Comments by "Дмитрий Трудов" (@user-xg6yq8rh6n) on "DW News"
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@wai828 ==Your point being?
A lot of European countries were actually pretty friendly to Russia prior to February 2022. Germany, for example, was energy dependent to the Kremlin. ==
that's not what I think. that's what Nulland thinks. what she said in her famous conversation with Maidan, sending the EU away... and appointing Yatsenyuk, and not Klitschko, who had lived in Germany for many years, as prime minister of the new fascist Ukraine.
yes, the USA easily stole the Maidan organized by its European puppets.
to organize a coup in Ukraine, in which Russia has invested billions to make it an offshore hole for its goods... it's "friendly"
==Putin, however, destroyed this relationship the moment he chose to invade Ukraine.==
you have destroyed these relations by consistently organizing coups around Russia.
by organizing a state fascist coup in Ukraine
by lying about guarantees to Yanukovych
by lying about guarantees in the Minsk agreements
==Putin, however, destroyed this relationship the moment he chose to invade Ukraine.==
you have destroyed these relations by consistently organizing coups around Russia.
by organizing a state fascist coup in Ukraine
by lying about guarantees to Yanukovych
by lying about guarantees in the Minsk agreements
==As with most recent issues Russia is facing, the Kremlin is to blame.==
I agree.
such an ingratiating desire with those who only want to rob and kill you is the Kremlin's fault
== Perhaps Russia should one day really strive to become a neighbor with whom you want to interact, and not look for a way to protect yourself from it.==
putin has offered it to you many times
but you have rejected it and are rejecting
it. you need something else.=
no "was energy dependent to the Kremlin"
to receive for free what our oligarchs who own Russia have to pay
extra for, you don't need our oligarchs
you have your own
will you say no?)))
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@dylanvogler2165 ==At that time the Muscovites, modern day Russians, managed to unite the principalities of what is now Russia.==
and present-day Ukraine (Hetmanate ended with the Pereyaslav Rada)
=At that time it is already noted that Ruthenians (a term first used for all Rus' but at this time only for what are now Ukrainians)==
currently, only a small part of the population living in the west of Ukraine and a little further west is called "Rusyns"))
== and Muscovites have different languages, traditions and dress (with Moscovites resembling their Tatar overlords in dress and hairstyles).==
they communicated in the same language (apart from a large number of Polish borrowings from former subjects of the Polish king). Russian Russian the agreement in Pereyaslavl was written in Russian and was understandable to all literate
Bogdan Khmelnitsky called himself Russian repeatedly
== and Muscovites have different languages, traditions and clothes (and Muscovites resemble their Tatar overlords with clothes and hairstyles)..==
"crest" on the head, crooked cold steel, famous Ukrainian "pants"... is it about Russians, and not about Ukrainians-Ottomans-Mongols?)))
==The term Ukrainian in indeed a modern term, but it describes a people that has been a distinct cultural group for centuries and has just been given a different name. ==
"The "cultural group" having lived in Russia for centuries, considered itself Russian until the nineteenth century (inclusive)
==Your version of history is an imperialist myth literally copied from Putin and full of amateur historian mistakes.==
these are historical facts. which you cannot refute with nonsense, of which you have written quite a lot here (though not all)
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@wendigo6825 == Только русский народ может избавиться от Путина, но у него долгая печальная история страданий от жестоких правительств, так что им легко это принять. С другой стороны, проигранная война с Японией привела к восстанию, Первая мировая война привела к революции, а война в Аганистане привела к распаду империи, так что некоторая надежда есть.
Здесь нет джек-пота - война Путина приведет к голоду и беспорядкам на Ближнем Востоке и в Африке. Мир будет долго страдать из-за эго одного человека.==
а.. все из-за одного человека...
и из афганистана, роняя тапки из-за него
и трамп, разумеется, из-за путина
и перманентный экономический кризис, тлеющий, как бы его не заливали деньгами, с восьмого года.. все из-за путина
я его еще больше зауважал )))
ведь нет же ни каких предпосылок.. не было майдана, уничтожившего конституционную украину, с печенками нулланд
не было тридцати лет войн, устроенных сша
не было подтасовок на последних президентских выборах
ни чего этого не было
а если было, то виноват путин. ведь так?
вы примитивны. вы более плоские чем камбала. а RT по уровню лживости, до вас как до луны
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@tommytomas-fr3sh ==there was no Ukrainian language before Soviet times! The Russian comes from the land that is now Ukraine! that's why the Russians fought in this war, they want to return the land of their ancestors. Russian Russians - Ukraine is a new term that the Soviets invented, they used to be all Russians, and Lenin wants to weaken the influence of Russians by creating people called Ukrainians. ==
the term "Ukraine" is found in texts of the 13th-14th centuries in Polish and Russian chronicles.. in the sense of the word "edge"... states. the outskirts...
the concept of political Ukrainians was developed and implemented by Mykola Mikhnovsky, at the beginning of the twentieth century.
