Comments by "Nattygsbord" (@nattygsbord) on "How Europe's Greatest Warship Was Destroyed by a Breeze" video.

  1. The ship is huge. Like 4 floors tall, and then you do not even include the mast.
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  2. And also if you are nerdy in warships from 1500s, 1600s or 1700s and such.. then it is worth a visit.
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  3. A heavy blow. But on the other hand was this ship just one out of many large battleships built by the Swedish navy. And Sweden's economic problems had much more to do with fighting wars with Germany, Poland, Russia and Denmark at the same time.
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  4. Indeed. 10.000 large oak trees to just build one boat
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  5. Untrue statement. Sweden had many more big warships than just this one. And most cannons was picked up by divers just a few years after she sank, and was then used on other warships. Sweden's decline as a great power happened started in 1709 - almost 100 years after this ship sank.
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  6. A few
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  7. Many companies worked together to build this ship. Some contractors were Dutch and a few were Swedish and I guess that probably a few were from another country. This ship was simply huge, and needed 10.000 oak trees to build. I think it would have been impossible for anyone to build it on their own given how primitive the world was back in the 1600s. You did not have any internet to make quick payments and buy a huge ship at a wharf in China where it could be assembled with standard parts delivered by a subcontractor. Back in the 1600's everything was hand made by skilled workers instead. So you had to have skilled Dutch people to make your ships whether you liked it or not. It is pretty amazing that Sweden could become one of the most powerful naval powers at all given that the poor country did not have any maritime tradition at all - unlike England, the Netherlands, Venice, Denmark and France. Even Germany and Poland had much more naval tradition than Sweden, and yet would those two countries get crushed at sea by the Swedish navy.
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  8. It is usually cheaper to upgrade an old ship than to buy a new one. And one can always rely on traditional technology while new one not always work. And cutting down 10.000 oak trees to build a new Wasa ship seems unnecessary. So why not just put this old ship back into service instead?
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  9. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a great power in the late 1500s and early 1600s. It was fighting wars against Sweden because Sigismund had been both King over Poland and Sweden. But he Charles IX took the Swedish throne from him, and a long war began. Sweden fought for its survival against a much stronger enemy. And Charles and his son Gustavus Adolphus feared that Poland would invade Sweden and cut their head off so Sigismund could call himself King of Sweden again. And then would Sweden become Catholic and ruled from Poland. The deluge was just a continuation of this long fight. It destroyed Poland. And it destroyed Sweden as well with the costly wars. So Russia and Germany could then easily steal land from Poland and the once mighty Swedish empire. And Germany and Russia became the new great powers of Europe. I also think that Poland did not care much about having a navy. It was a land empire. And it also had more important military things to do - like fighting turks or russians. Poland was also a friend of the Habsburgs that ruled Austria and Spain. And Spain was the mightiest empire in the world and it had a large fleet. So Poland did not have to have its own ships. If it wanted to invade Sweden, it could just talk with Spain or Denmark and borrow some ships to transport thousands of men across the Baltic sea. So the Swedish King always saw Poland as the greatest threat. Not Russia. Not Denmark. Not Germany. But Poland. Swedish troops could easily win elsewhere. Moscow was conquered in 1610. All of Germany laid under Swedish occupation for a while in the early 1630s. Denmark-Norway and Sweden had fought each other for hundreds of years. But Poland always the threat that worried Gustavus Adolphus the most. A totally unnecessary dynastic conflict. Had Zygismund Wasa just revoked his claims on the Swedish throne, then perhaps Poland and Sweden had remained great powers to this day.
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  10. Guns calibers sizes were not standardized back in the 1500s and 1600s. So I guess comparisons are hard to make. What is a gun and what is a rifle? what is a crossbow and what is a catapult?
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  11. No one controls the world. But a few people have much of influence over it.
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  12. It did have Finland and the Baltics and parts of Poland though.
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  13. The Danish navy was defeated many times.
