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It seems apparent that Prigozhin has something to prove to Putin in Bahkmut. What puzzles me is that the Wagner group's inability to take the city after 4 months would surely mean he has completely failed in this regard? The Wagner performance in Bakhmut has been abysmal and totally incompetent. They have performed worse than the Russia regular army and in any other military their performance would be looked upon very poorly indeed. Even now they are complaining about ammo shortages making further progress impossible, meaning they even squandered all their resources on their inept tactics and still achieved almost nothing. Yeah that's some great work there, Prigozhin, demonstrating to the world just how incompetent you are. So to me, the situation would suggest the Wagners are total failures, and certainly worthy of ridicule. As a private army, they completely suck. Even if they take the city tomorrow it has to rate as a massive fail. Who knew that thugs and prisoners would make such poor soldiers? (Hint: everyone). Footnote: I do not want to detract from the bravery and heroism from those defending the city, they totally rock, no question. But to move forward only 400m in 4 months, or whatever it was, is truly pathetic. If Prigozhin did have something to prove to his "master" then surely he has failed miserably?
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The list of everything russia has lost due to this invasion is simply catastrophic. Some of the main items being:
1) Large number of extremely significant international companies stopped doing business and moved out. They will never return.
2) Massive brain-drain of the country's most talented people (knock on effect of (1))
3) Complete loss of international investment, likely never to return. Plus of course vast sums of their existing money seized and frozen in overseas banks, likely to be used for reparations.
4) Complete loss of their EU fossil fuel market. Pre-war, 86% of russia's fossil fuel exports were going to EU and its allies, and that represents 64% of russia's total exports. Gone forever.
5) Mobilzation took 700k of the most productive people out of the economy when it could least afford to lose them. (About to be repeated?)
6) West can feel justified in continuing and increasing their sanctions, crippling the economy further. The longer the war goes on the tighter they can strangle. Even the Kremlin advisors stated it will take them 40+ years to get back to where they started economically.
7) Complete humiliation and loss of reputation of the previously feared Russian military. Now a laughing stock.
8) Complete loss of reputation for the country itself. Now thought of as the Nazis of the modern era with their own modern-day Hitler; a reputation they will likely never lose.
9) NATO countries were galvanized and NATO came together in great strength and unity when they had kind of drifted apart. No one expected that.
10) Potentially multiple new countries applying to join NATO, most of them right on russia's border, united in their fear, distrust and outright hatred of russia.
11) Russian arms industry in tatters after they demonstrated to the world just how garbage their weapons actually are. In fact it is now mandatory for all Russian-made weapons to have a label stamped on them that reads "Warning: Not suitable for use against NATO weapons."
12) They have been stripped of the right to use the capital 'R' in their country name which must now be written as "russia" by all inhabitants of the Earth, except putin who must instead use the word "knobland" to refer to his motherland (no capital 'K' though, it's forbidden).
13) They will never be able to buy a MacDonald's again in their country - a restaurant described by the more discerning russian foodies as "the classiest place to eat in Moscow".
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I would say the far more accurate explanation is that it was designed by Ukraine as a huge trap, to pull russia into attacking a strategically unimportant area that was very heavily fortified and thus to draw them into the most efficient killing zone Ukraine had available in the region. It was a trap for the russians, and still serves its purpose months later, as designed. Here's how it was achieved....
After Lyman and all those other regions in the NE were liberated last Autumn, Bakhmut ceased being the key defensive city in that area that it previously had been. Look at the map and you can see what I mean, as the front line changed very significantly last autumn, in Ukraine's favour. That front line shift made Bakhmut strategically less significant. Now, at exactly the time that the heavily-fortified Bakhmut suddenly ceased to be so important, note that Zelenskyy went on public TV and said the opposite. He was heavily criticized for drawing attention to the city like that at the time, especially by military analysts who could see that Bakhmut had lost its significance, and argued that Zelenskyy's words would draw unwarranted attention on Bakhmut from russia. Of course it's now become apparent what Zelenskyy's real motive was in making this apparently reckless statement. Bakhmut was the most fortified city in the area and they couldn't let all those lines of defence go to waste. So... Trap sprung. Massive amount of dead russians. Send more human waves please. It's still delivering result months later. Have you never stopped to think how weird it was that russia chose to focus all their attention on Bakhmut, the most heavily fortified city in the entire eastern front (and hence by far the hardest to take), when they could have chosen literally anywhere else?
