Comments by "H B" (@capitalb5889) on "12 News" channel.

  1. As a non-American, I'm confused by the whole thing. Why is a partisan group allowed to come in and "audit" election results?
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  2. ​ @Tzalmavet 16 hour shift? I had to work 25 hour shifts every day, and had to walk there on my hands over broken glass. But I was happy.
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  3. ​@RacquelB-i5eI am really impressed at the work ethic and skills of the young people coming into my firm, and they are nearly three decades younger than me. And as I am now getting closer to the end of my career, my work ethic is definitely diminishing 😅 - I'm paid well for something I enjoy, but there's no way I want to stick around at work until 10pm on a proposal.
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  4. ​ @renenowicki "silent quitting" means doing the job you are paid to do and not voluntarily doing extra. Which is pretty much how your employer treats you.
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  5.  @michaeljeanbaptiste2587  - I definitely get that you have people like that. We have them in my country too. But if election fraud is accused, there are established processes and procedures for doing it by independent group - you don't get some ragtag company coming in to do it on a whim. It's really odd. Even if they did find good evidence of fraud, their findings are already in doubt because the Cyber Ninjas are not an independent or skilled group. All this will do is confuse matters further.
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  6.  @melaniesipe60  - a Communist, socialist, fascist? You do realise that you can't be all of those things at the same time? Perhaps your should stick to terms you actually understand.
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  7.  @melaniesipe60  perhaps it is. Any ideas for a new insult? We need something to describe people who are gullible, drawn to a personality cult, have sympathy with racists, and believe that someone who is clearly doing nothing for them is actually helping them. It's a tough one to describe in a word!
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  8. LOL. Can't wait for this nothingburger report to be released. 4 and 1/2 months to produce nothing.
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  9. I think that's an exaggeration of what security is meant to do.
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  10. Were they too sick to press "send" on the email?
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  11.  @danopureblood7066  - but sadly you have evidence of this whatsoever
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  12.  @danopureblood7066  - we'll see, won't we. I think you might be a little disappointed. And I think if they'd found them we would know by now - it would have leaked out.
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  13.  @Misfitactual22  - I am questioning how this "audit" was launched despite a lack of evidence or reasonable suspicion that any fraud occurred. And so far, no one has provided any. When questioned, people such as you have given some vague responses, without any specifics. I suspect that if pushed, your reply would be ""DYOR!" And as is increasingly looking likely, if the "audit" finds nothing, you still won't accept that the AZ vote is non-fraudulent. Actually, let me put that to you directly - if the AZ audit presents no material evidence of widespread fraud, will you accept that the AZ vote was valid?
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  14. ​ @tina_s7508 if you don't have any immediate family members, I can understand that. Presumably her parents are dead and she lives alone. Perhaps someone did try to call her and she didn't pick up, but you don't necessarily think she's dead.
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  15. ​ @chrisprilloisebola it's possible that the back has cut back on Friday to Monday cleaning because hardly anyone comes into the office.
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  16.  @johnscheel3362  - ooh, I love a promise. Will you deliver it for me?
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  17.  @danopureblood7066  - but you have beliefs, not facts. They are just nothing more than faith, because you believe without evidence. And your faith is so strong that you believe that the evidence will support your faith. Personally I prefer to form my understanding of the world based on facts. It is actually possible you are right. I don't know - but to me there was insufficient evidence to launch an audit and it has all the hallmarks of an ideological stunt. You believe otherwise, based on faith.
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  18.  @danopureblood7066  - Joe Biden is your "evidence"? Wow, you are seriously far down the rabbit hole. Yes, the the man with the most votes and electoral college seats won - that's how it's meant to work. So what is the EVIDENCE? There won't be any, but no one will question that when you're on 4-chan or wherever, but you are here, and here you get questioned. And it is clear that you have nothing and can't even identify the initial evidence to commence an investigation in Arizona.
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  19.  @AwakenedOnes  such as?
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  20.  @AwakenedOnes  I’ve no idea what you are trying to say.
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  21. Wells Fargo recently sacked a load of people for using mouse jigglers to make it look like they were working. So they obviously remotely monitor what people are doing, but they didn't defect this?
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  22.  @crispychaos6768  the USA is beginning to appear like a banana republic rather than a beacon of democracy, as though something rotten had infected it.
