Comments by "Holly Grant" (@hollygrant9264) on "" video.

Don't just tell us. Show us. Educate us. Prove to me that what I am seeing, hearing, and reading myself is a lie.
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Don't just tell us. Please show us. Disprove it. Educate us. Prove to us that everything we have seen, heard, and read ourselves is a lie. I'm being sincere. Quite literally.
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@criostoirodriscoll5472 No problem.
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All of them? I recall Aviva Siegel saying Hamas ate in front of them while they went hungry. And Andrey Koslov said they smothered him beneath piles of blankets during the summer. Amit Soussana spoke of sexual abuse from her captor. Qaid Farhan Alkadi said he watched an older hostage slowly die without medical care. I didn't know they publicly retracted those statements to say Hamas fed and treated them well. Can you provide the link please?
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@MysticMyst-1 You're not wrong. Their silence says a lot about their knowledge on the topic.
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Burden of proof is on you. Go for it. I am interested in seeing your evidence to discredit what I have seen, read, and heard myself.
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Not even close. These stories have been out there since November 2023.
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@criostoirodriscoll5472 Great response. It really shows how knowledgeable you are on the subject. I'd say you represented your side of the argument well.
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Can you please provide the evidence that debunked this video?
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@bodleyibolya7850 Can you please provide evidence that will debunk this video?
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@bodleyibolya7850 That's not evidence. Saying words does not disprove anything. You've made a claim. The burden of proof is on you to make us see the truth. You say they are staged. Prove it. I have seen, heard, and read the reports. Give me the evidence that would debunk it.
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@bodleyibolya7850 If it is so easy to see the truth why are you having such a hard time providing it? I have openly invited you to debunk this video. You have a chance to provide proof that will set me straight. Go for it.
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@bodleyibolya7850 And yet you are the one who still cannot defend your own statement. I haven't argued with a single thing you've said. In fact, I invited you to share the truth with me. If you are so obviously right, why is this so difficult for you? You said the video is a lie. Now back up your claim by providing the evidence.
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@bodleyibolya7850 We were talking about this video. You said it was full of lies. I asked how you were able to disprove it. The only thing you've proven so far is that you can't prove what you said was true.
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It is all over the mainstream media and has been since November 2023.
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Do these men look healthy and well cared for to you?
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@robertovalero6186 I'm not sure how that response related to my very simple question, but it wasn't an answer. Do these three men look healthy and well cared for to you?
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If you need to check that the sky is blue just because someone said it isn't you are clearly incapable of differentiating the truth from a lie.
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You can find interviews with Aviva Seigel, Amit Soussana, Mia Schem, Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Koslov, Moran Stela Yanai, Sharon Aloni Cunio, Noa Argamani, and several others.
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@N.Mpenwarrior So, "I want to see live interviews, but I will discredit the live interviews and there aren't many live interviews anyway but the live interviews from November '23 shouldn't be believed if they said mean things about Hamas but the live interviews from November '23 should be believed if they said good things about Hamas." Got it. Keith Seigel, Doron Steinbrecher, Ohad Ben Ami, and Yair Horn have already released statements, too, by the way.
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@N.Mpenwarrior The last four names I gave you were hostages just released this year. Three of the others were rescued last June. Can you provide links or names or data of hostages saying nice things about Hamas while they're not in captivity? Also, which video of Turbanov are you referring to? The recent one where he was told he was being released or the other two videos he made in captivity when he was talking of his dire need for rescue?
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@N.Mpenwarrior You discredited the "very old" statements by former hostages and then use Yocheved Lifschitz who gave one of the very first statements ever, made immediately after her release while Hamas still held her husband captive. I asked for videos of hostages outside of captivity. Most of these you're referring to was during captivity. And if you're referring to the letter Daniella Aloni wrote in captivity, she delegitimized it herself in an interview some months later. You didn't clarify which video you're referring to with Trubanov, but I don't know what his speaking Hebrew has to do with it. Can you now provide proof of hostages saying nice things about Hamas outside of captivity?
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@N.Mpenwarrior It's interesting you say I'm trying to avoid dialogue when every response I've given has related to the topic you started. You called this video fake because it has no live interviews, but you don't want to talk about other interviews with hostages making similar statements. You claimed most hostages didn't say mean things about Hamas. I asked you who they were and you offered a few flawed examples and "the many who haven't rushed out with comments" though I'm not sure how you know they exist if they haven't made public comments. I've invited you to share data to back your claims. Now you suddenly don't want to talk about it anymore. I do like your line about me not wanting to elevate the discussion though. It's a great way to try and get off the topic you are clearly trying to divert from.
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@N.Mpenwarrior I have looked them up. They don't exist on my Internet, but I would welcome a list. Please give me the names of the hostages who said nice things about Hamas after they were released from captivity. And remember, you claimed it was the majority so the list should be lengthy. I did point out the flaws. I asked for statements after captivity. You gave me one. You named female IDF soldiers who made statements during captivity. You used Daniella Aloni as an example and I pointed out that that she did an interview that delegitimized the claims she made in captivity. I already pointed all of that out and you never even countered what I said which was odd. And you keep trying to accuse me of avoiding dialogue we were never engaged in which is also odd.