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The Dnipro south bank is 300km long in that area, so they Ukraine can cross it by boat pretty easily, as Russia cannot defend all of it, especially since they seem to have been dumb enough to move a huge volume of troops away from there heading east. In addition, Ukrainian artillery is apparently targeting the river's south bank, and can gather wherever the Ukrainians want to cross. Maps suggest there is only one proper road on that entire west peninsula south of the river, and it runs along the entire south river bank to the tip, so Russia cannot move troops or supplies into this area to defend against beach landings, without them being rained on by the Ukrainian artillery on the north bank. The means Ukraine can freely land on the west tip of the peninsula and set up a major beachhead. They are already doing this I believe. Only the Black Sea fleet could prevent this and if they leave port, they will be destroyed, and they know it. This is a genius maneuver basically.
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@commandervile394 Bakhmut was a trap, designed by Ukraine, to pull russia into attacking a strategically unimportant city that was none-the-less very heavily fortified, and thus to lure them into the most efficient killing zone Ukraine had available in the region. It still serves its purpose months later, as designed. Here's how this was achieved....
After Lyman and all those other regions in the NE were liberated last Autumn, Bakhmut ceased being the key defensive city in that area that it previously had been. Look at the map and you can see what I mean, as the front line changed very significantly last autumn, in Ukraine's favour. That front line shift made Bakhmut strategically far less significant. Now, at exactly the same time that the heavily-fortified Bakhmut suddenly ceased to be so important, note that Zelenskyy went on public TV and said the very opposite. He was heavily criticized for drawing attention to the city like that at the time, especially by military analysts who could see that Bakhmut had lost its significance, and argued that Zelenskyy's words would draw unwarranted attention on Bakhmut from russia. Of course it's now become apparent that is exactly what Zelenskyy's hoped to achieve in making this apparently reckless statement. Bakhmut was the most fortified city in the area after all, and they couldn't let all those juicy lines of defence go to waste. So... Trap sprung! Massive amount of dead russians.
It's still delivering results months later. I mean, have you never stopped to think how weird it was that russia chose to focus on Bakhmut, the most heavily fortified city in the entire eastern front (and hence by far the hardest to take), when they could have chosen literally anywhere else?
So yeah it's a shame to lose it of course, because it was Ukraine's best russia murderer in that area, and was keeping a heck of a lot of russian forces pinned there just where Ukraine wanted them.
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I can provide that for you: "lie, lie, lie, lie, bullsh!t, lie, big shouty lie, BS, combat mosquitoes, lie, Britain did it, lie, BS, lie, enormous comedy lie, BS, nukes, lie, America did it, lie, Gay Satanic Nazis, lie, lie, BS, lie". Then he was cut-off :/
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@onyiiilo378 Because it is doing an amazing job at killing russians (1:7 KIA ratio in Ukraine's favour). And still is. It cannot do that job without being defended. Duh. But if you want a fuller answer, here it is...
Bakhmut was a trap, designed by Ukraine, to lure russia into attacking a strategically unimportant city that was none-the-less very heavily fortified, and thus to lure them into the most efficient killing zone Ukraine had available in the region. It still serves its purpose months later, as designed. Here's how this lure was achieved....
After Lyman and all those other regions in the NE were liberated last Autumn, Bakhmut ceased being the key defensive city in that area that it previously had been. Look at the map and you can see what I mean, as the front line changed very significantly last Autumn, in Ukraine's favour. That front line shift made Bakhmut strategically far less significant.
Now, at exactly the same time that the heavily-fortified Bakhmut suddenly ceased to be so important, note that Zelenskyy went on public TV and said the very opposite. He was heavily criticized for drawing attention to the city like that at the time, especially by military analysts who could see that Bakhmut had lost its significance, and argued that Zelenskyy's words would draw unwarranted attention on Bakhmut from russia. Of course it's now become apparent that is exactly what Zelenskyy's hoped to achieve in making this apparently reckless statement. He wanted the russians pinned to it. Bakhmut was the most fortified city in the area after all, and they couldn't let all those juicy lines of defence go to waste. So... Trap sprung! Massive amount of dead russians.
