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Comments by "marie c" (@mariec3733) on "Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life: Can They See Eye To Eye? | Middle Ground" video.

@sumeersamarat706 uhm...murder is a legal term, not a biological term. I'm not sure you know what you're saying. Murder is unlawful killing, so if it's legal it's not murder. You should educate yourself before speaking gibberish.
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@Humanity Galatica Thinking you deserve to make a decision for another person's body and health is wrong, 100%.
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@Humanity Galatica You literally are doing that same thing you dense soul. And morals are self explanatory. It's morally wrong to force and punish women into things affecting their bodies, health and lives.
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@Humanity Galatica Just because you don't like to acknowledge anything with this argument doesn't mean it's irrelevant. I like how you say that to everything that you don't wanna hear.
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@Humanity Galatica Yikes saying the woman being forced to give birth is her "duty" what century did you step out of?
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@Humanity Galatica ...what? Nobody stated what time it is. I asked you what century you stepped out, metaphorical question people ask for those with extremely outdated views. You're basically saying women are nothing more than incubators who should be mothers and nothing more.
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@ILovePink-x1v Everything that they don't agree with or understand is "irrelevant" to them 😂
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That is absolutely not true whatsoever hahaha what are you talking about? First of all, married women get abortions ALL THE TIME. and what does sex until marriage have to do with anything? Just because you're married doesn't mean you want kids or should lose your rights to your body to make that choice.
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@summertimetea4594 murder is unlawful killing, if they want it legal it's not murder lmao
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@Humanity Galatica Then you don't get it.
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...Where is anyone here hugging a "serial killer?"
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...what
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@kingorange7739 pretty self explanatory. 😂
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How many accounts do you have??? Sheesh somebody doesn't have much going on in their life
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What about the women?
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I'm sorry, but what?! How were you "tricked" into having 2 children?
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@Humanity Galatica blah blah blah keep rambling
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As pro-choice, I think yes, everyone should have a say in whether or not they get vaccinated. Thankfully nobody is being forced to get vaccinated, though.
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So now you can't have sex unless you're financially stable? LMAOOO yall
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...what? When did they say they can never get pregnant? Or is that just a childish judgemental comment on yout behalf? Judging by your user, I'm assuming so. There seems to be no sense of logic or common sense with you. Poor little kid.
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Wtf are you talking about "plugged into me" since when can you plug into people? 😂😭
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones I mean... men can paint their nails? What's holding them back? You clearly have a lot of personal issues and mental problems if you have a problem with that. Makes sense.
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If it were your stare? What?
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LOL. yeah?? sex is apart of everyone's lives at some point and should be enjoyed by all who chooses, not just women that want kids.
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I don't know if you're aware of this, but you aren't all that either. Humble yourself bro 😂
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You're kinda pro-choice then. Pro-choice doesn't necessarily mean you'd ever get an abortion, but you don't want to make that decision for someone else.
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Nah
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones says the one who cries about men painting their nails 🤣🤣
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x so a woman only has freedom over her body if a male has violated it first? Nice
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@orangeorangeorange5075 are you having a stroke?
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@orangeorangeorange5075 what does this have to do with masks
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*forced birth. Pro-life isn't for life, clearly.
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It's time to take your daily meds.
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Why are you that judgemental over how someone looks? They look lovely, what on earth are you talking about? Sounds like you're just projecting childish banter because tou disagree with them.
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Children and incels don't get a say, in fact nothing you say in of any importance.
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Are you really comparing sex, something that is natural and beautiful that everybody partakes in, to driving drunk? There's absolutely no logical reasoning for drunk driving. I think you need to rethink your comment. Should sex be illegal then, since it's the "drunk driving" in your scenario and could lead to lives being lost? Lol.
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Sorry you've been brainwashed otherwise now.
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Me too. Since when can we decide what other's do with their bodies and health? Sad.
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@nickstojic6995 since 1973, nick. Lol but in reality it's always been a common thing. Also, probably has to do with, as I just stated... having freedom of one's of body autonomy. Keep up.