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@N.Mpenwarrior "there have not been many circulating at all and most of them from Nov 2023 release and most of them from 2023 release explain they were treated humanely" "the point is the majority of comments from released prisoners and hostages have NOT been mean about Hamas" That was a valiant gaslighting effort on your part, but I never rewrote your words. All I asked was for you to prove up on them. My guess is that since you can't you're attempting to put a different spin on them. That video from the IDF soldiers was made before they were handed over to the Red Cross. Hamas is the one who released it. Who do you think filmed it? Why were three of these women in previous videos in captivity begging to be rescued? Why would Karina Ariev already release a public statement calling her time in Gaza a nightmare? And why would I go into another topic with you when you've failed to prove anything you said in this one was true?
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@N.Mpenwarrior I'm expecting at least a couple dozen from you. You said the majority of former hostage statements said "not bad things" about Hamas. I would like to see those please. I have given you about a dozen names who said "not good things about Hamas" and can provide several others, so that means you're going to need to provide at least a couple dozen MORE to back your claim. See, when you use words like "majority" that means you need to provide MORE names than I did to prove your point. I hope that helps iron out the confusion on your part.
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@N.Mpenwarrior You're showing me clips I've already referenced. Yocheved Lifschitz was in captivity for all of 17 days, but you act as though that speaks for all of the past 500. You just showed a lot of ignorance by claiming those IDF soldiers look like they're in love with their captors. Were the smiling male hostages in love with Hamas, too? Did the thought not cross your mind that it's early yet and these young women will most likely start publicly sharing their experiences in the near future? What's more likely to happen? They'll either share experiences similar to all the other released hostages or they'll come out and say they fell in love with the men who bloodied them, tied them up, kidnapped them, murdered their friends, and held them against their will for over a year.
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@N.Mpenwarrior You're not getting anywhere with this. If you're going to try to twist the words of any hostage to fit your narrative Aviva Seigel is the worst one you could've picked. She has done numerous interviews where she spoke of how Hamas assaulted hostages, beat her husband, and starved them. Her husband Keith was released less than a month ago and already said he was starved and kicked. Almog Meir Jan gave a full interview in which he said not one good thing about Hamas. You're grasping at straws. Where are the majority of hostages who said "not bad things" about Hamas?
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@N.Mpenwarrior Why do you keep bringing up stuff we weren't talking about? This had nothing to do with these soldiers' interview with the general. And how is it every time you quote Yocheved Lifschitz you never include her referring to her time in captivity as hell? And why would you focus on a 16-month old quote from her and not the one released by Keith Seigel less than a week ago? You said you wanted new quotes, not old ones. And the length of Karina's video is irrelevant. We both know if she had spent less than a minute saying good things about Hamas you would post that link in a heartbeat.
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@N.Mpenwarrior I thought you said it was easy to track who has and hasn't released statements. Maybe try looking for sources outside of pro-Hamas media?
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Seriously though, I'm really not trying to spar with you. I just think you're very ill-informed. There's actually a ton of information out there from many different released hostages. You'll just have to make sure you're looking outside of biased programming. Most of the interviews I saw were on YT so you might just have to do a little searching. You can also find videos outside of YT and also read interviews with various media sources. Aviva Seigel has been very outspoken about her experience so you should be able to find multiple statements from her, some even of her speaking live on news programs. Amit Soussana went public with her experience of sexual assault back in the summer and if you type in her name you'll see various clips. Moran Stela Yanai did a really interesting sit-down debate with a pro-Hamas advocate and I believe I saw that one on YT. I promise the information is out there and there's a lot more than you must realize.
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@N.Mpenwarrior Your credibility is just destroyed at this point. You did finally prove something though. This was never about the lack of interviews. You have already made up your mind to discredit every interview-past, present, and future-that doesn't tell you exactly what you want to hear and this last comment proves it. You are just clinging with white knuckles to anything you can twist to support your narrative and it is actually quite sad to watch. My only hope is that if anyone else reads our conversation, they will see your inability to back any of your absolutely empty claims and be encouraged to seek out the truth for themselves.
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@N.Mpenwarrior Yes, I already know her story and was surprised it took you this long to think of her. Congratulations. You found a person. I am genuinely glad for her that she did not leave Gaza deeply traumatized and also genuinely sad for her that Hamas murdered her husband. Now you'll have to forgive me for no longer having an interest in anything you have to say. I've just learned your favorite terrorist group is preparing to return four hostages to their families in body bags tomorrow including Yocheved Lifschitzan's 84-year old husband and Yarden Bibas' wife and their 4-year old and 9-month old children. The last person I care to engage with right now is someone who defends and supports evil.
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Can you please provide the evidence that allowed you to debunk this video?
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Eden Yerushalmi was filthy and weighed less than 80 pounds before Hamas executed her in a tunnel. They planned to put the female IDF soldiers on stage in front of the media. Do you believe they would have paraded Eden onto that stage looking the way she did the day they murdered her? Or is it possible they might've ensured the soldiers were showered, fed, and had clean clothes before putting them on public display?
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