Comments by "Connor Webb" (@connorw2k) on "Top 10 Movies Where the Bad Guy Wins" video.

  1. 1980 on the nose*^ but the time is no excuse for that coconut cut
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  2. +the pegasus kid Jenny wasn't the villain. Nobody was
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  3. the pegasus kid She told Forrest he didn't want to marry her, because she was messed up. They were good friends as kids, so they kept seeing each other over and over. Jenny kept saying hello, basically. And Forrest stayed with her for a while for every time. What you are saying is not making her a villain. She is not an antagonist to our protagonist.
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  4. +900bz Scary Movie*
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  5. The bad guys were our protagonists. Pretty sure criminal protagonists don't count
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  6. Technically, he was. So was Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill was the prime antagonist. When he died, Hannibal basically became the prime antagonist.
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  7. What do you mean screwed over? He wasn't screwed over. They only started a relationship after Lt. Dan invested him in Apple.
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  8. +Will Matthis Dark Knight, actually.
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  9. Bornstellar Makes Eternal Salting We've established that. Not him being a dumb fuck, obviously. That isn't necessary.
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  10. So a bad guy (but not primary at that time) escapes prison. After the main bad guy is dead, the escapee resurfaces. Basically, at the time of the phone call, he is the primary bad guy now. This results in him being the bad guy in Hannibal.
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  11. he was on the side of the protagonists. Not a "bad guy".
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  12. +one2gaming You're dumb. John Doe envied David Mills's life, so he killed Tracey in envy. David killed John Doe out of wrath (the last of the seven deadly sins), which is what John Doe wanted. If he wants it to happen, and it happens, he wins, whether he's dead or not. He still wins.
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  13. SuperSonicHeroes The movie was fun. But so was Furious 7. So many things that are highly unlikely went in Zemo's favour. He was lucky that somewhere, deep in the middle of East Jesus Nowhere, something was recording the death of Stark's parents. He was lucky that someone put that on a VHS tape. He was lucky to find that tape. He was lucky to have a VCR that was still functional. He was lucky that Stark actually went to the island. And when I was talking about Stark's motive, I was talking about how they should be under government control (in case you meant him instead of Zemo as the bad guy).
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  14. KieManEiy it's all good
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  15. SiouxWarlord Then how the fuck was she screwing Forrest over?
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  16. the pegasus kid she doesn't ignore him. Jenny went to an all-girl college while Forrest obviously didn't. He was then inducted into Vietnam. Girls didn't go to Vietnam. And then she started a bad life after being in Playboy magazine. Dude, pay attention to a fucking movie when you watch it. And by that, I mean very close attention.
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  17. +Rudy Cruz but instead it was what that ending spoofed
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  18. you're thinking of Dewey
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  19. that was gay
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  20. +Rio Aditya Tony Montana was bad too, though. He fucked his boss over, so his boss's men fucked him over.
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  21. I don't even think anyone won in that scenario. I mean, if anything, I think Father Karras won, because he wanted Pazuzu to take him instead, and once Pazuzu possessed him instead, Karras fought it for a brief second and jumped out the window.
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  22. Jon Hamm in The Town tho......
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  23. The bad guys didn't win in Office Space. The building burnt down before Lumbergh found the letter.
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  24. Uh, fuck no. Zemo was dumb, and Stark's motive was awful
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  25. As soon as Andrew starts playing how Fletcher wants him to, I don't necessarily think Fletcher is a bad guy anymore..
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  26. NostalgiNorden Ya but he was only the bad guy because he wasn't getting what he wanted out of Andrew. But then he got what he wanted. Would Fletcher still treat him like trash, even though he finally got what he wanted? Or would he praise him? (Consider how Fletcher acted when Andrew was pulling it off)
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  27. NostalgiNorden You give the fuck up. The movie ended before he showed any more traits of being a dick. It ended with him in a good mood. Your analogy of LOTR makes zero sense. "Sauron was really nice to everyone after he... killed everyone"
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  28. I also don't remember LOTR very well. However, if Sauron had won, I think he'd be on this list. So it is a very shitty analogy.
