Comments by "Nattygsbord" (@nattygsbord) on "Tousi TV"
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@rayk0516 UK have been an EU member for decades so I think Britain got the know-how how to make products according to the standards of the EU market. I doubt this will be all totally forgotten by january next year.
"I remember how eastern european countries like poland, czech, hungary, looked like after they joined"
The EU might had some positive impacts regarding democracy and economic aid. But I also think it would have been possible for those countries to perform even better without the EU and neoliberalism.
Poland have been better performing than the other economies probably because it never joined the Euro.
The chock doctrine implemented against Latvia have destroyed that countrys economy. An entire generation of youths have left the country because their homeland offers no future for them. People are indebted to the banks and there are no jobs. And the Euro makes it impossible to devalue the currency to inflate away the debts and help exports.
Latvia used to be the silicon valley of the Soviet bloc where all the high tech computering and aviation industry was located. But now its economy is in ruin.
Countries like Latvia and Bulgaria had seen a demographic catastrophe the last two decades as young males have left their country to work in western Europe. And women cannot form families to keep the population numbers up, and without young workers does the tax base fall and it becomes harder to take care of the elderly.
"same happened in Spain, Portugal, Italy after they joined"
Only Romania got higher levels of poverty than Spain after all the austerity the EU have imposed on Spain.
Only Zimbabwe and Haiti did have crappier GDP growth rates than Italy the last decades (according to "The Economist"). And youth unemployment have still not recovered from pre-crisis levels in the Mediterranean countries. It is therefore no wonder why most youths in those countries have become Euroskeptics.
"The EU is not only FR and GE"
Well to be honest it is only FR and GE. The EU doesn't give a sh*t about smaller countries.
"it is historically proven that it is the longest peace period on EU grounds (Wars in 1864, 1866, 1878, 1912 etc.)"
This is one strange statement. What do you mean?
Europe have seen one conflict after another also after the EU has been created. Ireland, The Basque conflict, coup d'états in Greece and Portugal, The Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, the Cyprus conflict, the Balkan wars, the Chechen wars, Dagestan, Georgia, the Civil war in Ukraine etc, etc.
So if you say the 1800's was not a peaceful period. Then by the same standards you cannot argue that the period 1956-2020 have been any peaceful either.
Indeed. I think that the 1800's was much more peaceful than the 1900's.
And that in turn shows us that you do not need any EU to create peace.
"Cameron´s comment i do not know, never heard of. But i guess he was afraid what he started with the referendum leaving to a brexit that he did not want. It does not mean that his comment was literal."
Cameron was neither the first or the last person to use this argument to argue for the need of having the EU. Thunderf00t also said that Brexit would lead to another world war. So I don't know. Maybe there are people who actually do believe in this nonsense.
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@rayk0516
"i will continue to see the positive effects"
EU is positive in the same way as a positive AIDS-test.
"Enjoy hating the EU"
I was a guy who just wanted to play video games.
But the EU decided to f*ck with me and my country and could not just leave us alone. So reluctantly have I got involved in politics, with just one aim: Let the EU leave us alone.
"the crappy comment about smaller countries it does not make any sense"
I come from a medium sized country and I know that the EU is only following the will of France and Germany. Not even Britain had much say. And Spain and Italy have not much say even if they are nearly as big as France and Germany.
Sweden deserves better than just being treated as conquered province for resource extraction in the Merkel reich. This is a country of innovators, composers and great soldiers who took Moscow, Prague and Poland.
Germany is hypocritical. It demands that every other country must follow the rules no matter how dire the circumstances are. It talks about solidarity and demands that Sweden give EU more money. It demands that Sweden hands over its electricity production and natural resources and destroy its nature to show solidarity with the EU (or the German industry to be more precise). Germany demands that Sweden gives up its 200 year old tradition of peace and neutrality in foreign policy and joins a military alliance under the leadership of Merkel and Macron.
And Germany demands that Poland takes in refugees despite their country have been depopulated by all young men moving to the west. And now Germany wants to replace the Polish population with non-poles - and that is making people upset. Perhaps you think that Poles have the wrong opinion in this matter. But I ask you, do this really matter? It is not up to you and me to decide over Poland's fate. It is not our country.
This is a thing which only can be solved democratically by the Poles themselves.
Anything else, would just be German imperialism and fascism.
Germany's treatment of Greece is also beyond cruel. And it is also hypocritical. Germany did cheat on the EU budget rules just as much as Greece did before 2008. So Germany got no right to point fingers.
And demanding austerity while an economy already have 25% unemployment and starving children and a dramatic rise in suicides among Greek citizens show us that German leadership is both cruel and idiotic.
Germany demands stuff from other countries all the time, and gets what it wants. Even Sweden had to bailout German banks during the Euro crisis despite Sweden are not a member of the Euro currency.
Germany also demanded that all countries sided with her in the trade war against USA. Despite the other EU countries do not have any reason to fight with the USA. It is only Germany that have a large trade surplus with the USA - and that is the reason for the fight. Germany is dumping wages and playing unfair and stealing jobs and economic growth from other countries: USA and southern Europe.
French and Italian car producers sells nearly no cars at all to USA, so they have no reason to care about this tariffs on car imports. That is a German problem, not a European one.
So Germany and France puts gigantic demands on other EU countries to work on her behalf. But what do Germany and France do for the other countries and her allies?
- She steals their hospital equipment which they have already paid for. And they are doing so in the middle of a national emergency. Thousands of Italians died because of Merkel and Macron.
Germany also acts unwilling to help Eastern Europe to put sanctions on Russia to signal that Europe is not okay with Russian military aggression on its neighbors - because Germany cares more about doing business and make money than helping her East European EU friends.
- Germany also don't give a crap about following the same convergence pact budget rules that it says that all small countries have to follow.
- Germany cries and are being angry on Trump for him demanding that the country do honor her part of the Nato treaty and paying her fair share - which she have not done since the 1970's. Germany has been a parasite that has been free riding on the Nato military protection from USA...
And not only that, Germany does also refuse to help her Nato allies USA and UK in their sanctions against China when they break international treaties and crush every human right that exist. Because Germany do care more about making money for Germany, than helping her allies or serving any moral principles that doesn't mean economic benefits for Germany.
The list goes on and on...
I think I have been clear. EU is only ruled by the hypocritical, morally corrupt, and idiotic country called Germany.
Never have I been more proud of being a Swede than now. I wish I could go back in time to the 1600's so I could follow Gustavus Adolphus on his military campaigns and burn that damn country down into the ground while we occupied all of it.
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