Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "The Jimmy Dore Show"
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Costs: Canada, rich European countries 5,000 - 5,500 USD, the US plus 9,000 (WORLD RECORD) the outliers are UK with ONLY 3.900,-- and Japan around
3,800. - source World Bank 2014, per capita healthcare expenditures in USD. - UK is doing great costwise, but there are complaints about waiting times, looks like the conservative government tries to defund the NHS to ram through a partial privatization. (Defunding means the public system will not work as well anymore and that provides the pretext for the "fix").
As for claims that the rich European countries have bad healthcare
services, waiting times - no they don't ! - as I know from experience (Austria
Germany, costs USD 5,400 resp. 5,600 / 8 resp 82 million inhabitants, in both
countries the citizens are on average older than in the immigration country
U.S. - which means a cost DISADVANTAGE, older people need more care and they
get the more costly treatments).
All other wealthy nations DO have private for profit and profitable
insurance companies - and health care is just not one of their business
niches.
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+Jonathan C. To be fair hydrolectric is only an option if the country is lucky enough to have the topography and streams for that. And ... what marketing genius came up with the term "natural gas" as it is used in the US. Like "natural crude oil"? It is fossil fuel, mainly methane. In the US it usually means fracked gas, a highly agressive method to extract gas from shale rock. (as opposed to or instance the gas fields of Russia where they can extract the gas just like that.
The bad thing is that it is almost unavoidable that Methane before it is burnt will leak (either during extraction or because of pipeline leaks). It is clean where it is burnt and the burning process can be very well controlled (ideal for industrial processes). There is this claim that coal has a much worse carbon footprint that Methane. That is only correct if the leaked quantity of Methane is not more than 2 % (if I remember correctly). Estimates are that the losses are much higher. Not that I am a fan of coal.
Methane is a greenhous gas - like CO2 but 28 times more effective. And when it finally breaks down in the atmosphere, a part of it becomes CO2, another fairly stable greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.
With fracking there are the aggressive chemicals in the water, with which they break the gas out of the rock. Extraction may release dangerous elements from deep down in the earth (like mercury or radioactive elements). There is the use of huge quantities of water - they do not or cannot recycle the water. The risk to pollute aquifers, that cannot be cleaned, that water will stay poisoned maybe for thousands of years. Some companies have the lakes of the waste water in open ponds . Volatile Organic Compounds (highly toxic, these gases are really dangerous, think cancer, brain damage, especially dangerous for children, skin damage). In the video I saw the company had a fan over the pond to help with the evaporating. Not sure - the narrative was it decreases the volume of the waste water, they are supposed to take care of. I doubt that - maybe it is to decrease the content of the really bad stuff so they are allowed to dump it somewhere ? Anyway there are special expensive cameras that make these fumes visible - I saw that on the web (maybe a teaser for gasland).
And last but not least an increased risk for earthquakes. But only low to medium intensity, so no worry. Except that the industry is allowed to pump waste water - that can be from other industrial processes - into the earth. Of course an earthquake could open leaks in layers that were supposed to hold that poisonous waste water. So it could seep through cracks into areas where you don't want it.
What could possibly go wrong with natural gas in the US ?
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Tim Kaine maybe isn't that bad (Jimmy called him a "right winger"). In person he seems to be a very nice guy. He was a missionary abroad (that is a mixed bag) - that COULD however mean he has a heart for disadvantaged people. And he experienced people living under poverty. That can help with a sensible human - shape their worldview. So he is maybe not so much of a rightwinger (not sure about his corporate votes and where he gets money from). Of course his private view on abortion differ from that of the party. Would he have defunded Planned Parenthood ? Hell, no. Would he be open to arguments, lets improve sex-ed, access to contraception. Let's make it easier for people to HAVE the kids (even the unplanned ones). - Maybe.
I think even Tim Kaine COULD have won the presidency - he might have had some appeal to Conservative voters. Because he IS GENUINELY CONSERVATIVE (like Jimmy Carter appealed to Southern Christian folks). - Like Sanders is "forgiven" for his progressive views (gay marriage, pro-choice)in his state. Burlington under Sanders as mayor become a refuge for queer people in the 80s !!! - It was like, he didn't think they should be discriminated against. Sure Burlington was much more progressive than the rest of rural Vermont. Still - this was BEFORE it was chic, this were the 80s in a 30,000 citizen town.
