Comments by "Cinderball" (@cinderball1135) on "Could this be the end of Trumpism? - David Miliband" video.

  1. So did the Democrats. By a larger amount.
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  2.  @WonkyTaco  When both parties increase their share of the vote, stuff like that's gonna happen. That's how it goes in a First Past the Post system.
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  3.  @owen5847  I never alleged it was, genius. We're talking about a hyperpartisan American political system, where both sides are highly enthused.
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  4. To be fair to Blair, he didn't just win one election and then get trounced at the next opportunity. Just saying.
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  5.  @owen5847  Uhuh. I've heard bogus arguments like this levelled against Proportional Representation. They come from people who sound exactly like you - wanting to bulldoze their personal agenda onto a population that isn't ready for it, or doesn't want it. That hardly seems like a democratic or an agreeable mindset to have. In a democracy, you should want and need the consent of the governed. It cuts both ways - if Republicans want to keep their right to bear arms, they should understand why Democrats want to keep their right to free and safe reproductive healthcare and abortions.
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  6.  @qwertyfiable5069  Indeed! And I wasn't trying to snap back at you with a gotcha. I happen not to be a Blairite myself, but I like to just keep my facts squared nicely. :) I think that for Trumpism to go away, Democrats need to do a good job of treating the underlying causes, rather than punishing those who voted against them. Trumpism is a reaction to genuine problems - it certainly offers no solutions - but unless you resolve the drastic economic inequalities, lack of education and opportunities for lower-class working (and unemployed) rural Americans, Trumpism is likely to re-emerge at some later date.
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  7.  Albert Pike  Whereas you are just a run-of-the-mill Kremlinbot tasked with disseminating disinformation on the internet.
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  8.  @owen5847  But I want to take a second to mention our point of agreement - America is mired by grotesque inequality and a failure to bridge growing cultural differences. If the Dems want to maintain their energy and win another election in the future, they'd better get right to work mending the erosion of American unity that has accrued over the past twenty-odd years.
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  9.  @owen5847  It's not Democrats that are shutting down those jobs and manufacturing industries - that's the economy. Some jobs, like coal, just aren't viable any more. The market has spoken. What Progressives want is to create new industries in the same areas that will help people land on their feet. How is that anti-worker?
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  10.  @onlygazza  Uhuh. So did Biden, by a larger amount.
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  11.  @onlygazza  Eh, I think that's what you're trying to force into the conversation, but it's a pretty weak attempt. By your logic, Abe Lincoln was a terrible president because he got millions fewer votes than any 21st century candidate ever.
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  12.  @onlygazza  You're delusional.
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  13.  @onlygazza  Are you a bot? Say potato.
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  14. We're all jealous of Trump, mhm. He's the bigliest loser that I've ever seen - you might even say the best loser. People are saying that there's never been a loser quite as big as Trump. So often people say to me, "sir, I'm jealous of Trump." I dunno, maybe you've heard different from me, but I hear he's a pretty big loser.
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  15.  @RustyCohle  I don't think you know what an ad-hominem is.
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  16.  @OJ1992  Blairism ended with David Cameron and his politics of extreme austerity.
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  17.  @onlygazza  Please find something more productive to do with your time. You're not even a quarter as clever as you think you are.
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  18. I think anybody expecting Republicans to dump Trumpism is sadly going to be disappointed. 2016 was clearly no aberration. Republicans have learned they can lie, cheat, steal, commit fraud, threaten democracy itself, and face no serious consequences. They have an ultra-loyal hardcore base that will excuse any and all behaviour so long as they "own the libs", so I see no pragmatic reason why they'd ever give that up. Why play normal politics when you can harness a literal cult of personality to drive you most of the way to the finishing line? And besides, if the Republicans turn their back on Trumpism now, they'd have to rebuild their base from scratch. They've depended (tacitly) on the vote of white supremacists for years. If they go after Trump, they'll lose those voters, and they'd have to stitch together an entirely new constituency - and they'd now have to poach Democrats' supporters to build it. That's a tall order for a party that was only recently in power, and I'm willing to bet they'll give Trumpism at least one more spin. And finally, from the perspective of Republican politicians, opposition is good for business. They're getting fat stacks of lobbyist money either way, and if they're OUT of power, they can campaign to their millionaire friends that much more persuasively. Whereas when they actually hold power, it's more difficult to secure those kind of donations. See, when you're in opposition, you can promise the earth and never have to worry about the means of delivery - with no danger of ever disappointing your donors. So in a sense, it suits them just fine to be locked into opposition. So yeah, no. Trumpism is here to stay for the foreseeable future. At least for the next 4 years. I'm sure they'll find plenty of mileage in whining that Biden "stole" the election.
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