Comments by "Nattygsbord" (@nattygsbord) on "Military History not Visualized"
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I have heard that the USA threatened Finland to not treat them gently if the assisted the Germans too much and helping them take Leningrad. So as a small country, Finland needed to act carefully to not upset major powers.
Finlands goal with this war was to retake the land it had lost in the winter war. Of course did most countries that sided with Hitler probably also dream about conquering land from Russia when Stalins armies had been defeated.
But Finland was quite moderate in their demands compared to other axis nations.
Finlands careful diplomatic attitude towards Russia in combination with its great little army saved the country from Soviet occupation in 1944. Stalin no longer saw them as threat. And getting peace with Finland would save many Russian lives, so Russia would be able to send more men towards Berlin. The war in 1944 was still a life and death struggle for both Germany and Russia, and losses had been heavy on both sides.
So securing peace with the finns was important. Finland was the poorest country in Europe, but its army that consisted of poorly equipped finnish conscripts and Swedish volunteers still proved to be a formidble opponent that time and time again punched above its own weight. Russian tank losses were high despite the finns only had panzerfausts and 1 armour division consisting of a few stuGs and captured russian tanks (KV1, T34, T26 etc).
Russia could probably have taken Finland in 1944. But the price would have been extremely high. Thousands and thousands of tanks and men would have died... and all what Russia would gain from its victory would have been the conquest of the poorest country in Europe filled with not much else than mosquitos, lakes and trees.
The war was going into a critical end phase in july 1944, and operation Bagration had not happened yet. So German army group middle still posed a great threat to Russia, and removing that threat would be more important than conquering Finland. And if Stalin changed his mind, then he could just crush nazi-Germany first, and then instead take over Finland in the post-war period during the cold war.
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1939-1940 I would say Bf-109 was better than most allied planes and equal to the rare spitfire. The Germans did however get more out of their machines since they made surprise attacks on other countries. They had experienced pilots. And they had better tactics and doctrines. In 1941 would those advantages make Germany able to destroy the worlds largest air force - the soviet one - in only 2 weeks. The Russians had some good planes, but bad pilots, logistics and the idea of lining up planes nicely on formation close to the border with Germany made them easy targets for German planes attacking the airfields. And in 1941 Germany finally brought the excellent FW190 into service which was probably the best plane in the world at that time. And Japan had the excellent Zero fighter as its naval based carrier, while USA had deployed mostly their outdated planes in the pacific while Japan attacked.
In 1942 things began to change. America had the resources to produce more planes than anyone else and they also knew the art of mass production. America had access to aluminium while other countries were starved of it. And America also had high quality oil in large amounts so they didn't need to sacrifice the performance of their airplanes like the Germans because unlike them did they have excellent aviation fuel.
But America also had many good aircraft designs early on in the war - P51, P47, P38. And P39, P40 and Wildcat was only slightly inferior to the axis planes and could still be quite competative.
And by the mid-1942 - only half a year after the war between Japan and USA had begun, did USA start to dominate skies totally and completly after the battle of Midway. And Japan would never recover from her loss. Her best pilots were now dead. And many planes had been lost. And things would only become worse for Japan since American planes would only become better and better technologically.
And Japan would also get less and less oil stolen from other countries transported to her homeland, so japanese pilot training would be very bad for the rest of the war. And while Japan would be able to compete with wildcats and hellcats... it would be very hard for them to take on later designs such as the Corsair and Bearcat and all landbased planes.
In 1943 did Germany begin to lose the dominance over the skies in the east. And the Germans had given the american P38 pilots in North Africa some beatings in the first round. And the daylight bombing raids the Americans did during their early involvement in the war generated catastrophic losses for themselves. And the German airforce would be able to put up a good fight in italy even in mid-1943.
But from here on would things go downhill.
And better versions of earlier allied planes came into being and La5, La7 and Yak9 would become superior to the old German planes and equals to their better ones - as FW190. And the P51D became one of the best planes of the war along with her successors like the P51H version. And the P47 and spitfire also got improved and remained a force to be reckon with.
The German He163 and me262 were for a short time the planes of the war. But not much with a wide margin, since since the American ace Chuck Yeger was able to shot down two such planes himself. And he was not alone in killing those rare birds.
At this late stage of the war did USA have the best propeller planes, and Britain was using their meteor which was a worthy opponent of the German jets.
