saying you are wrong to the core, dont get angry at me for telling you some facts, but just recognize that the shit you are saying is complete bullshit and go back to the drawing board
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too bad capitalism does not incentivise healthy living
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@tommynorthwood there are 33 developed nations, 32 have some form of universal healthcare, which do you think has better health statistics, the 32 with universal healthcare, or the one without? also communism is not the only thing you can go to without capitalism
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you know whats hard, having a shit childhood that lead to bad education and homelessness and somehow getting a job in that condition instead of talking down to the unfortunate you try walking in their shoes
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such cowards the men who stormed normandy, for all their "gusto" they kept their helmets on the whole time
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anarchism works about as well as any other ideology (other thank neoliberalsim of course, they are the most efficient at propagating) theres no communist, anarchist, capitalist or whatever society its all neoliberalism that is being combated via the forces of other ideologies you cant point somewhere and say a society is any of those
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@hughpaynes754 just go to a library, im sure you have the time to do that while you are trying to survive, and then take a job that pays dirt, and either work it while you are homeless or get an apartment that is an hour away minimum, and pay for transport because you cant afford a car, and then have no money left for food, simple as
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landowners are leaches
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yes, keep defending the statist cause
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hope you dont support fucking neoliberalism
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its a lot harder to get a job when youre homeless
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@NomadicCreatorMY what if your parents are abusive/druggies/dead or simply cant afford to host you? and with the housing crisis you would have to move out pretty far away from the center of the city where your job is and you cant afford a car so you have to pay for transport and that cuts into your income and you travel for hours a day going to a job you simply took because it bothered to accept you, you get paid dirt and you only eat store bought foo because you dont have the emotional or physical time to make food or even the time for that matter im sorry Gael, but some people will simply break under those conditions, conditions worse than that of the average medieval peasant if a society cant provide everyone with the means to live better than a serf did a thousand years ago, maybe things NEED to change
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embracing anarchy to own the anarchists...
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are you a fucking libertarian? you do know private property is a statist idea, dont you?
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@tomasleitao1775 ok, to "enforce" but how do you establish a piece of private land? there is no way to do so without land you dont need a state to enforce private land, but you would be enforcing what the state left behind, its like enforcing anything else the state left behind, you dont need the state to do so, but you would be for some fucked reason be worshiping the state thinking what they imposed on you is the ultimate way why have the borders as they are drawn now? why does it have to be as the sate carved the land? is it because you cant have private property without having a state created it in the first place? yes, you have some sort of stockholm syndrome, you dont want the state but are willing to fight to prolong the tyrannical system they created
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@tomasleitao1775 "Its not tyrannical when only the individual is necessary to protect it" so you support a neofeudal mad max setting where it is "might makes right" there are no laws except the ones i can enforce? so ones land is defined by what they say is their land, if they claim land you live on, well it depends who can enforce it, yea? "there is no need to talk about how you establish it in the first place" there is plenty of nationalized and empty land, many forests are sectioned off by nations as single units to say that you are fine with making to with what the state left for you is so cringe, its like "im too much of a baby to exist myself without living how the state told me to, but im also a hypocrite so i dont want the state" its fucking gross, its like saying "well we dont want a state, but we want to maintain the system of regulations they had on trade, its not like we will even need to remove them or create more, so will will just maintain it as it is" you have no real beliefs, you are a poser
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imagine being a tiny minority of the capitalist class? martin shkreli was from poor origins, people who defend the rich bring him up often, but you want to know what he did? he raised the price of life saving medication by 5000% because he valued additional profit more than peoples fucking lives
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@Teenar99 it does not matter if its a tiny number of people, or just a single person, you should look to make 5000% profit off of someone who needs the drug to live not everyone has insurance and not everyone can afford to get a prescription registered simply getting the documents that makes a drug you know you need to live to be prescription is not free, so i dont care if he provides it to plenty of people for free
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@Teenar99 "rightfully, reaping the benefits of their work." capitalism entire idea is the concept that people can get to the point where they can live entirely on the labor of others, if you reach the spot of owning enough stuff, stocks, property, businesses then you dont have to work, and in perhaps a fair system thats good enough, but when you factor in predatory business practices, inheritance, corporate federal meddling and other ills that plague the system its not about rightfully benefiting from your ow labor, its about creating hierarchy
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@Teenar99 "rightfully, reaping the benefits of their work." you mean social democracy like we call it . " is the fairest economical system humans have ever come up with" we have had more fair societies, but its the relatively fair and very stable thus more preferred . "Unfair and bad business practices are mostly illegal" idk, im still relying on clothes put together in sweatshops and i get rides in cares that took cobalt from slave mines in the congo to build but yes, its not as bad as it COULD be, we dont rely on feudal saudi arabian oil so much that we would collapse if it vanished, we would simply have a small recession . "one can easily manage to create a long-lasting wealth without having to necessarily resort to breaking the law" so easy that the majority of people do it, yes? no, we do ran highest in social mobility here in denmark, but not everyone can become rich . "I don’t see inheritance as a negative thing" so if my great great grandfather owns a boat that ships slaves to the US, he invests the money in some land in denmark, then his son builds many businesses, and his brother builds his own business from mostly his own wealth he got by working (plus some contracts with the family businesses that really helps) and then that business is eventually foreclosed because what it provided is no longer needed, and he helps his son start a business using the left over assets and then i inherit that venture one day, is it morally right? if wealth can be traced back to crime, is there a point in time it becomes moral to keep? . "almost the entirety of your work is aimed towards granting them a good future" what if you got the wealth from a business that used predatory tactics that closed down many less shady ventures? is if fair that one person benefits from that wealth by getting a good education while the rest suffered from the economic downturn the predatory business brought upon them? its like elon musk, he was privileged to upper class fostering and early education and access to family assets and tutorage, even though his personal businesses come from his own personal wealth that he made, that privileged starting position came from the wealth of emerald slave mines, are you okay with that? are you okay that slavery made one persons life easier than yours? is it fair that some people had slaves as their great grandparents while another person got to benefit from the wealth that came from exploiting that labor? . im ending here for not, im not going to write a whole book to throw a wrench into every sentence you write, i have given enough for the time being . "you still have to manage it all, which is a job in its own." hire a manager
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@butitssummerma6436 why should landlords be given a free ride?
