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@onlyhereformoney175 I dunno dude, you might, but I talk to a lot of people who think Capitalism is okay.
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Capitalism is tyranny, there is no Western democracy. Communism is a more democratic system, the workers have the power, that's what democracy is. Democracy isn't voting for which millionaire will serve corporate interests, the fact that you get to vote on a corporate mascot isn't democracy.
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Capitalism sucks. https://youtu.be/x9tS_D1nqPw
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Audio is terrible
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@mikestokes8140 um, try the majority of people who live in the former Soviet union? Stalin had a higher approval rating than Putin in 2019, 30 years after his death. A lot of people miss the Soviet union, it wasn't perfect but it was better than a neoliberal society that is slowly destroying itself. Full employment, healthcare, workers rights. More free time, stable economy. You know the bread people got in bread lines was free? Meanwhile you and I have to line up in bread lines every week called grocery stores and we have to pay for the bread.
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@user-pj4vs5bb3u It literally has everywhere it's been tried. Don't call me an idiot, you're the one who doesn't actually know anything about it, if you did you would agree with me.
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@nicholaselich1661 Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankaras leadership. Brazil under President Lula. Bolivia under Evo Morales. Vietnam, who beat a world superpower in war and rebuilt their country and population after millions of people were slaughtered. The Soviet union, who went from a preindustrialized nation to a world superpower in a few decades, the most any country has progressed and modernized in that short of amount of time in human history. They had full employment, healthcare for everyone, a flourishing culture if music, philosophy and art. The defeated the Nazis losing half the country and it's infrastructure in the process (the equivalent to the United States losing the entire east coast and most of the middle of the country) and they still managed to rebuild and win the space race. There are dozens more examples, from Socialists in Austria solving their homelessness problem, to Cuba achieving nearly zero percent homelessness and having better access to healthcare and a lower infant mortality rate than the United States, all while being under their thumb. Communism has worked to improve the lives of people everywhere it's been tried, it outperforms capitalism in every standard of living, it's scientifically proven to be a better system. The fact that communism, or more accurately, socialism improves the lives of people is understood by Capitalist countries like the United States. That's why they spend trillions trying to undermine any communist country through economic warfare, or support coups of violent dictatorships that will be American puppets, or fund right wing death squads that round up and kill people, or simply try to assassinate their leaders. You know the CIA has openly admitted to interfering in Democratic elections in Latin America over 50 times and the tried and failed to assassinate Fidel Castro over 600 times? If communism didn't work and magically failed on its own then they wouldn't waste billions of dollars trying to stop it from continuing to work.
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@nicholaselich1661 You think everyone in those countries hates those governments? Are you sure about that bud? How do you know that's true?
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@nicholaselich1661 I can almost guarantee you've never heard of Burkina Faso and you don't actually know if anyone left there under Sankara to come to America for a "better life". I'm talking about specific instances in history, you're just asserting vague generalizations that you've heard but you don't know how true or accurate they are.
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@nicholaselich1661 Really disappointed you just dismissed me instead of engaging with my ideas, I was being honest and arguing in good faith.
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@nicholaselich1661 Do you think more people leave Socialist countries than those who stay and support the Governments they democratically elected? I would like to see some evidence of that, I think that's extremely debatable. I'm well aware of the popular narrative that people "flock to Capitalist countries from Socialist ones" but I don't really buy it. I'd love to see the stats your trust that led you to believe that. Global poverty has increased under capitalism, there are more people living in poverty now than there were 40 years ago, things are getting worse for the middle class and lower classes, they have been for a long time. Capitalism hasn't created any scientific advancements btw, economic systems don't create anything, labour does. The economic system just decides who gets paid and how much. There were plenty of scientific advancements made in the soviet union, they won the space race. Scientists and inventors don't just advance technology for money, they would do the exact same things under a different economic system. Maybe under a more egalitarian Marxist system we wouldn't have corporations making $1000 smartphones that are planned to be obsolete in a year or two so they can release another one. It's just blatantly not true that capitalism has created more wealth and prosperity throughout the world then socialism. The opposite is true. Would you like to see the information I have that leads me to believe this?
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How does that automatically invalidate your argument?
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You say that like it's a bad thing. Better than the neoliberal ideology of most corporate media.
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You stand in bread lines all the time, it's called a grocery store. You even have to pay for the bread. Communist bread lines were for free bread for the most needy people. Much better than what happens under capitalism every time there a crisis.
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@abudgie6909 I would argue the only difference between the American prison system and Gulags is that Gulags have a scarier name.
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@standardgigachad3297 You think the CIA spends billions funding coups and right wing death squads because Socialism is inherently flawed? If socialism didn't work the CIA wouldn't waste billions trying to sabotage it everywhere it's implemented. Like, actually give it a moments thought.
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Good. Communism is based.
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Why? Capitalism is literally killing us.
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@OstojaSRB You think capitalism provides freedom?
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Actually it has, many times. You've just never bothered to look.