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That's not very "pro-life" of you...
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@macadamianutties I don't have insurance. An IUD ranges between $500-$1,300 depending on where you live and get it from.
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@whistle8388 abortion bans don't stop abortions lol so no. Also what about other lives outside of embryos/fetuses?
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Why does everyone deserve a chance to live? We can't even help the ones that are already born and suffering.
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@jamessmith4287 take your meds
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@cancelingxmasonyourass Honey... the entire world isn't having sex for reproduction, they're having sex because it brings pleasure and connection. We all know it's a possibility, and until they made contraceptives 100% affective and available/free to EVERYONE, then abortion should always be an option to ensure freedom over our own bodies. Women who don't want kids shouldn't be punished for being sexually active.
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No, obviously it isn't literally HER body, but its her body that is the host of the pregnancy and being affected as well.
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Nobody "chose" to get pregnant... what are you talking about? that's the whole point. Im not sure you know what a "choice" is. After sex I just don't get to tell my body "okay, get pregnant now." And that's nice, others however can feel sympathy for others. And yes, again, abortion is a choice and should be.
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@redredred8408 yes male fragility is
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x well as you said earlier, contraceptives aren't available and affordable to everyone to makes sense.
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@mynameudste ...When did I say we don't have access to contraceptives? I said not everyone can afford or attain them, which is different. I am one of those people that can't afford my own contraceptives, yet here you are calling it "propaganda" and putting words into my mouth. What media tells people that we dont have access to contraceptives? Literally everybody knows we do... you're just speaking nonsense. It's better to think before you speak, saves you the embarrassment.
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@Logosfollower LMFAOOOO WHAT. THATS PROBABLY BECAUSE THATS NOT HOW ABORTIONS ARE PERFORMED YOU WEIRDO. 😭🤣 I can't tell if this is a joke or if you're just trolling or what. Or are you actually this misinformed? Yikes. It is the woman's choice. No amount of your crying will change that.
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@Humanity Galatica You make absolutely no sense. You're evil for not caring about animals and people. That shows you have no morals whatsoever.
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@orangeorangeorange5075 I think you mean "abortion" not uh-bortion. And no, it's not murder because it's legal and it's not a baby. Maybe you should learn words before you use them in a sentence.
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I can't imagine being proud of such a place with such disgusting messages lol who cares if people have sex before marriage or make decisions for their own body? Where ARE you from so I can stay away.
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@Humanity Galatica You sound like you have a lot of personal issues.
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@that_single_mama exactly, can't be with any woman that thinks they shouldn't have rights over their own body. That's gross.
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Nobody is a "pro-death abortionist" lmaooo. And most of the pro-choice argument stems from the idea that one should have freedom over their own bodies and health. Considering you're using the bible as a response, I don't think you really have much to go off on.
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@Humanity Galatica Pro-choice is not the same thing as an "abortionists." Your comments keep proving your ignorance and it's hilarious. Not you trying to change the definition of "human" too 💀💀
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So what do you advocate for and propose that would help, save and care for lives? Baby killers? Who's a baby killer? I'm confused.
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@Euro.Patriot no he doesn't. Why do you think that?
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Are you having a stroke? Alove? Libterds? What a mess. Also since when is respecting grave sites a "liberal" thing?! And how is that even similar to this?
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Lmaooo my jaw dropped. She tried
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones I just KNEEWW you were the same id*ot that has the "plugged into me" analogy. I knew it. There can't be this many dense folks on the same comment thread.
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Ironic considering murder is "unlawful killing" and abortion where I'm from is legal, therefore it's not murder. And an embryo/fetus isn't a baby... So those aren't facts at all, quite the opposite. The real "facts don't care about your feelings" stems from the fact that abortion is body autonomy and one's freedom to their own body, and will happen regardless of laws.
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Nobody's asking you to.
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@tealtealteal7778 they're asking you to give freedom to women.
