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Comments by "irresistablejewel" (@irresistablejewel) on "French Weapons to Hit Russia u0026 Estonian Boots on Ground as Bulgarian President says UA Can't Win" video.
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@phild3936 There was an eight year civil war in Ukraine, after the pro-Russian government was toppled in 2014, the armed overthrow set off a whole chain of events.
Some Western media outlets seem to want to ignore this (so cannot really be considered reliable); but the country then split in two. 2014-2022 an estimated 13K combined losses.
There's certainly no shortage of BS; but Ukraine (and other Western former Soviet states) held independence referendums (in 1991) and became independent countries (again).
Chechnya was denied independence and there are other significant differences; a bunch of oil-rich Muslim goat-herders (HQ Hotel Intourist) were causing mayhem in Moscow.
It may have been: the school massacre, or bombs on the Metro, Russia even shelled their own White-House, to evict campaigners; Chechnya never got independence.
Russians and Ukrainians are fellow Slavs; it was always a key issue for Russia that Ukraine (and Yugoslavia) were neutral "buffer countries" between Russia and NATO.
Other former Soviet states (now countries) went on to join NATO; EU even both; with little or no trouble; NATO "intervened in Yugoslavia and that country subsequently broke up.
From 1994-2014 Ukraine was independent: I thought they got a pretty good deal from USSR: division of military and commercial assets; nuclear power; gas tariffs; annual port leasing fees; Russia and America even collaborated in decommissioning Soviet-era nuclear and chemical stockpiles (which were becoming dangerously unstable).
Ukraine agreed with USSR to be neutral; it agreed again with Russia in 2014; after both NATO and EU already said they'd be happy to offer Ukraine membership (in 2008).
While I agree that some important details seem to have been left out; it was actually the corporations (big-business) that were backing that far-right Germany party, because with all the war-reparations (from WW1) and economic sanctions, they couldn't function properly. As far as I can see that's what's been happening in the West; while in the East government tells their corporations what to do; they often subsidise them and so if you're looking for the far-right here; I think it's us. While the media here keeps trying to tell me the government is doing a great job, which is obviously not true and there is some debate as to whether they're the ones in charge, or just the PR dept for something else.
So I'm watching events in Ukraine (and Syria, where America troops still occupy the oil fields) with some degree of horror; as sending money and weapons just seems to escalate the civilian death toll; it's already clear that Western interventions have killed millions of civilians; so trying to claim they care about people now (even ours), I simply don't believe.
I'm blaming the media here, by the way, as being complicit; while I regard the conflict in Ukraine as not my (our) business at all; if foreign corporations did take control of Ukrainian agriculture and a gas pipeline (from 2014) as seems to be the case (Oakland Institute data), while Western interests send billions, then Ukraine isn't neutral, so it's war.
Why anyone thought this was a good idea I can't explain; it was highly provocative, this even annoyed EU farmers (the introduction of modern farming methods threatening to put them out of business); while gas tariffs increased so much alternative routes were built (that mysteriously blew up). It looks like an economic war, Western interests already lost.
I have no interest in taking sides in conflicts in far-away places; but I do have an interest in not marching off to war for the wrong reasons, same with diverting (our) public money.
If it's actually an economic war; not about: democracy; freedom or even people, it seems to have already split the world economy in two; the EU from cheap Russian gas and grain while, if pushed, I expect China would not support the Western interests interests. I understand that corporations are in business to make profit, their duty to shareholders they claim, but a corporate buy-out of Ukraine and Russia went to war. So I believe Russia is targeting Western investment; not civilians; while actually the Western powers often do target civilians (horrendous death tolls)... latest Gaza 34K already; I don't support sending weapons and funds there either. All I'm saying is I don't believe the American narrative; I don't know what they think they were/are doing funding a proxy war in Eastern Europe; so I view Ukraine as the architect of it's own destruction. Grozny was an act of vengeance; after the conflict in Ukraine ends (or there's a nuclear war); I hate to think what Russia will do (so I won't). There's definitely a lot of BS; our media print a lot of it...
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