Comments by "Nattygsbord" (@nattygsbord) on "Imperial War Museums"
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Jagdpanther was more than 6 decimeters taller than Stridsvagn-103, Hetzer, StuGIII and Jagdpanzer IV. So it was not as sneaky as the typical ambush tank sitting in a bush trying to get the first shot. Jagdpanther was very large. It was impressive in many ways with good armor, firepower, and mobility. The only disadvatages was the lack of a turret, the high siluette and the reliability problem with panther chassi.
Otherwise was this machine a beast. The allies probably made a wise choice in prioritizing the bombing of the parts of the economy that built this machine, because had the Germans had many more of these machines then would the conquest of Europe have been slow, difficult and costly.
I think the Stridsvagn-103 is more of a cleaver engineering than the jagdpanther. The S-tank got many more special features and it could be driver by only 1-2 men if needed. Its easier to hide. And it is a smarter tank overall.
While Jagdpanther was not a revolutionary tank like the S-tank. It was more the result of evolution. The Germans picked the best parts of other tanks and put it on this tank destroyer. It got the best tank gun from the King Tiger and Nashorn. It got the excellent panther chassi with good mobility, low ground pressure and stabilization. And it got the excellent armor protection from the German cats, and the sloping of its armor reminds of that on TigerII, Panther, SU85 and Jpz4.
And with all those best things got combined, then Germany got the best German tank of the war. A tank with mobility of a panther and the fire power and armor better than a Tiger I.
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You have not followed the news. If you had you would clearly see that the donations from western countries have been small and usually included older vehicles that are at the end of their life cycle. Had those Paladins, Gepards, M113, Humvees, PV1110, and all Soviet junk from Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Macedonia been sent to Ukraine would that equipment have been scrapped anyways very soon as it is becoming so old that its not worth keeping.
Why do you think Sweden got rid of their Pansarbandvagn 501 (Swedens version of BMP-1)?
- It is because it is old garbage. As soon as Sweden bought Combat Vehicle 90 it sold their old Soviet junk off to the Czech Republic, and the Czechs have now given away all those vehicles to Ukraine.
There is no point for Sweden to maintain that expensive crappy Soviet garbage. Combat vehicle is a much better vehicle, despite all upgrades Sweden had done to their old BMP-1.
So no Nato is not depleting its resources. Even Swedens tiny military have been a large donor to Ukraine. But despite that has Swedens military spending just been a few billions in aid to Ukraine - which is an extremely small sum of money to Ukraine. Only about 0.5% of our GDP this year.
So we can afford to give much more help to Ukraine if we are wanting to. USA + EU got a 40 times larger economy than Russia. So guess which side will run out of resources first?
- I think it is obvious that Russia will deplete its resources first. And it is already suffering severe shortages now, despite the west have not yet even starting to flex its military muscles even a little bit. The Russian military have proven itself to be not just a paper bear. But also incompetent and completly useless.
The help to Ukraine have been minimal compared to what it could have been. And yet are Russia losing so hard against the poorest country in Europe. A country that mostly uses Soviet military junk that is even older than that used by Russia.
Pathetic.
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@Boppy-B-B Britain felt like it stood alone in 1940. And that is what matters. The colonies was too far away to help the motherland which had just retreated from Europe while country after country had fallen like dominos. Now Britain was the only country left to stand against Hitlers invincible armies. And to make matters worse was Italy joining the Axis. And Spain and Vichy France didn't seem unlikely to join the fascist team soon.
It felt like a dark time. Hitlers regime was not a freedom loving one. And now he no longer just had an invincible army but could also tap all the resources of Europe...
So of course is this how many Brits would have felt during the Blitz. However, today we can look back in hindsight and laugh. Germany was never suffiecently prepared for operation sea lion in 1940 so the fears of the British population was not justified by the factual situation. Germany lacked transports, warships, and enough with time to finish Britain off in the summer.
It is also understandable that people felt blackpilled in may 1942. The Axis had won victories at all fronts. Japan had won many victories and its empire now stretched over a gigantic sea and landmass. And if Japan would continue to beat bigger armies and expand at this rate then would soon Australia, India and then California fall into japanese hands.
The Axis had been through a few setbacks in Europe. But most of Europe was now controlled by the Axis and the world under Axis control was now roughly the same size as the allied world in terms of economic GDP.
German armies stood outside Moscow. German bombers had wrecked London. There was German submarines lurking outside the American coast and causing havoc.
It seemed like the Axis armies was unstoppable. France, Belgium, Holland, Norway, Denmark, Poland and Yugoslavia had failed to stop the German take over of Europe. And in the pacific was Japan rolling forward and beating forces from USA, the Philippines, the Netherlands, the British empire, and Portugal.
So of course did it for many people feel like it was just a matter of time before it was taken over by the axis. Today we can laugh at this idea when we know how hopeless the Axis situation was. But people back then could not know how much outnumbered and overextended the axis were. And few could probably have guessed that things would turn around so soon at Midway, Stalingrad, El-Alamein and in the Atlantic.
Before the battle of Midway do I think that even the biggest supporter of the allieds war would have felt uneasy.
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@henriht1147
"If an armored vehicles hull gets penetrated with anything then most of the crew is destined to die either way."
Nonsense.
If an American M4 Sherman or a German Panther got destroyed in battle, then did on average 80% of the crew survive the hit.
Compare that to Russian tanks.
When a T-34 got destroyed, there was a 80% chance that a crewman would die.
So there is obviously a big difference in crew safety from vehicle to vehicle. Are there many safety hatches that the crew can reach? Is the vehicle cramped inside, or is it easy to get out of it if a fire starts inside? How is the ammunition stored inside, is it safely stored like in M1 Abrams or is it stored like inside a T-72 where all the ammunition cooks off and throw the tank turret 75meters up in the air and kill everyone inside the tank in a gigantic explosion?
Soviet vehicles have never prioritized crew safety as much as their western counterparts. They rather want to keep production costs down for making a vehicle.
And sure have Russia been succesful in selling cheap armor vehicles to poor countries that cannot afford much else. But the drawback have always been bad crew safety.
And for that reason am I not a big fan of Russian vehicles. A good tank crew is very valuable in my opinion. More valuable than a tank.
I think Israels obsession about crew safety in their design of the Merkava tank have some merit. While Russias design philosophy from WW2 that views human lives as easily replaceable junk, while equipment is more valuable is coming to an end.
Good crews takes years to make. A tank can be destroyed, but new ones can be built. But a new human soldier takes 20 years to make and needs lots of expensive training. And his willingness to fight will be low if you treat him like a wasteable resources. While a soldier in a democratic society that values soldiers lives will have a stronger willingness to fight.
Russia can no longer behave like it did in the past. It can no longer afford human waves attacks and lose mountains of dead Russian soldiers for every war they win.
Those days are gone. Russias birthrate is going down. And fewer soldiers are therefore available. Russia must now transition away from quantity to quality.
But the problem is that Soviet weapons lack quality and only got quantity in mind. It is junk compared to its western counterparts.
And even the better weapons in the Soviet arsenal have aged and is no longer up to date with the best stuff from the west.
Russia better starts mass producing their T14 Armata and SU57 soon, because will everything they have be outclassed by everything that the west got.
Indeed even if Russia gets the SU57 project finalized... it seems like Russia is in a hopeless situation by now. They have not yet finished their first own 5th generation jet, while USA, Japan, Sweden, UK, Germany and France are already on their way building their own 6th generation planes.
I don't think a technologically backwards, boycotted country, with an economy as large as Spain's can compete with the west anymore in developing advanced weapons systems.
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