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So you don't agree women like you should have choices over their body and health? That's incredibly sad
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones maybe you should make a better analogy then something as st*pid as "what if this person was "plugged into" my body" lmaooo, maybe one that makes sense and is logical in this argument? I'll go along with your silly words. Is that person that is "plugged into" me inside my body, affecting my health? Then absolutely I can "unplug" (lmfao) them because it's my body. Thanks for your time.
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones Now let's address your deeper personal issues on having a problem with what men do with their nails? That clearly is a problem here.
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@kingorange7739 like? Because making it illegal has never stopped abortions, and there's nothing else we've done to help stop them otherwise, so I'm curious to hear what that is you think works when that's all we've ever seen.
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@kingorange7739 So once again, I'm asking you what are the "different approaches" you speak of and where is the evidence that making abortions illegal stops abortions? Because we all know it doesn't, it only makes people suffer more and encourage unsafe abortions being performed. What this person is saying makes sense, the people who ban abortion know it doesn't stop them (I'd hope, at least) they just want to criminalize it. Like you just said, criminalizing something doesn't prevent it from happening. You're kinda proving the OP's exact point. Making something illegal isn't solving the problem. So why don't they actually DO something that does?
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Abortion bans don't actually stop abortions, you fool.
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@blackblackblack7773 life begins at conception, why?
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@mike_404 ?
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"I don't care about any woman that has sex. Sex bad"
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@orangeorangeorange5075 makes sense the one who can't spell makes an comment lol
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones you keep using the term "murder" incorrectly despite many accounts of correcting you
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@nickstojic6995 Not a spelling mistake, a typing mistake. Lol. Also he doesn't seem to understand how laws work either.
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The truth to what? It's full of hypocrisy, flaws, issues..
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@Humanity Galatica Yes you are. You believe in religion and tyranny over women's body and lives. Sicko.
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@kingorange7739 irresponsibility? Having sex is not "irresponsible" lol.
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@HisMinistry1 So if the baby chose death would it be okay? What about their choice!!1!!1!
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What does that have to do with men and a body that doesn't involve them
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@crabsaresilly8317 I'm sorry, last time I checked a pregnancy falls down to the man's actions, not the woman's.
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@yellowyellowyellow7894 go take your meds
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@albinsiby7 Yeah, you're definitely weird.
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@sprout_waxstudio8444 Possible consequences is not the same as making a choice whatsoever. If I get hit while driving, did I CHOOSE to get hit, or was that just a consequence that happened because I got in my car? Nobody has the option to CHOOSE to get pregnant, otherwise abortions wouldn't be a thing and women who want kids wouldn't have trouble conceiving. Lol. Also, protection fails yaknow. Sooo. Either way, it's still not "choosing." 😅
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@sprout_waxstudio8444 Yes, a risk not a choice. I mean, how do we know why sex was made? 🤣 If sex was just for procreation it wouldn't be pleasurable. Pregnancy is a risk with sex but the huge majority of people do not have sex to procreate. If you get into your car to drive, you shouldn't be surprised when you get into an accident. Sex, not pregnancy, is the choice here yes (most of the time, disregarding SA obviously).
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@sprout_waxstudio8444 the sole purpose of sex isn't procreation, otherwise it wouldn't be pleasurable. Stop scaring people with sex, it is not a punishable offense. "I couldn't less if someone doesn't wanna be a parent." Yikes. Well we couldn't care less about your opinion.
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Protection fails and people are allowed to do whatever they want with their body.
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@tealtealteal7778 why?
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@justapotato2434 It's both, depending on what the woman wants. If a woman doesn't want children and to risk her body and health, it's a punishment.
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@gasoline5071 actually if you're pro-choice you want abortion to be legal, and abortion is only "murder" if it's illegal, so no...They're not. Nice try though. Work on your education.
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@turquoiseturquoiseturquois1174 the fact that you commented twice from 2 diff accounts LMFAOOOO
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I think they're beautiful :)
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@BenjaJohnsonIII *you're Sorry, I don't take baseless opinions from little children who can't even spell basic words.