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  23.  @Pottymouthgrandma  - the cyber ninjas are not independent. Dave Logan it's finder spread election fraud conspracies back in December, including tweeting the following: “After auditing the adjudicated ballots... you may discover Trump got 200k more votes than previously reported in Arizona.” He is a QAnon supporting crackpot. Despite the lack the company's qualifications to audit an election, they were selected for their lack of independence to investigate an alleged fraud for which there is absolutely no evidence other than unfounded allegations. And now they have completed the investigation and they found nothing. At least the Muller investigation uncovered widespread corruption and criminality among the Trump team.
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  24.  @Pottymouthgrandma  - a strange incoherent word salad there. What were you trying to say?
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  25.  @danopureblood7066  - I've been looking through news from 2019 and 2020 for mention of the Cyber Ninjas. I found one article in which there was a brief mention of them to do with Wi-fi security. They were clearly never a well known cyber firm. You really shouldn't believe everything you hear on Fox and OANN.
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  26.  @danopureblood7066  - would you be able to provide material evidence of any of these, or are you yet again just repeating unfounded allegations? I seek hard evidence. You provide unsubstantiated allegations. There is a difference, you know, even if not in your mind.
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  27.  @danopureblood7066  - the Democrats had no need to take part. There was no evidence of any fraud other than in the increasingly demented mind of the ex President and his followers, who believe him without question. Interestingly, the AZ Republicans have been fighting not to have the full audit results and methodology released. The courts told them that everything needs to be released so that any findings can be backed up. And then the Ninjas were just to ill to release their findings. What a coincidence.
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  28.  @danopureblood7066  - and so will you! (Or lack of it). But if they'd found a smoking gun we'd have heard about it by now.
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  29.  @danopureblood7066  - as yet we have seen no hard evidence. Just allegations, without evidence. You believe that there is overwhelming evidence. Unless you have personal access to the evidence, which I doubt, this is just your hope, based on the evidenceless allegations of a loser President. But let me know what the evidence is when the top organization the Cyber Ninjas feel well enough to go back to work.
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  30.  @danopureblood7066  - I certainly can't dispute bthe facts. Biden won the election and not a shred it hard evidence has been presented to suggest otherwise. What there have been is unevidenced allegations which some choose to accept because it aligns to their political views and conspiratorial mindset. Prepare to be disappointed when the Ninjas grudgingly turn in their assignment.
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  31.  @danopureblood7066  - so when's this audit going to be published? Perhaps this small firm of cyber consultants don't have a clue what they're doing. Will the publication date keep being pushed back, like the date of Trump's reinstatement? You know, there is nothing more undignified than a bad loser. While Trump never had much dignity to begin with, he's now lost what little he did have.
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  32.  @22guru  "not biased"? What makes you say that when the head of the Cyber Ninjas was already tweeting conspiracy nonsense in 2020 about the election. But however biased they are, it doesn't change the fact that they have found nothing, and like a kid who hasn't finished his homework assignment, they all call in sick.
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  33.  @danopureblood7066  - that's not a smoking gun, that just repeating an opinion! And you don't even give his name. I've also just googled that phrase and nothing has come up. What's your source for that quotation?
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  34.  @Misfitactual22  and from the sounds of things, there is no evidence - we would have heard of it by now
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  35.  @Misfitactual22  -we're all waiting for the long overdue forensic report. Of course, there was insufficient evidence to launch the audit in the first place, but now it has begun, let's see what it says. Given that it is being run by a conspiracy theorist who had tied his colours to the fraud mask long ago, it is highly partisan, but real facts don't lie. That is obviously why the AZ Republicans were fighting to keep the detailed methodology used by the Cyber Ninjas secret. I would offer my house to you if they find anything concrete, but sadly I've offered it elsewhere already.
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  36.  @Misfitactual22  I'm not part of the investigation, but as there was no reason to launch an investigation in the first place, it seems unlikely that they will find anything. The lack of noise coming from the auditors suggests that they haven't found anything.