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@abudgie6909 Wow, a positive response to me speaking facts about socialism? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Thanks, a very nice change from being called delusional or evil because I think every human life has value regardless of productivity and we as society should work together to provide for each other's basic needs as a global community. It's sad that the world got so cynical that the idea of utopia is considered something to be laughed at.
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Socialism is a more effective system tham Capitalism. Have you seen the state of capitalism lately?
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@FraterL Everyone flocks to the United States because it has better economic opportunities because the United States actively makes the rest of the world worse. It has nothing to do with the United States being a democratic land of freedom. More people have Left the United States in the past few years than entered it anyway, this narrative that everyone is flocking to the United States simply isn't accurate. Tell me what aspects of your life you have democratic control over? You get to vote for a new corporate mascot to serve the will of corporations and not fix anything in the country every four years, that isn't democracy. It's the illusion of democracy. You have no control over almost any aspect of your lives, corporate lobbyists have more influence over what laws get written and passed than you do. You don't have any control over your life at work, Capitalist businesses are by design tyrannys that are controlled by the boss, owner or board of directors. You have no control over how much you pay for healthcare and insurance, corporations charge you as much as they like, what else are you going to do, die? Capitalism is tyranny, it's the opposite of democracy and freedom. Capitalism only provides freedom for the rich, and there are still millions of people who believe they can go to America and become rich through hard work alone but it isn't true. Just because millions of people believe something doesn't mean it's true. Everyone used to believe the world was flat, but it never was. Capitalism is a terrible system and more people are waking up to that fact.
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@ashyowl You aren't smarter than Einstein bro, I bet you couldn't even define what Marxism is or describe why you believe it's bad.
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Capitalism sucks. https://youtu.be/x9tS_D1nqPw
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Is this supposed to be a critique or what?
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@Osiris_fc That doesn't make any sense. There is no contradiction, it's impossible to live under global capitalism and not participate in it. Anti-capitalism is still the right thing to do, we can escape capitalism and make the world better.
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@Osiris_fc So if someone is truly an anticapitalist then they shouldn't participate in a Capitalist society? Where should they go, the moon? Mars? You can criticize society while still taking part in society, that isn't a contradiction. It's impossible to exist outside of Capitalist society, the guy still needs to pay for food you know. Use your brain. That isn't an intelligent argument, it barely qualifies as an argument at all. Tell me how an anticapitalist is supposed to live in a Capitalist dominated world? How could he behave in a way that isn't contradictory in your opinion?
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@Osiris_fc Some anti-capitalists have wealth therefore capitalism is good? Or are you just insinuating no one is actually anti-capitalist, that it's all a grift? I don't care if Bernie has 4 houses, doesn't change the fact that Capitalism sucks and we need to dismantle it and build something better.
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@Osiris_fc Just because someone is making money off the message doesn't mean the message doesn't have value. I don't need people to be perfect or meet up to some arbitrary standard you've invented in order for them to be a valuable anti-capitalist, what they are doing is still better than most other politicians. Both AOC and Sanders are rich because all politicians are rich, politics pays well. It has nothing to do with their message, the message might be what gets them elected, but it's taxpayers making them through their salary. They are both in favour of raising taxes on the rich, which includes them. How about let's raise taxes on the rich until Bernie has to sell his houses, I'm sure he will be cool with that. They have both done more for working people than anyone else with that much power had in the past 20 years. Capitalism is a scam, a system that favours those who have, built on the backs of the have nots. They manufacture consent through the lie that all that is needed to succeed and become someone who has is hard work. Thankfully more people are waking up to that lie and see that it's BS. Capitalism sucks. Let's build something better.
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@Osiris_fc I understand the point. Doesn't change the fact that Capitalism is a bad system. Anti-capitalism is still valid even if the most prominent anti-capitalists are millionaires.
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@Osiris_fc I understand that you think they are hypocrites, I personally don't, my standards for how poor someone has to be to be an anticapitalist are less than a billion dollars, idgaf about millionaires. If they are allies in my fight against capitalism, I'm good with them. We don't have to agree on those standards. Now to the big question. Capitalism, good or bad? What you think?
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@mikestokes8140 If it was so bad then why were so many more people staying? Have you ever questioned who tells you that so many people were fleeing and whether they have a vested interest in overinflating how many people were fleeing? Ever considered that it's a narrative that is more anticommunist propoganda than actual fact? No one hates communism more than Capitalists, because capitalism is the system that gives them power over everyone else. Communism is more democratic and puts the power in the workers hands, they don't want to work. They want to live like kings off wealth accumulated through owning the means of production and exploiting labour. Question the narratives the elites feed you, they are looking out for their own interests, not yours or mine.