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@Humanity Galatica seek help, sick freakkk.
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They do that where abortion is outlawed. Sad
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That's quite the extreme reach and projection there, buddy. Care to elaborate?
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@mrnorthz9373 Yikes. Where to begin with your comment. 1, do you tell that to r*pe victims? "Don't spread your legs so much?" 2, "spread your legs so much" aka just have sex...even once? Everybody has sex, buddy, just because you're not getting some doesn't make everyone else the enemy. 3) don't you mean "keep it in your pants"? Since it's the man's action that lead to the unwanted pregnancy...?
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What does this have to do with Margaret sanger?
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No they could not.
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People argue differently, even biologists, due to people having different definitions of life. Regardless, it is irrelevant to the argument.
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@kaktus3856 incorrect.
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@hakapelika7024 LOL WHAT
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@BenjaJohnsonIII It's a separate start of a being that's inside of, affecting and living off the woman's body. Therefore it's her body before anyone else's.
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@BenjaJohnsonIII I'm gonna need you to re-read my comment until it sinks in.
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ICTOAN not babies
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ICTOAN an embryo/fetus is not a baby by definition.
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@BenjaJohnsonIII People have sex for pleasure intimacy, connection. You'll learn that one day. I and millions of others can have sex if we so choose to 😂 Just because we don't WANT kids doesn't mean we aren't free to have sex. Sorry to inform you. And what about r*pe victims? Should they have been more responsible? Yikes.
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@Mich-jk2ze ...what?
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@lawsssssss A baby is a newly born infant, an embryo/fetus is not a "baby." And I just told you why, because body autonomy. We have freedom over our bodies, health and what's affecting them. Why should this be any different? You are saying it right now. A "baby" is a consequence by your logic (yikes, really humanizing those fetuses aye?) And it's a consequence of a woman having sex. You want women who have sex to have consequences, therefore. Nice.
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@macadamianutties I don't have that kind of money.
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@Humanity Galatica You just dismantled your whole point... religion should have no say in any law or anyone's body. Bye
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@Neptune523 why do you want a (soon to be) baby to live? You wanna care for them all when they're born? How sweet of you 🥰🥰
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@Neptune523 Great! There's about hundreds of thousands of kids without a home or family so you better get started immediately! Idk how you're gonna care for all 1 million of them but you go girl! 🤣 I'm not sure what you're waiting for?
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@Neptune523 I'm not the one who's forcing these children to be born and put into bad situations just because you wanted women's bodies to be controlled and them to be born for no reason other than your own self satisfaction, duurrrr. That's your fault, so you should be the one to take care of them. Like I said...not sure what you're waiting for??? What's your excuse?
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@kingorange7739 I completely agree. Those are just a few of the dozens of things that can be done that can actually help prevent the need for abortions... so why don't we do that? Why just criminalize abortion, allow them to still happen, and move on? That makes no sense. Those things you listed are ideas, they're not actually in place. How do we know it prevents it? And why is the only solution to try to make these women suffer by restricting them in the first place? Also, abortion is incredibly different from r*pe and theft... obviously. It's a medical procedure that involves one's body autonomy and rights to such, making people go through that is causing harm and suffering in itself. If ANY of these legislators actually cared about lives and preventing abortions they would provide actual solutions to do such. The fact that none of them really do proves they don't care. It seems like just a ploy to punish sexually active women... even r*pe victims in some cases, sadly. Regardless, r*pe and theft clearly have nothing to do with ones own personal body autonomy/body/health/life. Nobody should be making those decisions for anyone.
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Yikes. That's awful. Why? It doesn't stop abortions and just causes more problems.
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@Logosfollower So if it's human lives you care about, then you should be pro-choice considering how many lives are affected due to abortion bans. Do you not care about other living things other than fetuses/embryos?
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...what?