- The citizens KNEW he took a stand because he thought it was the right thing, as it was his habit to stand up for what he thought was right
Oh, well.
People will tolerate you to be honest and standing up for unpopular views if the total package is O.K. - it means you will be honest with policies that will affect them much more - like gentrification, taxation, energy policy, healthcare, .....
One could see that in effect when Sanders had a speech at Liberty U (during the primaries). In the Q & A of course abortion came up - "Here we will respectfully agree to disagree". The hall packed full with young students from conservative families. He was received very well, despite being pro choice.
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Gen. Wesley Clark learned in 2001: We are going to war with 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Liva, Somalia, Sudan, finishing off with Iran.
..... Iran never GOT money from the US (or elsewhere). ACCOUNTS (over which the US can exert control) that belong to Iranian citizens, corporations or maybe even the state had been FROZEN. In the Atom deal it was agreed that the sanctions would be lifted (when Iran adhered to certain requirements, that would take some months) and that the US would let the people to whom the money belongs access the money. Not sure if the accounts were de-frozen, the sanctions were NOT lifted but shortly after the Iran deal extended ! even though the Iranians did hold their part of the deal (as confirmed by the other parties that co-negotiated the Iran deal, Germany, Italy the International Atomic Engergy Agency).
So the sanctions are baseless, not that the US ever bothered about that when putting sanctions in place (Cuba). When the deal was signed I thought Iran had managed to get itself off the kill list - but no. If you remember how pissed off the Israelis and the Republicans were, maybe the Obama administration or the deep state wants to placate Israel (and American Jewish donors).
Of course the Obama administration is pissed off that Iran along with Russia helped Syria withstand the US regime change attempt. And last year ISIS was stronger, and Iran helped fight ISIS. Maybe Iran seems less useful than a few months ago.
The sad thing is that president Rouhani had to defend the deal against the hardliners in Iran as well. The president is usually not that powerful in Iran, but he played his cards well. The citizens were happy about the deal (maybe they thought they did not have the target on their back anymore). The US still being hostile against Iran weakens of course the position and internal power of the relatively moderate Rouhani - as if that was the intention of the US.
If the hardliners in Iran prevail, Iran will remain rigid and theocratic. If the country would open up (and the Iranians are more than ready for it, they are very young (average age) and interestingly very friendly towards US citizens. No need to give up on them, they are hungry to participate and communicate with the world, they are not Arabs but Persians, their culture is different. Women have to wear the headscarf (even tourists) but they can drive, hold a job, teach, be a TV anchor, go to college etc. Although they are Muslim and conservative when it comes to family values, they are not as extrem as the Saudis. Well the religious hardliners are as extrem as the Saudis, but I think the majority of Iranians would be glad to have a modern state foundation not the Sharia Law forced on them by some religious extremists.
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Alexander (you know the Greek conquerer who died around 360 B.C) knew better. Troops can travel through Afghanistan, but the country is a military nightmare. 10 % is more flat or low hills, the rest is middle to high altitude. Mountains, valleys, caves, more remote areas than larger settlements, lots of opportunities for an underground army. As the Soviet Union found out as well. The US had armed the foreign mercenaries (Saudis etc.) = the jihadists with stinger rockets so that took care of the SU helicopters. The US wanted the Stinger rockets back after the SU left the country without having accomplished anything. The "rebels" thought otherwise.
So the SU army under a dictatorship (which is an strategic advantage in war times) could not succeed in Afghanistan but the US under Cheney/GWB in 2001 thought they could. (GWB prepared for that war in SUMMER 2001, 9/11 was the pretext to bomb Afghanistan and that war was started in Oct. 2001). Of course once civil order is destroyed and you have the mess, you cannot just leave the country to itself (well it would return to tribal wars and more likely another group like Taliban would take over, like the situation was in 2001 when GWB thought he had to intervene. ISIS finds it also attractive since the Russians and recently even the US give them trouble.
The only solution to avoid slaughter of civilians AND another safe haven for terrorism (Libya anyone - the US never learns) would be a costly longterm UN occupation aka peace keeping mission, ALL suppliers of weapons abstaining from supplying any weapons (incl. to the Saudis and others who might want to make the middle man) AND a long term economic program to help the Afghans. Maybe in 10 years time the country would be stable enough for self governing (and for an economy that does not depend on drugs - US soldiers guard poppy fields, Michael Moore claims that the brother of the Afghan president is the boss in the drug deal).