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@butitssummerma6436 landlords dont provide any value to society
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@butitssummerma6436 yea right sorry, ill stop going to work then, thank you for knowing more about my life and what i do than i myself do . thanks for telling me that i do less than simply pay for maintenance of property using the money from the people living on the property . i guess working as a person who maintains property (in your eyes at least) is worth less than the work of the landlords who pay me to do so
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@butitssummerma6436 the joy of being a landlord, sure its your responsibility, but not really because it would only affect a revenue stream you dont work for, a revenue stream that pays for the maintenance, simple remembering to pay someone money you didnt work for sure must be a lot of responsibility . private land ownership is theft, there is no way for private landownership to come into existence without theft, all land used to be in the commons, land anyone could use, and used land fell into personal ownership but then rulers and tyrants came, STOLE the land, and then decided they where the ones who had the right to sell it back to the people as per how they defined it, as per their rules, as per their stipulations . and then we are supposed to suck it up and pay to keep land that was stolen from us, why should someone get to own a house thousands of kilometres away that they never use when the common people who where robbed and are in need of housing and are being gentrified out of their own cities have to respect that . sure theres some landlords who people like and arent shit human being, they are still part of the system of keeping stolen land from the people
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@butitssummerma6436 is wanting what was stolen from us back a free ride? if all of earth was one nation, an it owned all water, and said "you have to pay me for it" thats tyranny, that water is not yours, you stole it from the people, im not asking to be given anything, im asking the state to stop stealing it, they are the ones getting free shit they didnt work for, now instead of a state owning it, imagine its an individual they still stole it, they did not make the land, it used to be property of the commons, not its not, not because it was given, it was stolen im not seeing what you dont get
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take from the rich until they are not rich, if they leave, so what?
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@shaunrobbins5902 "then all the big business owners leave..with thousands of jobs" why would the jobs leave? the factory is still there, the tools are still there, the workers are still there? its laughable that people think a rich person leaving will remove a nations ability to have jobs and resources, yes, it is that way under capitalism, thousands of peoples livelihoods are simply in the hands of the whims of some rich guy, ridiculous "until they are eating rats in the street like Venezuela" yeah... venezuela is poor... but guess what? its been poor for a long time now, you didnt have a problem with all of the same issues + some when venezuela was capitalist, but then the people back a change to socialism as their oil dependent society constructed by capitalists begins to collapse as its now their only hope, and now these problems are all the suddenly new? its ridiculous what the media gets away with making people believe "Tianamen square" literally like 300 people died in that event, lol
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if you are for private property you arent anarchist
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@michaelrichards9585 so before you go telling others that they need to get schooled, take a look at what you yourself are saying
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landlords dont create wealth they didnt build the houses, they paid someone to, they didnt maintain the houses they paid someone to and with what money? that of the tenants
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@shaunrobbins5902 then he provided value by building the house, pay him for that, but landlording does not provide value, i dont care if someone is a landlord AND they provide the service, those are not tied together
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@shaunrobbins5902 "if you assume nobody can own anything" i dont assume that, please read some anarchist theory about property ownership
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@shaunrobbins5902 "how can you guarantee that everyone works equally as hard as eachother in a communist society" you dont, thats not the point
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@personperson4328 YOUR IDEOLOGY SAYS THIS BEACUSE I SAYS SO, I HEARD SO ON THE TELLY WHEN THE MAN SAID YOUR IDEOLOGY WAS BAD AND THEN FED ME HIS DEFINITION OF YOUR IDELOGY, WHY WOULD HE NOT TELL ME THE TRUTH
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@voluntarism335 if you believe in private property then you are a statist
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