Comments by "Cinderball" (@cinderball1135) on "MPs to vote again on Brexit options" video.

Can we have a referendum on No Deal versus Remain In, with an extra opt-in option at the bottom to put Theresa May in the stocks and pelt her with tomatoes? =^-^=
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Referendums are not the same as votes in a general election. This is a widespread myth that the Brexiters have given more than enough oxygen to, but it needs to stop. Referenda are actually the least democratic way to vote. Don't believe me? See how the mathematics shake out: In a two-option, winner-takes-all referendum, only the first 50.001% of votes count. Provided they get one more vote than the other side, they win. Every vote cast after that point - whether it is cast for the winner or not - might as well be thrown in a big shredder. In a referendum where a million people vote, 499,999 are guaranteed not to be represented in any way whatsoever. This is what is called a "Democratic Deficit" - it's a number of people who actively participated in the system, in good faith, and got diddly squat for their trouble. See, Democracy is supposed to be government by the people, with the people, for the people - not just some of the people. In a representative and proportionally-represented Democracy, almost every single vote will count towards a seat, meaning that every person does have somebody to speak for them. Even first past the post is generally a better representation of the population than a referendum.
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Well this is rather the conundrum isn't it? 55% of the country would now vote to remain - 45% would still vote to leave. Let's not get into that though. Let's focus on the Leavers. About a third of those leavers (let's generously say 20% of the population) wants to leave with no deal - crash out. Anything less will be a betrayal in their eyes. Another third of leavers (let's again be generous, and say 20%) want to leave with a preferential trade agreement but no freedom of movement. The EU won't agree to this. The final third (let's give them the change and say 5%) want to leave with a Customs Union. They want the softest of softie plus cotton+ baby-powder Brexits. They are buoyed somewhat by Remainers who are prepared to consider this as the "least bad" alternative to staying in. How are you going to make those numbers stack up to 50%+? There is no way - no compromise to be forged that will be agreeable to the EU and also to the entire UK. We're going to have to throw one or two groups under the bus. For my money, let it be Brexit. After all, the Leave campaign openly cheated, they deployed bucketloads of lies, the economy is tanking, businesses are screaming to high heaven, international economists are pressing the red-alert button, and the majority of the surveyed population now opposes Brexit. Why are we continuing with this travesty? The least they could do is just to cancel, and then continue the conversation without the pressure of a ticking clock.
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When did David Cameron say that, exactly? And who put him in charge of the process? First thing he did was slope off to play playboy millionaire right after the referendum - what possible relevance does he have to today's conversation? @boptah7489 And no, WTO rules are NOT a valid option. They are simply a framework on which our future agreements could be negotiated. They are not a backstop set of arrangements that are up and ready so we can hit the ground running on Day #1 of Brexit. For serious, where is all this misinformation coming from?
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@RstesotTv I couldn't begin to fathom how badly your comment was written, or what any of it meant - then you went full on religious fundamentalist and it all started to become clear to me...
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Where your freedom starts, my freedom ends. @RstesotTv Freedom is not an absolute, but a relative. If you have the right to park your car in front of my house, I don't have the right to use that spot whenever I want it, unimpeded. The way you're using these words strips them of all meaning. They're only "deep and meaningful" if you're illiterate. The "UK" didn't vote for "Freedom" - 51% of voters (so about 19% of the total UK population) selected the "Leave the EU" option on a ballot sheet. That's it. Freedom wasn't on the ballot.
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@wildcat1065 The polls that predicted a Remain victory were very nearly right at the time, and have reported a widening margin in favour of remaining in the time since. Don't underestimate how close the vote was, last time around.
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I am the original commenter, and for every person like you, @Pining_for_the_fjords , there is a Hard-Brexiter who will take nothing less than a full withdrawal as being legitimate. Who says your version of Brexit is the one true way?
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So you were voting for abject chaos? @teresawatts4181 
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@mrparts It's like these goons are going around digging up corpses of defunct politicians, turning them into macabre ragdolls and going on a road trip as the world's least convincing ventriloquist's show.
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Bring it on! I hope to see Brexit finally and thoroughly squashed. @mrparts I fear they won't allow it to come to that though - they know that putting it to another vote would be tantamount to revoking Article 50 on the spot, and many of these people have been angling for this very moment for decades
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@boptah7489 I don't think that quote means what you claim it means. Insult me all you want, but I'm fairly comfortable in my understanding of this Brexit nonsense, and have so far been vindicated in all of my predictions about it.
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