Bakhmut is still delivering amazing results months later. I mean, have you never stopped to think how weird it was that russia chose to focus on Bakhmut, the most heavily fortified city in the entire eastern front (and hence by far the hardest to take), when they could have chosen literally anywhere else? If you didn't stop to wonder about that mystery, then you'd make a splendid russian.
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@johnwhitehurst474 Agreed and I would like to further elaborate. Bakhmut was a trap, designed by Ukraine, to lure russia into attacking a strategically unimportant city that was none-the-less very heavily fortified, and thus to lure them into the most efficient killing zone Ukraine had available in the region. It still serves its purpose months later, as designed. Here's how this trap was achieved....
After Lyman and all those other regions in the NE were liberated last Autumn, Bakhmut ceased being the key defensive city in that area that it previously had been. Look at the map and you can see what I mean, as the front line changed very significantly last autumn, in Ukraine's favour. That front line shift made Bakhmut strategically far less significant. Now, at exactly the same time that the heavily-fortified Bakhmut suddenly ceased to be so important, note that Zelenskyy went on public TV and said the very opposite. He was heavily criticized for drawing attention to the city like that at the time, especially by military analysts who could see that Bakhmut had lost its significance, and argued that Zelenskyy's words would draw unwarranted attention on Bakhmut from russia. Of course it's now become apparent that is exactly what Zelenskyy's hoped to achieve in making this apparently reckless statement. Bakhmut was the most fortified city in the area after all, and they couldn't let all those juicy lines of defence go to waste. So... Trap sprung! Massive amount of dead russians.
It's still delivering results months later. I mean, have people never stopped to think how weird it was that russia chose to focus on Bakhmut, the most heavily fortified city in the entire eastern front (and hence by far the hardest to take), when they could have chosen literally anywhere else? They were lured into it and are too stupid to realise. It is really that simple.
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Trump... makes a phone call, gets impeached. Nixon... wiretaps an office, has to resign. Biden... leaves Americans and Afghan allies behind thrown to the wolves, gifts $85 billion of modern weapons to the enemy, kills 13 marines and 10 innocents, causes America to lose face, possibly forever, and deserts all its closest military allies without warning, and... NO ACCOUNTABILITY. No JUSTICE. Gets booed at a sports game. Jesus, America, do you see how you look to the rest of the world right now??? What the hell does that old wetter have to do to get moved out of the sacred office he is disgracing? Destroy your economy as well?
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@GallyamovPavel Is that Russian? Why would you think I'd be able to read that? I put it into google translate and was returned as "lie, lie, lie, lie, BS, lie, more BS, combat mosquitoes, lie, lie, Britain did it, lie, BS, lie, lie, nukes, lie, America did it, lie, Gay Satanic Nazis, lie, lie, BS, lie". So I really have no idea what your point was.
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@zatoichiable Bakhmut was (and is) a trap, designed by Ukraine, to pull russia into attacking a strategically unimportant city that was none-the-less very heavily fortified, and thus to lure them into the most efficient killing zone Ukraine had available in the region. It still serves its purpose months later, as designed. Here's how this was achieved....
After Lyman and all those other regions in the NE were liberated last Autumn and the frontlines moved dozens of km quickly, , Bakhmut ceased being the key defensive city in that area that it previously had been. Look at the map and you can see what I mean, as the front line changed very significantly last autumn, in Ukraine's favour. That front line shift made Bakhmut strategically far less significant. Now, at exactly the same time that the heavily-fortified Bakhmut suddenly ceased to be so important, note that Zelenskyy went on public TV and said the very opposite. He was heavily criticized for drawing attention to the city like that at the time, especially by military analysts who could see that Bakhmut had lost its significance, and argued that Zelenskyy's words would draw unwarranted attention on Bakhmut from russia. Of course it's now become apparent that is exactly what Zelenskyy's hoped to achieve in making this apparently reckless statement. Bakhmut was the most fortified city in the area after all, and they couldn't let all those juicy lines of defence go to waste. So... Trap sprung! Massive amount of dead russians.
It's still delivering results months later. I mean, have you never stopped to think how weird it was that russia chose to focus on Bakhmut, the most heavily fortified city in the entire eastern front (and hence by far the hardest to take), when they could have chosen literally anywhere else?
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