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  14. Maybe 30 polish hussars rushed onboard and walked to the ships side only so the ship would fall over ☹️
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  15. The ticket is a bit costly. But otherwise I think it is worth seeing. It is amazing to see how a full scale warship of the 1600s looked like. Its huge. It took 10000 oak trees to make. It is a thing one has to see when visiting Stockholm. Every history nerd that loves warfare from the 1600s and 1700s would probably want to see this ship.
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  16. Big ships was a diplomatic message to other countries. They symbolized power and prestige and how rich and cultured a country was. A totally silly thing in a modern day observers eyes.
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  17. It was for a few minutes until it sank.
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  18. The typical old quotes comes to mind... ""Not even God himself could sink this ship." "this ship can't sink because there are simply not enough lifeboats" etc
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  19. I am more ashamed of being the last country in Europe to build railroads. Our failed immigration policy. Or soft on crime attitude. Our shameful loss in ice hockey against Belarus in 2002. Our EU membership that has wrecked our country's economy. Our shameful treatment of Assange, Pewdiepie and the founders of pirate bay. Our governments weapon sales to ISIS. Our involvement in wars of aggression against Libya. Our socialdemocratic governments weak attitude towards nazi-Germany. Our feminist snowplowing stupidity. Greta Thunberg and Elin Ersson... ohh shit.. I think this list of things can become endless. Best that I quit here.
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  20. I think he meant in total. If all cannons fired one salvo with every gun
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  21. Its not. Other countries have similar mistakes. Like the Challenger space shuttle that exploded or the tower at Pisa. Personally I think it is cool that Sweden have a big warship from the 1600's preserved. It gives historians all over Europe a chance to see what warships of that time period looked like and what life on board such a ship looked like. This ship is also a great historical artifact of Sweden's time as a great power of Europe, when our country built the largest warship in Europe and had one of the strongest navies in the world despite our country did not have a very large population or any large natural ties to the ocean - as Denmark, Germany and Poland did. But we anyways managed to build a navy that dominated the Baltic Sea for a century. Ignorant modern Swedes do not understand our country's history. Because if they did, then they would understand that Sweden was a maritime empire. Almost to the same degree as England, Netherlands and Portugal. The Swedish empire included parts of modern day Germany, the Baltics states, all of Finland, parts of northern Netherlands, parts of Russia, parts of Norway and a few tiny islands in the Baltic sea like Bornholm, Åland and Saaremaa. So without a strong navy it would have been impossible to keep this huge empire together. A strong fleet was needed to protect trade ships moving between all those territories. A navy was needed to transport soldiers from one part of the country to another part so it could be defended against foreign invaders. Sweden was also the only country in Europe that could produce all materials that was needed to build its own ships: oak tree wood from Germany and the Baltics, tar from Finland, iron and copper cannons from Sweden, rope and hemp from the Baltics and so on. No other countries could do that. England and the Netherlands had to buy their shipbuilding materials from Sweden and other countries. So Sweden's maritime history is an important one from a European perspective. Its merchant navy was also the largest in Europe during certain time periods, since English, Dutch and French ships liked to sail under Swedish flag when their own countries was at war and their ship ran the risk of being plundered or captured by the enemy. So sailing under a neutral flag of a mighty Sweden felt more safe during the 1680s than it was to have their own country's flag flying on top of their own ship. So lots of trade were directed over to Sweden, and much tax income was derived. And in just a few years could suddenly the Swedish merchant fleet grow with a thousand ships when England and the Netherlands was at war with each other.
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  22. It literary had its 5 minutes of fame. Then it was no longer the greatest naval ship in Europe. But it is a ship worth a visit. Especially if you come from a country that was a great naval power of the early 1600's. Because this ship is in a surprisingly good shape and gives a good glimpse what life on board a 1600's warship did look like.
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  23. Warships of that age was also a diplomatic tool. To display power, richness, and good taste in front of other countries. Sweden's military needs was probably better served by building smaller ships. But the King wanted to build larger ones - because big warships was the way countries bragged about themselves back then. They were diplomatic tools and they symbolized power and prestige.
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