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@crossfit223 Death you don't suffer. Suffering through life makes people wish they were dead and you actually experience it. Daily.
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@jamessmith4287 no it doesn't. It depends on what your definition of "life" is.
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@kingorange7739 Yes it is. We're not talking about living/non-living. We're talking about when life begins or what life actually means.
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@kingorange7739 Actually no, "science" and scientists alike all have disagreements on when life begins or what it actually is. Considering SCIENCE says that everything made up of cells is living, then that would go against your definition of when life begins. No? Many argue fertilization. Many argue implantation. Many argue conception. Many argue not until the fetus is viable. Many argue when a heartbeat is present. Many argue life is just a continuum. It goes on and on.
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What life? Where? How?
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@mike_404 who's?
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@mike_404 when will the babies life succeed?
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@mike_404 ?
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@mike_404 I'll wait I guess ?
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@mike_404 Wait for you to actually respond to my comments with something relevant, actually.
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@mike_404 Same to me what? I keep commenting questions and you're avoiding them? Lol.
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@mike_404 I need help because you refuse to answer basic questions? 😂 Still waiting by the way. Thanks for reminding me!
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@mike_404 When will the babies life succeed?
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@leonardodtc1493 So does the zygote suddenly matter more that the developed, feeling woman it is living inside of? I'm confused.
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Leftists? You mean liberals? Well, hippies tended to have the most open and liberal mindset with humanity. Makes sense.
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@gasoline5071 yeah, because it IS homicide genius. However a mother making the decision for herself it isn't. You are dense.
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@gasoline5071 and once again, abortion is legal so it's not murder 😂
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@jamessmith4287 how old are you?
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@jamessmith4287 because you type like a 7 year old
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@LavaCreeperPeople what do you mean how? Denying women rights and restricting abortion is very anti-life.
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@LavaCreeperPeople yes it is
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A embryo literally is just a clump of cells though... born and developed humans are not.
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It wouldn't matter what I wish because that's not my choice to begin with. And pro-choice doesn't mean they advocate for abortions for everyone. That's what they mean by pro-CHOICE, you get to make the decision. They chose to have their kid and they want others to have the ability to make that decision or not.
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@blackblackblack7773 none of that made any sense, as usual.
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@Humanity Galatica Why? Because you're putting certain lives over others? HMMMM. Why do you not care for all live? Why do you just care about fetuses?
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I don't like lgbtq wonder why, your username is literally "I don't like lgbtq"
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I don't like lgbtq "most people" who is most? Where did you get this data from? What 3rd world shithole country are you from where you actually believe most people don't like it?
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@kingorange7739 So do the other 58% deserve the choice for abortion then since they were "responsible"? Just wondering. The consequences? Getting an abortion is a consequence. Sounds like they're dealing with it just fine.
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@mrnorthz9373 abortion is the consequence. Lol
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@kingorange7739 Dodge the consequence? Abortion doesn't prevent pregnancy, it just ends it. You can't be "dodging something" that has already happened. Abortion is a consequential choice to an unwanted pregnancy. :) A death sentence? That's not a death sentence. Lol. And mistakes of the parents? Is having sex suddenly a mistake? Is getting r*ped?
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Underage? Which is? What about the fact that abortion bans do not actually stop abortions and only causes for problems and endangers more lives?
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@antoniusevan3722 I never said anything about medical situations. I'm talking about SA victims suffering, often from from mental illness or offing themselves, more dumpster babies, higher child abuse and neglect rates, higher birth mortality rates, poverty..
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@antoniusevan3722 Adoption is an alternative to not wanting motherhood, not not wanting pregnancy. If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant she shouldn't be forced to. And I agree, so if people were pro-life they would put their fight for those things instead of the dead end fight of trying to ban abortion.
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@mrnorthz9373 that statement made absolutely no sense. Lol.
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Is the child affecting my body and health? A danger? Then yes, it is.
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@mike_404 why? You have yet to explain
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@mike_404 why do you put some lives over others? Isn't that exactly what abortion is? So what's the difference to you?