So overall do I think that the Axis had better planes upto late 1941. And then the allies started to overtake the axis pretty quickly as America joined the war, the battle of Midway and Guadacanal meant the end of the japanese control over the skies.
And Germany did suprisingly well in their airwar considering the numerical superiority the allies had and their access to resources... while the Germans needed to build aircraft components of suitable materials and lacked the same good fuel the americans had.
They improved their Me109K so it could last to the end of the war. And old and failed planes like Bf110 found their role as nightfighters.
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I believe that M-55S would at best be equal to a western MBT of the 1990's. Perhaps equal to a Leopard1 or Leopard2A4.
While I believe that the un-upgraded T-55 tanks in Russian service would at best be roughly equal to a M48 Patton or a Centurion.
The skills of the tank crews will however be very bad on the Russian side, and given the total incompetence regarding tactics will I not be surprised if the 800 or so Russian T-55 tanks gets eaten up very fast without accomplishing anything - just like how the Russians wasting their tanks attacking Vuhledar and getting destroyed by mines and artillery before they even came into direct contact with their enemy.
And getting close to the enemy would not be fun for the russians as it would be extremely dangerous to them. The Ukrainians got large amounts of anti-tank weapons, and even old and relativly weak weapons like AT-4 and RPG-7 could easily wreck such machines.
And the Russians are sending in their T55 tanks without explosive reactive armor, but even if they had ERA I don't think it would help them much given the enormous amounts of anti-tank weapons in Ukrainian hands... at least 20.000 AT4 from the Swedish army alone, plus all thousands of RPG7, and strange exotic weapons like PV1110, to more familiar names like TOW, Carl-Gustaf, Stugna-P, Panzerfaust-3, Matador, MILAN, NLAW, Javelin, and so on.
So getting into close contact with enemy infantry will be dangerous. And given the long range of Javelin and Stugna-P that can reach 3000-4000 meters, I don't think that lobbing long range shots of direct fire would be risk free either. Just about any anti-tank weapon could kill that crap, and only long range between the tank and the enemy can prevent the enemy from using their RPGs and AT4s against it.
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 @RussianThunderrr Its not an oxymoron. It was a good tank. The problem was that it was not the type of tank Germany needed for the war they were fighting in 1944-45. It was too expensive to build, which resulted in low production numbers, which in turn made the problem of maintance worse... I mean if your tank needs to go often to repairs it doesn't matter that much if you got many thousands of tanks in reserve like the allies. But if you like the Germans only have 500 tanks (or less) spread out on three fronts that are ready for combat. And then you will of course have huge problems when your small number of local tanks have to be inactive because of maintance.
It was a good tank but in 1945 did Germany not have any fuel for them. And they did not have enough crews for them these machines that were too precious to be allowed to be lost. Nor could these tanks use their full potential because of the sad state of the army in 1945. They could not get air support because Luftwaffe had been trashed, they didn't have recon units that could warn them of enemy units and traps, their artillery was short on ammunition, the supporting infantry had been decimated and so on..
So of course could these tanks not be used properly most of the time. But when they was used properly they were invincable and not a single Tiger II was lost due to a frontal hit during the entire war.
"Well, you kinda over-glorify those AFV(aka SPG) that have serious limitation, that is why tanks are preferred as AFV then SPG, it was true during war, its still true into present day"
Not at all. The infantry loved the StuGs and they served Germany well throughout the war and produced a nice killratio. And their cost effectivess made them the most produced tank of the Wehrmacht.
I bet that the Germans would have loved to have many more Ferdinand tanks as well since they had the best killratio of any Axis or Allied tank used during the war. Turretless tanks have their advantages in protection, firepower and production cost.
The only reason why you would want a turret is if you do offensive combat and doesn't know which direction the enemy will come from, and then a turret gives you an advantage to fastly respond to the situation.
But the Germans was from 1943 and onwards fighting mostly a defensive war, and they kind of knew what direction their enemies would come from so they could prepare their defensive positions and set up ambushes and use their superior optics and low silhouette and prepared defensive positions to their advantage.
Also, remember that this was also a time before gyro-stabilizers and such, so a tank needed to stop before it would start firing. So not having a turret was not a big problem - the S-tank for example was one of the best tanks when it entered service.
And should Germany have need a few medium tanks for launching counter-attacks then they could just have used old Panzer IV tanks instead of VK30D.
From what I have read on the internet, did Guderian not want any new panther or VK30D line at all. He wanted as few production lines as possible, and thought it would be a better idea to give panzer IV a better gun and some sloped armour.
