Comments by "Magnús Örn" (@magnusorn7313) on "Iceland Is Growing New Forests for the First Time in 1,000 Years | Short Film Showcase" video.

  1. yes, normal things
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  2. for the good of the country? you cant have the whole population living with nothing made of wood how many things around you is made of wood?
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  3. it was warmer locally, records show that the global temperatures where relatively unchanged, the global temperature is higher today i can understand that if you saw a graph of temperatures around the Atlantic you might mistake it for being a good comparison to global temperatures
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  4. doom? what
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  5. it means that people who build pagan churches like to use what nature has provided and also nearly every town and many farms have their own church already no one wants to build a christian church if they already have one
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  6. thats why we have youtube right?
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  7.  @newstartyt3700  that already what they intend to do, they are the forestry service after all they are not a public business, planting is priority number one but it also serves to provide wood without having to import it
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  8. "FN jobs"?
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  9. it is, capitalism can be a driving factor to fix this, people are just too dumb to know that they way to make capitalism better at fighting emissions is by taxing emissions i often hear people who rant about democrats, bernie sanders and healthcare that "bla bla socialism bad" and what i have seen in their long rants online is they mention a neat fact "free markets innovate under pressure, planned markets break" but then its often the same people who go "carbon tax!! thats socialism" like listen, if you think its so nice to have this flexible market with the super power of innovation then why not use that ability not saying you are on either side when it comes to carbon tax, im just having a small spill of ranting here i agree capitalism can be great you just gotta actually use it
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  10. there is a prominent one being built near the capital, i havent checked but it might be finished now or it should be soon
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  11. yea
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  12.  @thetruthalwaysscary  yes, the ice age still happened, and it may have had a small effect in preventing reforesting here in iceland, but the larger cause for that was and still is sheep grazing, sheep eat everything not on legs, that includes saplings and yes, the atlantic climate is still colder but thats because of regional atlantic currents, the little ice age was most harshly experience by those around the atlantic well actually you could go as far as to say it was only experienced by them
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  13. why?
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  14. if you keep on replanting you are doing better than a regular forest because you are making way for new trees to grow once you chop down the tree its still there, the co2 hast hopped out, you still have that mass which will be used for buildings and furniture that we need anyways, if not for planting our own trees to chop down we would have to import wood
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  15. agreed, but cutting a tree down does not negate the carbon it took out of the air
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  16. yea? did you not hear it well?
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  17. so they should just keep importing wood when its needed becasue thats BETTER than growing trees, harvesting them, and plating new ones
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  18.  @dantenelson1624  furniture, floorboards,and entire buildings small fishing villages arent going to be building modern houses from steel and glass
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  19. what species? we dont really have any species that rely on trees
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  20. its both, they are continuing to expand their forests, some are not for harvest, but some are, its good to have a way to locally source wood because humans will always need some wood, i do doubt they well ever extend to the point where we will be exporting wood
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  21. cutting down lumber whilst replanting is healthier than just planting, because if you just plant yo will still need wood for furniture and buildings, and if not for forestry in iceland we would have to import wood, and thats worse because it is brought using fossil fuels and could be from a forest that is not replanted thus being a part of deforestation what you might not get is that wooden floors and wooden tables are still wood, the carbon is still there, even if the free is cut down, the wood is carbon, and as long as its not in the air thats good
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  22. greening is measured by the color that satellites pick up, not actual productivity of the plants most of the "greening" is moss and birch in tundra our actually productive rain forests continue to shrink no one is suggesting to go bellow 200 ppm, some even just want to go down to 300 ppm its not good to in just 300 years release as much co2 as it took 50 million years to sequester
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  23. the amazon is a garden, it has been shaped over thousands of years by its inhabitants to replace the trees with ones that bore fruit most trees in the amazon are fruit trees, in small isolated parts where humans havent been the ratio is not the same and there are relatively few fruit baring ones we have and we will always shape our environment
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  24. i dont see a problem with satanic churches, that would be neat
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  25. it killed the native trees, did you not get that?