The Soviet government intercepted the "Ukrainian concept" popular in the intellectual circles of Ukraine, changing it in its Soviet way
. . . . until 1917, there were no Ukrainians. there were Little Russians. (great Russians, little Russians, white Russians. great russia, little russia, white russia - official terms of RI)
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@Scapestoat ==I am not so sure that that is true. Not only are there documents from a thousand years ago describing the events.==
there are no direct sources, as far as I know,
basically, it's after 200-300 years
"based on"
====AndRurik as a name is very Nose in origin as well.==
there are also alternative variants of the origin of the name
==And then there is the genetic evidence. Archaeological evidence, etc.==
there is no direct genetic evidence
the method of genetic evidence itself, for such cases, has not yet been sufficiently developed
after all, naturally, the "gene" of the Scandinavians, as neighbors, must somehow be present in any case. plus marriages in every generation with foreigners-foreigners
=That the Russian people are descendant from the Horse is clear.=
there are no direct archaeological
indirect ones-of course
, of course, the Scandinavians were in Russia many times
, but, in itself, this does not prove anything except that they were (or their things were :))
==That the Russian people are descendant from the Norse is clear.==
the most developed and probable theory of all
, but not the only one
== As my intent ws only to make fun of that Russian troll. :)==
+++)))
I support! trolling a troll is sacred))
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@dylanvogler2165 == about this you are correct as well. Orcs love to blame Ukraine and Belarus for the territories taken from Poland/Romania even though it was Moscow which annexed the territories into these states, not the two countries themselves.==
"orcs" know that fascists will never tell the truth
but "democrats" love fascists very much, of course
of course, the "democratic" fascists will never say that the Russian lands "taken away" from Poland, they can now honestly give back if they consider them "taken away".
they will only accuse the USSR (where there were more than enough Ukrainians and Belarusians in power) of "aggression" and will sell what their Soviet ancestors did, spitting on their graves. and the "taken away" will never be given back. and don't even mention such a possibility))
=About Women, they love to bring that up, whilst the USSR itself is responsible for massacres in ww2. Against the same people no less (Katyn Forest), so it is a bit hypocrite of the yeah.==
по катыни...
разумеется ревнители "свобод" и "демократии", предпочитают версию геббельса, и никакую другую.
уж очень явно выглядят предпочтения "демократий" к фашистам.
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@eremstemero8823 ==Дима, у меня нет ощущения, что здесь есть какое-то противоречие.
Я просто не понимаю, как мы можем здесь, в разделе комментариев Youtube, прийти к согласию относительно элементарных определений. Очень важно, чтобы мы оба знали, о чем говорим. Легко может случиться так, что мы будем использовать такие термины, как истина или факты, но понимать их по-разному.
Такая дискуссия была бы не только утомительной, но и бессмысленной.
Приветствую==
а это всегда довольно сложно. вне зависимости от того в комментариях ютуба происходит процесс или вовсе в реале.
везде свои плюсы и минусы.
если есть понимание и мотивация к ведению дискуссий на поиск общих понятий, это одно, если есть желание замкнуться в кругу своей секты, это другое.
других причин нет
пс. тем более, если понимать на сколько высоки ставки.
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@eremstemero8823 == Дима, мотивация есть. Но нам придется начать с самого начала и объяснить себе, откуда мы знаем то, что, как нам кажется, мы знаем.
Например, есть выдающийся российский историк Рой Медведев. В 1991 году он писал: "Печальная правда состоит в том, что у нас нет ни истории как науки, ни историков. У нас есть функционеры, которые 70 лет лгали об истории от имени партии. И они воспитывали других лжецов, которые воспитывали новых лжецов. Я не знаю, как выбраться из этого порочного круга.==
рой медведев- выдающийся пропагандист антисоветизма восьмидесятых годов...
собственно, этой фразой он характеризовал самого себя, в первую очередь. особенно по той причине, что он историком не был ни в какой степени. "философ", педагог, литературовед... но, по какой-то причине - "историк" ???
он написал массу биографий исторических деятелей.. в основном отталкиваясь на мемуары. и совершенно не большой массив (в сравнении с нынешним), документальных источников.
фолк-хистори. так называется этот жанр сейчас на западе.
в источниковедении, мемуары имеют "последнее значение" по достоверности. такова их цена. по сути, это литература.
в нулевые года (да и ранее, в девяностые. и даже в конце восьмидесятых) был открыт такой массив архивной документации, который обрабатывать десятилетиями.
это в россии.
с тех пор, историки (именно историки) выдали на горА, такое количество обработанной архивной информации, про советский период, что усвоить ее всю, обычному обывателю, крайне проблематично. но она разбивает сходу подавляющее количество антисоветского бреда, что было пущено в восьмидесятых или девяностых годах.
я "знаю" достоверно знаю, что медведев историком не был. он был антисоветским пропагандистом, и с удовольствием делал политический капитал на этом, используя запад.
я достоверно "знаю" что те источники, на основе которых он продвигал свои литературные произведения, были более чем не полными. особенно в сравнении с текущим моментом.
