Comments by "irresistablejewel" (@irresistablejewel) on "Joe Rogan - Henry Rollins "Trump Got Played By Putin"" video.

  1. I'm only basing my comment on this extract from a longer program, but this is worse than nonsense and if you (Henry) are claiming that Trump got played by Putin right into the White house: I actually don't see any hard evidence for that; I also believe you underestimate how unpopular H Clinton was and if there really was a deal to make someone President in these "win at all cost" times I'm guessing there would be a virtual stampede to take it (call me cynical if you must). I'm sure: a mixture of fact and fiction is helpful in stand-up comedy; that there are people who want to call any left wing ideology "communism", or individuals who will vote for their party regardless, or even zealots who will hang on to any half-truth because it might "further the cause"; but none of this is particularly helpful and preaching to the converted has resulted in tribalism. Ya boo politics doesn't interest me. I'm from the tribe that: still doesn't trust politicians as far as I can throw them; believes between the two of them, the main parties have brought America to the point of collapse; that something went very wrong some time ago and while that is now the responsibility of the current President, it's not exactly his fault. Of course there are some in society who are profiting and are unlikely to want change (they'll even spend millions fighting to prevent that); there are some who can weather an economic downturn, while there are some who are badly affected by rises in food or gas prices (and in France they've started wearing yellow vests). The bottom line in a socialist economy is that if the government can't meet the direct needs of the population, then they are not fit to govern. The trouble with some economists and many communists is they want to treat individuals as exactly equal, when they clearly are not. That might fit some economic or ideological model but it rarely pans out once people get involved; in other words treat people like numbers and they won't like it. I believe the root of the many of the current problems is/was repeating trickle down economics (aka "Reaganomics" or "horse and sparrow" economics). Last time the rich got richer; the poor got poorer; then the financial system crashed, there was a depression and a world war. This time throwing money (well QE) at it (debt obligation) isn't much of an improvement. Actually it is like something out of the 1950's ... that movie "The Blob", where some toxic entity absorbs anything and anyone that goes near it while growing ... if you've any answer to that I'm sure the current administration and most of the Western economy would be glad to know. Phone Putin perhaps? I don't think that is realistic; the Russians don't even use money the way the West does; they still use it simply to exchange goods and services. I'd also mention that if the latest American intervention in Syria was really just about an oil pipeline then there are some manipulative people in government and/or permanent state, or lobbyists; we could well do without. Maybe a nice gated community, one they can never leave; but who really wants to be a judge? Ask Cavendish (damn you auto-correct! ...lol) I'm interested in straightforward debate, Joe. So I hope you don't mind me slapping your guest as he attacks the first lady and then goes on to say we shouldn't throw rocks. SLAP! I don't know her; I haven't a bad word to say about Slovenia (the people seemed quite happy there) but I find it difficult to express sympathy for: rich successful people who some regard as being beautiful ... Has she written, "Help Me!" in the butter yet, when out dining? Is there something I'm missing here? I'll tell you; I've quite a few friends, male and female that have made some very peculiar life choices and that's their business; but if your guest tried to describe a female casino pro in that way to her face, he'd be trying to pick up his teeth with broken arms (metaphorically, or literally). As you would know Joe, sometimes it's far easier to inflict pain and let them figure it out. She's not there to defend herself; so really I must ... she only says nice things about you. Bitchiness aside; I think too much attention is paid to "the people" rather than "the policy"; it seems to me American foreign policy has remained exactly the same regardless of party or President. Cheney was not correct when he said "War pays!". Sure it paid him well enough but that was no reason to let him or his kind near high office; because it's costing us lots. I just been waiting to see how long it was until Trump snapped into line (personally). I don't believe Trump dictates his relationship with Putin; American policy on breaking treaties on missiles tends to suggest otherwise so all the preaching about them being allies or buddies is irrelevant; it's media invention and it sells (youbetya!). America believes this ... and it's probably profit related. Russia believes: you can be a billionaire oligarch, but if you dabble in politics you can forget your penthouse and your beautiful (some say) mistress; and your expensive lawyers won't save you; you are going to go to jail. That is why I don't think Russia played any part in the last elections. Just that (not even for the multitude of other reasons). I think the Russians are really on to something there.
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