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  29. NostalgiNorden Holy fuck you're ignorant. Fletcher showed positive emotion because he got what he wanted. Then the movie ended, leaving what his character would be like afterward an ambiguous topic. So if my argument makes zero sense, so does yours.
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  30. NostalgiNorden However, didn't Andrew want to be the best? Wouldn't that make both of them win? (This is just coming back to me)
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  31. did you not stay til the fucking end?
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  32. KieManEiy true
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  33. +Jacob Martinez You're stupid
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  34. +The Veneficus there was no direct proof until after the case closed.
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  35. That the guy who is also in Gran Torino and Shutter Island was in fact the Zodiac killer. It reopened after the movie came out, however, you can't use parts of a biopic if they haven't happened yet.
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  36. Let me rephrase That the fat guy was in fact the Zodiac killer. The case reopened after the movie came out, however, you can't use parts of a biopic if they haven't happened yet. (example: Henry Hill died in 2013. They wouldn't have been able to put that into Goodfellas (1990))
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  37. Technically. Only because the case was closed before Gyllenhaal's character had good evidence. And then before it could reopen the guy had a heart attack
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  38. +Joshua Thomson It was out of revenge though
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  39. The names of their videos
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  40. +Leo Twersky Tony Montana wasn't good though. Not in the end
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  41. +J Lindsey No, because the robbers weren't necessarily bad people.
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  42. Ya, considered, until you found out they were trying to unveil a man who helped the Nazis
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  43. +jack arss Because it's bad
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  44. Why? Because I said it's bad? Alrighty then. You have shitty social skills.
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  45. +Deathraider4O _ Tony Montana wasn't a good guy.
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  46. +NoSoMuSk The bad guy didn't win
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  47. But then he got straight. Who's winning then?
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  48. +Jonathan Gonzales he's still a bad guy
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  49. protagonists
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  50. Julie Frommes were you high? Who the fuck would consider the person who is focused on the second most as our first most character.
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  51. one2gaming Did you even listen to the fucking movie? He didn't give a fuck about his life. He just wanted to make something so creative that it would be studied over and over again. How he starts the killings based on seven deadly sins, leaves wrath out, and ultimately gets someone else to commit a wrath kill without even asking the person to do it. "Just nonsense" my ass. You having a brain is nonsense.
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  52. "You don't win if you get yourself killed when you don't have to." Just answer me this: what is the meaning of life? Are you a child?
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  53. This is not like other films. This film is this film. Are you a child? The video is called "Top 10 movies where the bad guy wins" not "Top 10 movies where the bad guy lives". Learn the fucking difference.
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  54. How is it ironic? I'm asking you because you're ignorant and because of your profile pic. What makes you think I'm a kid?
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  55. And then 9/11. The hijackers didn't lose because they died. If they had lost, no one would even give a fuck about what happened on September 11, 2001. If they had lost, the World Trade Center would still be there
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  56. What?
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  57. I'm not angry, for the record. I don't know how those words sound like they were made out of anger. Cute says the fucking kid.
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  58. Nobody can handle you either. You're a fucking idiot. You basically said the terrorists won (even though they died) during 9/11, but John Doe didn't win, because he died (which he wanted to happen, he wanted to be the seventh dead person. He wanted what he did to be studied over and over again over time). You got to pay more attention to movies, let alone everything else.
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  59. Se7en is a fucking movie. It's not reality. John Doe doesn't have to complete the most harm that he's able to. A movie is supposed to blow you away. My argument is only garbage because you're too much of an ignorant idiot to understand the fucking movie.
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  60. you're a dumbshit. Overstand is not a word. I understand the movie. You don't. Once you grow up, you'll realize that John Doe did win, you annoying adolescent dumbass.
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  61. one2gaming His death caused a mind-blowing seventh death. His plan was to have seven people die, each person based on one of the seven deadly sins. He envied David Mills life, since he had a wife (among other things). He killed her out of envy. David Mills killed John Doe out of wrath. If John Doe killed the two cops, it wouldn't be out of wrath, the only sin in which he hadn't used yet.
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  62. one2gaming You're an idiot.
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  63. That question makes less sense than your reasoning of how John Doe did not win
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  64. protagonist
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