Something akin to the Panzer IV Ausf. K
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They built the panther-line, and then they built "fortified cities" and created the flak towers at Berlin. But they proved themselves to not be enough to stop the Russians.
The nazis made many incorrect priorities on where they should put their limited resources the last years of the war, and maybe a better handled defensive policy on the eastern front could have halted the Russians for some years.
Many special interests wanted the same steel and concrete as the defensive projects in the east used... steel which could be used for tanks, guns, warships, and concrete which could be used for building factories, and bunkers on the western front.
And manpower was needed to build all the fortification and dig all the tank ditches and trenches... but the industry also wanted workers, and the Hitlerjugend and volksturm units needed manpower, and all anti-aircraft guns in the German cities also needed manpower, so there was always this issue of limited resources.
And giving MG42 and panzerfausts to untrained useless infantry in Volksturm and Luftwaffe felddivision units were perhaps not the smartest thing to do when veteran Wehrmacht units often lacked the most modern equipment.
So could a great wall on the eastern front have been of a great use to the Germans?
I say probably. The distances on the eastern front are huge, so a Russian offensive would quickly run into supply as the attacker overextended themselves. And then the Russian troops would become very vulnerable to German counter-attacks and entire armies would become encirled and destroyed-
Landmines would inflict losses on the Russian troops without any sacrifice of German blood. And Russian offensives would be slowed down so Germany would have time to concentrate their forces and punch back the Russian attacks on one front after another.
And soon would the Russian military have suffered so big losses that they realize that they could not keep on attacking the German, because if the war was kept going this way then they would run out of Russian men before the German army had been defeated.
So the war in the east would then turn into a stalemate.
And just like in ww1 would the economiesing of troops of one front enable to free up army units to fight on another front. When you have barbed wirse, trenches, minefields, and bunkers prepared then you will need less men to defend one front, so then you could afford to send your solidiers away to fight on another front.
THe German army could send troops from the western front to fight on the east in 1914. And had the Wehrmacht done the same thing then they would have been able to do the same thing. And after the Russians had been tamed the Germans could have afforded to send more units away to fight on the western front.
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Feels like Russia have bought up much of our western politicians and media and tries to manipulate the public discussion in a pro-Russian way.
Trump, Salvini, Le Pen, AfD, Orban, Tucker Carlson have all proven themselves to be Pro-Russian traitors. They all do the talk about patriotism, and the need for their countries to show muscles - including military muscles. Former rightwing US presidents like Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon were strongly against Soviet-Russian totalitarianism during the Cold war. But the todays so called right do not say a blip when Soviet-Russia tries to annex a free country. They even go as far as strongly vocally supporting Putins Russian dictatorship and his war. Had someone expressed such ideas during the cold war it would have been seen as treason, and especially so in rightwing Thatcherite, Reaganite circles.
One can now say that the bought up fake populist right are basically just Putin-puppets that are anti-western, and anti its own people and always put Russian interest first before its own citizens.
Also on the far left do we see people bought up Putin. Among pro-Russian traitors have we got names like Noam Chomsky, Jimmy Dore, Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders.... and Gudrun Schyman here in Sweden. Plus some "charitable organizations" such as Amnesty international and Swedish Peace and Arbitration Society
Sometimes one can wonder if some people have been bought up by Putins oil money, or if they are just stupid and act as Putins useful idiots. Jason Unruhe (aka "Maoist rebel news") on youtube for example claims to be a maoist while he at the same time supports Putins rightwing fascism, imperialism and opression.
Much of the social media and TV have also been infiltrated by anti-western pro Kremlin elements. Tucker Carlson is probably the most obvious example. But you also got news channels that spreads Kremlin propaganda on youtube, like for example "The Real News Network". Sargon of Akkad and his gang at the youtube channel "The Lotuseaters" have been pro-russian from the start of this war, and some of the staff of this channel has openly admitted that they been getting a paycheck from Russia Today (which is the Russian state media TV channel).
Steve Turley is a rightwing talkinghead on Youtube which also have taken the very unlogical stance to support Putin, despite that would go against everything else he have said about rightwing ideas.. such as the right of a country to decide its own fate, democracy and nationalism. But that does strangely only apply when a country wants to be independent from the EU, but not when a country wants to be independent from Russia.
Some people have also openly participated on Russia today. And later on also supported Putins aggression on Ukraine.