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@sawderf741 Yes, I can choose to have sex. I can also choose to make decisions for my body and health, such as abortion. It's called body autonomy and that is responsible in itself. That makes no sense, sex is pleasurable because it's for reproduction? Then why is it pleasurable? If it's purpose was procreation then that wouldn't need to be apart of it, and what about people that can't procreate? They just shouldn't have sex because they lack the purpose of it?
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@sprout_waxstudio8444 Just because we don't care or your opinion doesn't make a difference doesn't mean I can't respond accordingly. 🙂
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@Humanity Galatica so you're putting certain lives over others? Kinda like abortion?
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@Humanity Galatica That's exactly what people who support abortion are doing. They're putting actual already born lives above fetuses/embryos. Why do you get to do it but they can't? Hypocrite.
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What us uh-bortion
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Just because you aren't getting laid doesn't mean we all have to suffer. Everybody has sex, and sex has other purposes then procreation. You'll learn that someday.
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Based on your photo, I'm sure that's incredibly easy for you to say. However, the rest of the world is having sex... you'll get there one day buddy. May I suggest not telling women that them having sex should be a punishable offense? Might actually get you laid.
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@justapotato2434 Of course nobody is saying that. It's a natural possible consequence? Whether you chose to partake or not. The punishment is restricting women's options.
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@justapotato2434 Of course not. It's a natural possible consequence. The punishment part is restricting women's choices for such for themselves.
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Contraception prevents pregnancy. You can't use abortion as a contraceptive if you're already pregnant... that makes no sense. Also the girl explained why she had 2. Contraception also fails Diane
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It's time to take your meds.
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@BenjaJohnsonIII I'm not mad? I'm embarrassed for you. It's very different. You are obviously a child that thinks their immature opinion actually matters or is fact. You got so triggered by me making a nice comment that you had to make a fight about it.... truly, truly embarrassed for you.
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@crabsaresilly8317 I do not, no.
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@tealtealteal7778 ? I should what?
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@sawderf741 anti-choicers choose not to acknowledge reality.
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@girlfromipanema3231 "an inconvenience" honey I don't think you even know what pregnancy and labor is with that comment 💀 and what about the woman's life? Why are you disregarding or not showing signs of caring about her life?
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I don't like lgbtq yes, and abortion is the consequence. Dur.
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@sawderf741 if you don't wanna get into a car accident, then don't drive. You know the consequences. Everybody has sex and should be allowed to. Also, abortion is MUCH safer and definitely less stressful physically and mentally (if you made that choice and are sure of it)
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@mariussielcken and there's thousands of kids in foster care that will never get adopted. Look at that.
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Somebody didn't take basic sex ed
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Also what does any of that have to do with having sex lol
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@cherie5487 I wasn't responding to you, I was replying to OP. I agree with you!
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@BaronBoar great in theory, not in reality. Abortion is a responsible choice as well.
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That doesn't change the fact that those women still don't want kids, it doesn't matter who the father is or if they're happily in love. Also, no, abortions have existed even back in the ancient times and happen regardless of laws.
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@ALevelBusinessStudies So...they r*ped you?
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@ALevelBusinessStudies ????
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x someone didn't take sex ed. Contraceptives fail. Stop complaining
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x but contraceptives failing is a big reason why so many abortions happen, so what's your point in saying "practice safe sex and stop complaining" then? And yes no contraceptives is also a large part of it, so do you agree contraceptives should be free and accessible to EVERYONE then? All sorts of contraception?
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x well at least you agree with that. I wish that were the case, then these situations would be minimal compared to now.
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Incels BTFO
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Why would I adopt if I can't take care of it? 😄
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@jamessmith4287 please go take your meds
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I don't like lgbtq yeah, thanks genius, I was pointing out that his comment made no sense.
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Yup, that's why we have abortions.
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Pro-deathers? 😂 who is pro-death here? I think you're confused. And giving people the freedom of choice and body autonomy isn't imposing your morals on anyone. Yup, you're definitely confused.