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  26. you seem to forget what they said about native trees
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  27. if every family used ecosia you might be able to get more than one tree planted per day
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  28. seems like you are reading into the narrative what you want... and failing
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  29. not when there are diseases being brought in and the weather is changing
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  30. biomass
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  31. kraftur í
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  32. yo
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  33. define "these"
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  34. it benefits the world, they wont have to import trees how many things around you in your life is made of wood? floorboards maybe? maybe some decorative items, paper, furniture...
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  35. why not?
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  36.  @ferodrigues1211  well yea, having tress that you replant means you get wood, which is good, its needed for buildings and furniture anyways one you chop down a tree, the carbon is still there in the wood, you still have the carbon, once you make a chair or floor boards the carbon is still there, its no longer in the air the wood is needed anyways so growing it in iceland is much better than importing it in containers
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  37. pagan typically means minority religion
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  38. better than none
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  39. better than importing lumber
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  40. carbon locking look it up, its good for the environment
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  41. problem?
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  42. and what? import wood across the sea instead?
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  43.  @newstartyt3700  but then where will people live? people need walls and roofs they need chairs and tables
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  44. except you missed the part where he said the native trees are dying off...
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  45. FN jobs?
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  46. cutting down a tree does not make the carbon in the wood just go right back, you still have the wood, and it will still be there in building, walls, floors, furniture and roofs so whats the issue?
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  47. if you had a seed in a bottle, and it says "plant me and i will likely suffer more than others" would you plant it?
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  48.  @lalalalalala8482  you didnt answer my question and im not talking about continuing life, this is about starting one
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  49.  @lalalalalala8482  if you see it that way either way its necessary since we have modern medicine, removing genetic diseases and lowering the suffering in a country seems pretty humane according to god
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  50.  @lalalalalala8482  it is if we halt evolution and let our dna deteriorate through random mutation
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  51. yes, much more eco friendly to gather wood locally than have it imported across the sea
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  52. the irony is not lost on all of us, and even then, i hate europe and their ecological policies, i can just as well hate on the devastating effect of amazon deforestation and the many natives affected having their lives torn apart and in some cases just being straight up killed for development
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  53. no, we dont need more, co2 is good, but so is water, and people can drown in water
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  54.  @zabelicious  what has been the average ppm co2 in the atmosphere for the last oh lets say 800k years?
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  55.  @FurnitureFan  no, i wish it was a stave church but it has like a modern design
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  56. the amazon is a tree farm because researchers have shown that the tree demographics of the area could only exist if they had been on some level managed by people, we attribute this to the natives that lived there for tens of thousands of years
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  57. no because the lumber is still there, if its used to make tables, walls or floors the wood is still there, the carbon hasnt just leaked out of the tree as soon as its cut, and cutting it gives space to plant a new tree, it would be worse if they just planted the trees and didnt cut them down because humans will always need wood and if not locally sources we would need to import it in containers
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  58. yes, the earth does warm and cool without us but that does not mean its impossible for us to affect it its like seeing a rotten tree fall over and say "see, i told you humans dont cut down trees"
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  59.  @heretoforeunknown  did i say it was america? you guys arent the ones pumping the gasses but the amount of trash you guys throw out and who do you think makes that trash you use up? enabling is still a part of the problem
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  60.  @heretoforeunknown  either way that does not remove you logical fallacy of assuming that water falling on you cant be from a sprinkler becasue it also rains sometimes
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  61.  @heretoforeunknown  you say that because climate change is a part of nature that means humans cant be the cause but things can be caused by more than one thing
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  62. "Your Island is getting cooler numb nuts not warmer." yea sure ignorant foreigner, dont take the word from researchers stationed here their whole lives taking records but mr hill on youtube
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  63. the devastation wraught on the most vulnerable and productive lands on earth will be incalculably more significant than any barren rock now warm enough that if we import tons of soil to it it can be a fraction as productive as lands we have lost
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  64. would you rather no trees?
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  65. even if their only goal is to make money they would still be planting trees
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  66. "So when Floki discovered Iceland" lmao, hbo's vikings is not educational content!