пс. и да, "партийные функционеры" сиречь, политики, любой партии, часто врут. но вы можете попытаться привести пример исключения из этого правила )
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==для каждого русского в Германии - зачем ты тут живешь если не хочешь быть в Германии, если тебе в России как дома, только вернись==
за украденным у нас... как и прочие мигранты из других стран, которых вы грабили и грабите
==, вернись, тогда можешь драться за Путина, никто не хочет люди которые за вас воюют, болтают и при этом сами не воюют за "свои" "мнимые" установки - трусы и отморозки
==
вот именно, вы- трусы и отморозки, то есть фашисты, которые наняли себе убийц загоняющих сейчас сотни тысяч простых украинцев на развязанную вами бойню руками убийц.
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@Ghreinos =Nobody carried out a coup in Ukraine, the Ukrainians did it themselves, there were no Americans fueling this demonstration==
true...
"no one demanded" from Yanukovych to surrender to the putschists
the US and the EU did not send dozens of emissaries to the Maidan, who spoke publicly on the Maidan
Nulland did not send the EU on a long journey, appointing Yatsenyuk as the new prime minister in the next telephone phrase...
"no one" guaranteed Yanukovych the preservation of the status quo if he stopped fighting street killers. instantly forgetting about their "guarantees"
as well as snipers, "no one" sent to shoot from buildings protected by the Maidan, so that later, when they came to power, the first thing to do was to cut down trees with bullets stuck in them, so that it could not be proved that they were shooting from those buildings that guarded the Maidan
as well as feeding and toilets for tens of thousands of people, it was the Ukrainians themselves who brought it from home))
you have an interesting globe. your own. unrelated to reality. ))
=in contrast to the separatist movements in Ukraine, where Russia sent the Wagner group and ==
Wagner was created at the end of the summer of the 14th year. of those who have already helped Ukrainians defend themselves from your tame fascists, who have already managed to kill more than a thousand people who disagree with the coup inspired by you.
where the Russian army was actually located (in Crimea), your fascist assassins did not dare to send to kill
== military equipment to support these separatists. ==
Donetsk and Lugansk, until tank columns and combat aircraft were sent to them, demanded only a special status within Ukraine: the right to a regional Russian language, cultural autonomy and greater economic independence (which was implemented in Ukraine a few years later by the Maidan authorities).
Ukraine controlled the border with Russia until August, while your fascists were killing and killing (it suited you and suits you now)
what could "Russian equipment" have been up to that time?
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@DSan-kl2yc I didn't say anything like that. I implied that in a battle of videos, Russia looks like a freaking monster with decapitations, castration, and endless videos of destruction and people killed.=
yes yes... Russia began this with mass killings on the Maidan, burning people, beheadings for the "glory of Ukraine", with the execution of prisoners, with the Azov torture chamber in Mariupol, with the trailer of the peaceful pro-Russian population with white bandages in Bucha. after all, it was not the safari battalion, consisting of former criminals, that first entered the Butch after the Russians left there and "stood" there for more than a day.
but, of course, despite the fact that for the period from 2014-2022, in the conflict zone, the OSCE found that 80% of the dead civilians were killed by the Ukrainian Kiev fascist side... you don't care.
You NEED to mold a monster out of Russians. and "your sons of bitches.". they're yours.. and you are for "freedom and democracy"
, so they are not terrorists, not murderers, not fascists.
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@gilh3947 ==ivanski, fasciski, naziski, get of bro?==
don't disguise yourself, the Russian-speaking animal
is a lying and cowardly accomplice of the fascists who killed in Kiev in February 2014, near Korsun-Shevchenko, in Kharkov, Odessa, Mariupol...
and who was not going to stop killing-killing-killing-killing-killing... Ukrainians, for the fact that they did not agree with the coup d'etat, in which you sold your independence for lace panties and cookies
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@jonathanbowen3640 =="shot down by what? MANPADS?)))
there's nothing else." Threats to Russian air forces are Stingers, recently Star streak missiles(which are fast enough to hit any jet even at mid altitudes and avoid most countermeasures) and probably patriots and sky sabres soon if not already, plus the current and future S300s. Plus other ukranian and NATO equipment I don't have time to mention. Its not just Manpads though they are enough to take down low flying and slow Russian craft and missiles (which is most of Russians air capability)==
а.. то есть, то, чего у украины сейчас нет )
"is this the same advantage that the f22 lacks? )" So the F22 would operate in tandem with AWACS, F35s (5th gen of course) and most 4.5gen aircraft, so F15, F18s, Eurofigters, Growelers, And Rafales as all of these can communicate and link to the F22s Pluss forces on the ground. This is why NATO is so superior to Russia in the holistic sense. It's true combined arms. So everything is linked and everyone knows everything that relevant to them. ==
the Su-56 and Su-35 have everything they need
- I don't know. didn 't check the information )
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==It's because the elderly german-russians only watch russian tv.==
this is because your "free" TV has not been told for 8 years how your fascist puppets, whom you brought to power on the Maidan, spitting on the guarantees you gave to Yanukovych, were killed by thousands for their views
no... of course that's not the point. after all, even if you were shown the murders of your "wards", their terror, torture, burning, you would still, out of fascist habit and non-Russian, worry about the fascists.. isn't it?
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