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Not sure what slavery has to do with this topic. I mean, I guess it is comparable since one is advocating for freedom, and the other is advocating against such...
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I don't like lgbtq yes, and abortion is the consequence. Duurrr.
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It's time to take your meds.
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@BenjaJohnsonIII Since you clearly didn't comprehend my comment the 2nd time around, I clearly stated that is it a separate being. So yes, that means separate body parts and DNA. It's still inside her body... LOL WAIT WHAT? HATE ALL BLACK PEOPLE? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LMAOOOOO HAHAHAHA. YOU'RE TROLLING RIGHT? If this is how you have conversations in real life, you must be a trip. Holy hell.
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@BenjaJohnsonIII It is not the woman's body being aborted, obviously, but it is the woman's body/health being affected and where that fetus/embryo lies... now that we've covered the absolute basics, are you ready to stop pretending like pregnancy doesn't involve the woman's body whatsoever? Because that's what it is. Pregnancy is completely revolved around the woman's body. Are we not gonna address your weird, irrelevant and unsettling freakout a moment ago? Where you said if I don't answer I hate black people? what was THAT about? Or are you just gonna ignore it like how you ignore that pregnancy involves the woman's body first and foremost?
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@yellowyellowyellow7894 you're the same person that has a dozen accounts, embarrassing
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@nickstojic6995 I'm confused, how is it not my body? Do you know what pregnancy is?
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@nickstojic6995 "inside of the pregnant woman" annnnd bingo. You're almost there. So it is the woman's body involved and as a foundation for that other life. Therefore the woman's body. That's what pregnancy is revolved around.
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@nickstojic6995 You say there's "other considerations" but still denying those freedoms and "considerations" to the woman's body first and foremost.
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@nickstojic6995 Being allowed to make decisions for one own's body and health is in fact freedom, Nick. That seems pretty f*cking obvious.
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@maroonmaroonmaroon2985 how many accounts do you have, a dozen? More?
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@blackblackblack7773 truth to..what?
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...why?
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@roboguy75 do you think women do not know what pregnancy is? Also this is already a law in about a dozen states. Lmao.
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@gasoline5071 when did they say they support murder? They want abortion to be legal, which means it's not murder. If anything forced birthers are supporting murder lol
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@tealtealteal7778 okay? LOL
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@Humanity Galatica Sure, but not a baby. Thanks for your time.
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@Humanity Galatica You don't comprehend things very well eh. You also can't change the definitions of words so stop trying.
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@theintrosproject8598 Gotcha. That wasn't implied in your original. Lol.
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No thanks Kathy
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@freedommatters7677 it really isn't lol
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You mean FOR allowing abortions? You're either for choices for your body and health or you're not.
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@lawsssssss uhmm because it tells women they have a choice what to do with their own health/life/body unlike forced birthers. That is not selfish whatsoever, selfish is thinking you can make a decision like that for someone else. "Consequences of your actions" so now sexually active women should be punished?
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@lawsssssss there's no such thing as a logical pro-life person. Even when I was young and naive, aka forced birth, I understood that abortion was always going to happen and bans just make things so much worse. Pro-life people not only ignore this reality, but they ignore the fact that their laws only harm people more why not actually stopping abortion. Even if you're against it, going against an abortion ban is hypocritical, ironic and the opposite of what yall claim you care about...lives.
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@lawsssssss ...okay?? So unwanted babies are now less than wanted babies to you?? LOL might wanna think about words before you say them.
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@lawsssssss I'm not even arguing when human life begins lol. I'm saying people should have freedoms to their own body and health. Meanwhile you dont. That's it.
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@lawsssssss and? It's still their choice. Lol, my morals tell me that telling others what to do with their bodies is barbaric, that should apply to everyone. Weird flex and morals for you to be proud of forcing others what to do with their bodies and health. You're also leaving out victims of SA so that's nice.