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  67. you mean the same one that was dying? 2:20
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  68. the trees where razed before the little ice age started, try again
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  69.  @thetruthalwaysscary  razed, not raised, two different words
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  70.  @thetruthalwaysscary  is english not your first language? where are you from? i guess you could maybe deduct where im from based on my name
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  71. "greening" not balancing out birch trees in canada are a drop compared to the dense groves of the tropics the earth will be ok, but not us
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  72. because pagans care about the wood being locally sourced
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  73. they
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  74. now if only every country was trying to reforest itself
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  75. becasue if they took their time to arrange a floral pattern they want and then to breed those all to get ones that will grow would take too long, we need action now, we can add diversity into it later
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  76.  @mitchl5220  well hopefully they dont die before enough balance is found to start diversifying
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  77. "be damned" lmao, nice
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  78. why would it need more? do you have research that proves there is no adverse consequence to terraforming our planet? staying with the norm of the past 22000 years seems to be safer
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  79. iceland isnt in the EU
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  80.  @mrplease66  is it?
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  81. "When the Viking settlers came to Iceland birch trees were most prevalent, with some rowan trees, and probably a tiny number of tea-leaved willow trees and aspen trees"
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  82. because regular churches usually dont care about having wood that comes form the land, they dont value that connection besides, every single town already has a church, there isnt the demand
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  83. you might be interested in ecosia the search engine i used it for a while but i stopped using it because its not that great if you intend to do hours of academic searches more useful for just getting to sites and asking question
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  84.  @Epsilonsama  On the whole, churches are specifically Christian. However, there are some Christian groups that call their religious spaces temples. The main definition of temple is: a building, structure, or place dedicated to the service or worship of a deity or deities.
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  85. i guess pagans really want locally sourced trees, land owners probably just want cheap construction materials
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  86. does he need to fry jesus? why should he fry jesus?
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  87. another genocide?
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  88. yea? its better than importing trees we need either way cutting down a tree does not release all the co2 its collected up
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  89. you know floorboards and tables are still made of wood? and people need floorboards and tables? just because you cut down a tree to make a table, the wood is still there, which means the carbon is still there its better than to import the wood that you need because that means boats powered by fossil fuels
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  90. what no, thats the reasons our native trees dies and at this rate we are pumping out more than out plant life can deal with and eventually we will die
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  91. more productive as in it grows, the native trees are generally having a tough time lately and some are dying off
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  92. ? who said it was
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  93. you do know that christianity also included human sacrifices when the religion was in its infancy it was even still doing it occasionally at least until the medieval age and if you count people with voices in their head who say that "god told them to" then sacrifices in Christianity are technically still happening and then you have to consider branches of christianity because there are many, satanism is even one of them
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  94.  @multigladiator384  im just pointing out your ignorance when it comes to religion
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  95. and the less nutritious things get
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  96. lmao, despook yourself mate
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  97. so humans should never have done agriculture?
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  98. icelander here, whats the issue?
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  99.  @blabla-wx6kc there nearly arent, the majority of the island is barren, the interior is entirely barren and the forests we see now, most of them come from their efforts
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  100.  @blabla-wx6kc  yea, its an exaggeration, people do that when speaking of course we have always been planting trees but they are actually increasing the forest coverage of the island which is something we havent been doing this whole time
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  101.  @blabla-wx6kc  cant write icelandic with the keyboard i have, i live in denmark and yes, some people have been mislead by taking it seriously
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  102. how so?
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  103. well yea, you need trees somehow, its better to have a wood farm than to import wood
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  104. yes? people need trees they also need food, thats why when a harvest happens at a farm the land gets planted again
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  105. yes, issue?
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  106. humans also do better with more water... too a point also did you not hear the part about the native trees dying or are you just deaf? not to mention how many sea plants are going extinct
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  107. dried fish
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  108. its a decorational hedge maze, not a real maze
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  109. of which god?
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  110. "greening" is not what we need there is a reason they pick that word it does not mean plant life is more productive, it does not mean there is more productive plant life it means more geographic area is covered in some type of vegetation moss does not fill in for what tropical forests do for us
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  111. why? all icelanders can understand english
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  112.  @nousername5673  plenty of people probably want to read it in some other language too
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  113. i think the gods want churches
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  114. so i guess you also think domesticating animals is bad
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  115. its possible, the government has no laws against it but they really dont want anything that pollutes, there was a big thing some years ago when some Chinese person bought some land and was going to build a factory or something
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  116.  @dantenelson1624  how many things in your house is made out of wood?
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  117. the geoengineering of factories pumping out co2 for decades
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