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  37.  @Misfitactual22  - good question. I would start with the common sense approach - like what starts the police on an investigation to a murder or a bank robbery. Or more pertinently, what starts an investigation into fraud at a company, such as assets being overvalued, cash reserves inexplicably low and accounts not balancing. My personal experience is in finance. Initially related to money laundering/tax evasion - was the customer behaviour consistent with normal behaviour or what you would do in an attempt to commit fraud. More recently, I initiated and oversaw a forensic investigation into certain practices at a large banking group. There was material evidence of weakness in order to launch the investigation. If I were to apply those standards to AZ, it doesn't seem to meet any of those. There are allegations, but no evidence has been presented. So I would want to see some evidence that rises above the level of what could be considered a malicious and misleading allegation. So far I have seen none, so conclude that this is a malicious, misleading and politically motivated "audit".
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  38.  @Misfitactual22  "we have tens of millions who believe our election process is vulnerable" - because they listened to a man who claimed there was an audit because he was too proud to admit he lost. I still can't see any evidence of fraud - people throw out vague references to things like "algorithms", but when you dig into what they actually mean, there is nothing there. Like at the time many people were claiming that in X county there were more votes than registered voters. When pushed for numbers of either, they had nothing. The claims disappeared. Let's have something concrete that says, yes, we need to investigate this. I haven't seen anything yet. And nor apparently have the auditors.
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  39.  @Misfitactual22  - algorithms are used for far more than selecting news stories! And it was you that quoted it as evidence of fraud. I stand by what I said earlier - I have seen nothing that would be strong enough to launch a fraud investigation.
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  40.  @Misfitactual22  it was also highly suspicious that the Arizona Republicans were fighting to have the detail of the audit kept secret, which was thrown out by the courts. No wonder the audit is delayed again because they have to make public methodology and evidence.
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  41.  @Misfitactual22  - most countries allow voting without ID. Not something very unusual. In my country it is a right to vote but no one is obligated to carry ID. We know the real reason behind this - the vast majority of people without ID are likely to be poor and more likely to vote Democrat.
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  42.  @Misfitactual22  - voters without ID are disproportionately low income, from racial minorities and the elderly. There is also no evidence that the voter ID issue leads to material fraud. There will always be a handful of exceptions, of course. And "poor" is not just those collecting food stamps. "Intellectually bankrupt" is a big statement coming from an intellectual pygmy.
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  43.  @Misfitactual22  and I've just checked - you don't need photo ID to get food stamps in the USA. Get your facts right before making yourself look an idiot
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  44.  @Misfitactual22  - it's a very good word! And an apt description of you, you must agree :)
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  45.  @skidmoda  I'm not that close to the day to day, but I was struck by how the republicans sought to keep the audit records secret, until a judge ordered them to be made public. I think that makes them look pretty bad and their motives suspicious.
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  46.  @skidmoda  I'm still struggling to see what the anomalies were. If you read through the chat, those who believe that the election was fraudulent do not present reasonable cause to commence an investigation. But now it has started, it will be interesting to see the results. But it looks like there is nothing to suggest any fraud took place.
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  47.  @Misfitactual22  Exciting day - the audit results are coming.
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  48.  @danopureblood7066  "you’ll be seeing the evidence soon enough!" - I can't wait, Dano. Let me know if you hear anything
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  49.  @22guru  "The first two audits were biased this is the one that's not" - great. Then I guess we can trust the results.
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  50.  @Misfitactual22  "I’ll wait on the forensic report rather than trust a news actor" - sounds like the time for waiting is nearly done
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  51. ​ @nikistory8710 obviously no one talked to her - she was dead.
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  52. ​ @koreyb I don't think you can be embarrassed when you're dead.
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  53. ​ @nt4081 if they did call her, I'm sure they did notice that she didn't pick up the phone.
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  54. And as cyber experts they can hardly blame malware for problems.
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  55.  @danopureblood7066  You "believe"? The world works on facts, not belief systems.
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  56.  @danopureblood7066  - didn't you read my earlier post? You need evidence that the crime has been committed. In the case of a murder investigation, it helps to have a dead body with probably cause that it was murdered. Of course, the police do not always need a dead body, but they need sufficient evidence that one has taken place. Where is the proverbial dead body in relation to AZ? There isn't one as far as I can see.
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  57.  @danopureblood7066  "it’s now a given that President Trump won, that’s indisputable" Given that no evidence has been presented to suggest that Trump won, there is no dispute over Biden's overwhelming victory and Trump's humiliating defeat. Now where's that report? Three week's overdue, or are those Ninja guys still too poorly with COVID to press "send" on their email?
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