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@lawsssssss also, you realize any women could die at any time during labor right? They don't always know beforehand. Sadly a reality we have to face. That means you're asking women to put their lives on the line for something they don't even want because you want to force birth with them all.
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@UClygSE4zMzMRxy7SqTol_tw I'm talking about abortion bans. considering they not only do not stop abortions, they just make them more dangerous and shady, but they also create more dumpster babies, child abuse and neglect, mental health and suicide issues, poverty...
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@lawsssssss if that's the woman's choice, then yes :-) now we're on the same page! Lol.
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@lawsssssss I realize that? Lol but you asked should we just abort every fetus, to which I said yes if it's the woman's choice, yes that's my logic and the whole logic around "pro-choice" is giving women choices. Why are you asking if I'm high? The fetus doesn't have the same rights, no. It's not even legally a person yet 😂
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@kingorange7739 I mean, they aren't completely lying. Lots of conservatives would be fine with lgbt folks not living.
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@kingorange7739 Also, you claimed they lied on both sides, meaning the first sentence about pro-birthers not caring about the mothers life? Or? Because that is also true in majority of cases.
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@user-sh2rc5kc7x protection fails... you know this right? And also it isn't readily available and affordable for everyone.
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@teletubbymeme8171 nope
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@sawderf741 that makes no sense. Why only if she was forced?
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@yellowyellowyellow7894 what's your opinion on someone making 32 YouTube accounts and constantly comment nonsense every second they have?
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What is insane here? Do tell.
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"Excuses"?
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@jamessmith4287 what?
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@goldenrule8706 New account huh? The first 783 weren't enough?
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones how do you know it reduces them? and why should it happen? and what about the lives affected when bans are in place? The women, the children after they're born...what about them? And what laws do you want in place to ensure they are set? Free healthcare, funding for foster care to extend it's locations and resources (since you want foster care to overflow even further) funding for children who will grow out of the system, mental health funding, ect...?
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@Neptune523 it's not murder, it's legal and legal in many parts of the world. Murder means unlawful killing, so therefore calling it murder would be incorrect and a lie. Novody cares what "you want" it's about body autonomy and what's right for others. Of course you're a minor. Hopefully when you grow up you'll understand more.
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@ishaman7397 "she has the right to not have sex" yes, they do, that doesn't mean they should be forced to AVOID sex simply because you think she should be punished by a possible outcome.
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@ishaman7397 that's nice, telling women what to do with their bodies twice now. Cute.
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@ishaman7397 I mean yeah, that's why people have sex. Lol.
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@lavenderlavenderlavender5680 dude, go take your meds. What the actual f.
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No
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@sawderf741 ...okay? Thanks?
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@sawderf741 Probably not. And any abortion you don't stop is just making someone else suffer. Not that you care about the already living...
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The truth to what?
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones murder is unlawful killing. Pro-choice wants abortion legal, therefore they don't want murder? Murder is what will happen if forced birthers implement abortion bans, because then it's illegal.
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@tacoexpressSEEDEEholeeveryones LMAO how? I'm literally giving you the definition of the word you're using incorrectly, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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@DrGingerHamster why are there so many people like yall uneducated about the world we live in? There's plenty of women in other countries oppressed. It's kinda embarassing you guys don't know this.
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@DrGingerHamster OP didn't mention anything about the west specifically. She just said there is "zero areas" implying in general, which was odd hence my comment.
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@DrGingerHamster ...What? I'm very aware of my comment, lying about what? Lol again, I referred back to the OP comment that never specified "the west" they implied in general this doesn't exist. You even said in your comment it obviously does exist in other places (which you didnt imply in your original comment), so I am no longer talking to you since you're agreeing with me, so... what's the problem here?
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@chelseapoet3664 What about abusive relationships? SA victims? And she was clearly referring to natives. What about them?
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@DrGingerHamster Who said anything about "the patriarchy" when referencing victims?
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@chelseapoet3664 When did she say anything about the west specifically?
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