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@mikestokes8140 Millions of people are starving to death every year under global capitalism, so if your goal is to reduce starvation then Communism is the best option. Food security overall was more stable in Soviet union than in the United States. You're absolutely correct that millions of Ukrainians starved. That's because there was a worldwide famine and Russia basically took all their food. Like the British did during the Irish potato famine. That was obviously terrible, but it was a choice made by those in power. Starvation and famine are not caused by communism, it isn't a feature of the system. We don't have to make those same mistakes again, we are much better at producing food now and we could distribute it based on need to be sustainable and eliminate waste and starvation, every citizen deserves food. There's enough food for everyone on earth, more than enough. Scarcity is manufactured for profit. We can learn from the mistakes made by the soviet union and adopt the things that worked really well. I acknowledge that it wasn't perfect and atrocities were committed by those in power. But can you acknowledge that you've been told almost nothing about the many things that they did well? Many aspects of life were better in the Soviet union than in the United States at the time, you should analyze why those things weren't covered in your education.
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@mikestokes8140 Full employment. Access to healthcare for all workers. When workers produced surplus to requirements they got more free time, so instead of slaving away for a wage and all the profits go to the owner, profits were more fairly distributed amongst workers and they were actually rewarded for hard work with paid time off. Compare that to Capitalism where you get paid the same and work long hours no matter how hard you work, and all surplus goods are just converted into profits for the owners pockets or are destroyed if they can't be solved. I understand that you think Capitalism is the superior system, I did too, we all have that drilled into our heads our entire lives. But it just isn't true. The only reason you believe capitalism is better is because you don't know anything about the benefits of socialism and those in power work very hard to make sure you know all the bad in a socialist system (even outright lying about it) while downplaying the flaws of capitalism, or just lying about it. You really should look into it more. The CIA has spent trillions of taxpayers money on destabilizing any country that implements left wing policies to try and improve people's lives. So not only do things keep getting worse for the working class in America, their tax dollars are being spent making people's lives worse in other countries so the taxpayers don't question the system they have no power in. Socialism is a better system, it's more democratic, sustainable and stable.
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@mikestokes8140 This video might be a good start for learning more about socialism and it's benefits, it's about 12 min long. https://youtu.be/FEHYeeRCtVI
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Communism is literally the opposite of the current establishment.
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@ruoazquara6070 Capitalism is not just a concept, it's a corrupt system built on human misery and exploitation. Most people can picture the end of the world more than they can picture the end of capitalism. It's the greatest evil we've ever created and it will probably kill us all.
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@ruoazquara6070 The Soviet union went from a preindustrial fuedal nation to a space faring world superpower in a few decades, has never been done before or since. Capitalism is an economic system, it is not the only system for human advancement, it's not magic. There are other ways, better ways.
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@nicholaselich1661 How am I delusional? You seem to be the one who doesn't know much actual history and is just repeating propoganda you've heard. I'm perfectly capable of having a productive conversation, if you don't want to engage and consider the possibility that you could be wrong then that's on you. I'm extremely open to your perspective, I just happen to think mine is more compelling based on, you know, evidence. But if you just want to pretend I couldn't possibly be correct then go for it, you asked me a question and I answered it. I'm happy to discuss the details in a mature manner if you are. But if that's too much for you then that's okay too. I'm just being honest about my positions and why I believe them.
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@nicholaselich1661 I'm being honest. If you are being honest too then an honest Convo can absolutely happen here. I'm not the one stopping that from happening. Why don't you just share with me your belief and why you believe them? Or ask me more questions if you prefer.
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@abudgie6909 very true.
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https://youtu.be/x9tS_D1nqPw
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@FraterL You know the government has the potential for being democratic? Corporations are tyrannys. We can't solve systemic problems without systemic solutions. Governments have the potential for making our lives worse but they are also the most effective method for making our lives better. Corporations are trying to create a dystopia, I would argue they already have.
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@FraterL You want me to list all the governments that haven't led to tyrannys? Is that what you are asking me to do?
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@FraterL Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara wasn't a tyrannical government, his Socialist policies vastly improved the lives of his people. President Lula in Brazil reduced wealth inequality more in a few years than previous administrations had on decades, the economy grew five times the size in just 3 years. You realize Capitalism is already Tyranny right? Where do you live? How much democratic control do you have over your country and your life?
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@soyboylegends7832 The point is that capitalism provides mind numbing, repetitive unfulfilling work, that doesn't even pay very well, usually just enough to be able to afford to live. Under communism not only could we work less hours, fewer days a week, we could be paid more for our work and have some say in how we do our job, some control over how it's done, it can made more fulfilling. Working 30 hours a week in an Amazon factory still won't be the best job, but if pays you enough to be able to live comfortably, pay for all your food, enjoy your free time and go on holiday every year, plus being able to take bathroom breaks without being punished or losing compensation, well it would be a lot better than the current way we do things. Amazon's workers won't ever be able to live decent lives with dignity so long as all the profits are going into Jeff Bezos pocket and his executives bonuses. The factory workers do the actual hard work, the company would be nothing without them. Amazon should be nationalized and integrated into the post office, all employees should be paid more than a living wage and work 4 days a week for less hours. Studies have shown that working less for shorter amounts of time is better for worker productivity and efficiency, as well as overall job satisfaction and well being. There are better ways to organize our means of production and distribution, we should try them and build a more democratic egalitarian future that provides a good life for all human beings, not just the 1%.
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Capitalism NEEDS poverty and the poor. It's a bad system. https://youtu.be/x9tS_D1nqPw
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