Comments by "Nattygsbord" (@nattygsbord) on "Why did the Vikings Collapse?" video.

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  12. @Ghost Ghost " The crusader kingdoms lasted in palestine and syria for 200 years" I was not talking about them. I was talking about Jerusalem. "they never came back" A few stayed in the middle east. But they were a minority and too few to permanently keep Jerusalem in Christian hands. "after the Muslim reconquered those places many latin settlers with time converted to islam" Christians were the majority population in Lebanon up until the 1970s, until muslims started to have crazy birthrates and outnumber them. Same thing have happened in places in the Balkans where orthodox serbs have strongly outnumbered the muslims. But because of crazy birthrates have the muslims now become majority in many places. And many Christians have also been kicked out from the MENA-countries with violence the last century or so. With the wars in Algeria, Lebanon and the genocide against Armenia. "the leavent was much richer land in resources and agriculture and trade than their own home" Going to the holy land was an economic loss for most crusaders. To a modern person this is hard to grasp. All crusaders had their own motives, but the most common was a genuine will to liberate the city of God for Christianity and get forgiveness for your own sins. And after the crusade has succeed or failed - then did like 80-90% of the men go home within the next 2 years. The mission had been accomplished and God got his city and the person got his sins forgiveness, and guarding the city was someone else's problem they thought. Most people wanted to go home and see their families and rich people needed to go back to secure their power in the homeland and such. So very few stayed in the middle east. And personally I don't think it was much economic profit to be made to start a farm there. Furthermore was it a dangerous place so I guess you needed lots of religious dedication to start such a project. If money was your greatest wish, then I would say that it would be much easier to make money in Europe. And a warlord could make more profits by attacking a weak neighbor than launching a costly expedition far away. So the economic reason for the crusades were weak. And the religious reasons were strong. As I said earlier, this is hard to grasp for a modern non-religious person. And in a way do think this type of war is awful, brutal and cruel. Vikings just wanted to steal peoples property and then leave them alone. But the crusaders wanted to convert people. And control what other people think and how they lived. They did not make swift raid and then sail away. No they were planning to do a permanent military occupation of an area until it had been converted. And the Christians did not kill people left and right because enjoyed murdering people. No they murdered people out of love. If people did not convert they got murdered. And the Christians saw this as an act of love. By killing a sinner you did him a favor. If he died he could not commit sins and burn in hell for them. This is of course a weird wicked reasoning. But that's how people back then thought. This is how Swedish, Danish and German crusaders in Finland, Russia and the Baltics thought. And I would guess that crusaders in the holy land thought the same.
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