Like for example economists such as the rightwinger Gonzalo Lira and the leftwing economist Michael Hudson.
And then of course there are a few centrist pro-Russian traitors. Olaf Scholz, the socialdemocratic leader of Germany, and Macron the president of France
The only solution to this problem as I see it is a total 100% boycot of everyone who have proven themselves to be a pro-Russian traitor. One should ignore their youtube channels and refuse to vote for them.
The west should also make large arms shipments to Ukraine as soon as possible to crush Russian imperalism as a force in this world. The monster should lose its teeths so it cannot go from talk to action. And Russias economy should be drained so it cannot afford to waste tonnes of money to try to buy up influencers in the west and infect our societies with their poison.
They also should be called out for what they are - traitors.
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 @iteachyou1575 I agree with John Keegan and Marco Smedberg that the fighting morale was in extremely bad shape in 1917 and that a German offensive could have crushed the French army, if they had managed to assemble large amounts of troops at this critical period of time.
After the "solidiers strike" would morale improve somewhat in the French army thanks to a combination of concessions and hard and cruel punishments for striking solidiers to set an example for their comrades that execution would await if they refused to follow orders. And more importantly did the French army agree to not making any more large offensives, and that was a message which the French solidiers wanted to hear.
And now we should discuss the next talking point.
The war in 1918. Personally I think Germany made a mistake.
It could either have launched all its force on the British army and knocked it out of the war, and then when France stood alone they could focus all their men at kicking France out of the war and the end conflict with a German victory.
Another solution of winning the war could have been to destroy the demoralized weak French army first, and the use all the last forces of Germany to throw Britain out of the continent.
But Ludendorff got confused at the last moment before the great battle would take place which would decide the outcome of the war. He launched one offensive against the British and one offensive against the French and his troops got spread out and failed to knock out either nation out of the war.
And then would more and more American troops come over the atlantic to fight the Germans.
If America had not joined the war, then Germany would probably would have won it by this point. But now was Germany too exhausted to keep on fighting after having to do all the fighting for herself (since her allies Turkey and Austria were worthless and lost almost all their troops the first months of the war.)
Germany had crushed Serbia, Russia, Romania, Italy and nearly also done so with Belgium, France and Britain... but in 1918 her power has been depleted and the 200,000 new American troops coming to Europe was too much for a country which had lost so many men and been under a blockade for 4 years.
Ludendorffs offensive is a case what can happen if you do not concentrate your forces to reach on objective.
As Sun Tzu warned us, "If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak".
And that is what always happens when you spread out your troops everyware. You will become weak everyware. And then you will not accomplish anything against your opponents.
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I think the EU is also to blame for much of this third way nonsense.
George W Bush was the worst president in US history and a warmonger and a war criminal. Many were rightfully pissed off with USA in the rest of the western world after its criminal war against Iraq, and the scandals at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, the CIA torture cells in Europe, the patriot act, the suspension of habeas corpus and the Geneva convention etc ect.
And in Europhile countries such as Germany was this used as an argument for a stronger EU, that should replace USA and Nato.
They wanted an EU army to replace NATO + USA. And the anti-Americanism wave that came with Trump's presidency increased this rethoric from the EU about the need for an EU army and to cut ties with USA, and to make a big EU that would stand on its own legs.
And in Germany did anti-Americanism flourish. And combined with old nonsense ideas such as the Ostpolitik - which was Germany's flirt with Soviet Russia to build friendship through economic trade, did this silly idea of power bloc between USA and Russia flourish.
And the EU would represent this third way.
But all what this stupid anti-Americanism from EU and Germany have managed to do is to cause division in the western world. Germany and France are often at conflict with USA... over trade, over contributions to Nato, over North Stream, over Franco-German ass kissing of China's dictatorship that throws Uighurs into concentration camps, and over taxing Microsoft yada, yada...
And all these conflicts are exploited by Putin.
Putin sees that the west are busy fighting with each other so it cannot organize a unified front against Russian imperialism.
When Canada and Sweden was bullied by China, did European countries dependent on Chinese trade not lift a finger to support their democratic allies in the west. So one can definatly say that Germany's double loyalties is a problem. It is throwing western countries under the bus because of its economic ties with China and Russia.
And to some extent can France and Germany also be blamed for the war in Ukraine as those countries blocked Ukraine's membership into Nato. And without Nato protection, did Putin see Ukraine as an easy prey for Russian aggression.
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