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you watched some videos of John Bolenbaugh, did you ? (Jordan Chariton from TYT Politics interviewed him, video title DAPL's Worst Nightmare: Big Oil EXPOSED By Whistleblower TYT Politics Everybody else, it is well worth your time P.S. Watched a Thom Hartman RT segment, he had a union guy in the studio, they talked about what he thinks about the Trump administration. DAPL was mentioned and that Trump granted it. The union guy: Yes we were always for that project, so that is good, Yes we know they are only temporary, but at least they are good paying jobs. And TPP gone is good, that is good too (here I agree). John Bolenbaugh in that Jordan C. video (more to the end): I am a union guy. I am not against pipelines per se. If they were thoroughly controlled and immediately repaired if they find a leak, there would be more than enough permanent jobs.
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No idea if Sanders sold out or was pressured or if he chose the lesser evil and absolutely wanted to keep Trump out of office.
However, the vacation lake house they got in summer 2016 for 600k they financed (at least partially) with the sale of the house which Jane had inherited from her mother.
And yes he has 3 houses now, 1 regular home in Burlington (where he was mayor), and a row house in D.C. (seems to be a usual solution for long time representative).
As mayor and then especially in Congress and Senate he got paid good salaries, I assume his wife had good positions when he became more influental in Vermont (board of an university etc.) and I guess his books are selling well. So it is entirely plausible they can afford the last purchase on their own. Moreover there is no way 600k do not show up in the books somewhere. Do you really think Sanders or the DNC would be that stupid to make themselves vulnerable ?
If a "bribe" is intended it is delivered in POSTITIONS - positions that allow a politician to get favours from donors. That could be:
1) Campaign donations: remember 27 USD per donation ! he does not need anyone to get that money
2) Politicians are not allowed to take money for personal gain while in office. But of course familiy members can have cushy jobs or impressively paid speaking gigs, or they get jobs as consultants - see Clinton Foundation. Or speaking fees for Bill Clinton.
3) And of course the big reward of the donors is AFTER the political career: Lobbyist jobs, consulting, think tanks, maybe in television, board member. And author of books that will be sold with the help of ... whoever. I suppose some memoires ARE bestsellers and would sell like regular books but some seem to be a front for financing an ex politician.
So DID Sanders get bribed by getting a position where he can make money for himself later (with the help of donors) ?
Or would he need the influence of the Democratic party to sell his books.?
I think it was smart from him to get the position of "Outreach" in the Democratic Party while being an Independent (he switched back immediately after he endorsed HRC and dropped out as presidential candidate of the Democratic Party).
He is not part of the machine - That means he could go Third Party without being accused of defection (well at least not by reasonable people)
AND he can leverage his strength - that he was able to fire up people with his message. That is what gave him influence in the race and he is widening that influence. He is given air time now on television - they cannot sweep him under the rug like they did.
If he criticizes (very mildly but anyway) the Democrats that defected the vote for his recent amendment (allowing import of drugs from Canada to the US to lower costs) - the Dems were not pleased. At all. The amendment would have passed with 6 more votes, 12 or 13 Democrats defected, even some Republicans voted for it (free market and stuff).
And there is not much they can do in retalitation when he calls them out. He does not need them - but they need him.
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+ Gru ber I live in a (still) wealthy country in Europe and No, Socialism has not failed - it was never implemented on this planet * (see also Richard Wolff - Socialism for Dummies). As for Socialdemocratic principles they softened capitalism for some time, served many now wealthy countries well, right now neoliberalism is eroding the progress we made after WW2.
I can state that the left leaning (usually moderate) politicians after WW2 were most of the time folks with convictions and a spine. Being to the left in the 30s was not for the faint of heart. People who were out for money, fame and a career would not bother - and it became outright dangerous when the fascists took over (Italy, Germany, Austria, Spain, I think also Poland and Hungary were very rightwing before WW2).
A post war Austrian politician came from the concentration camp directely in the provisory government (the governmental "board" allowed by the Allied Forces). Of course some Social Democrats were lucky that they had the status of "high ranking political prisoners" - they were not kept in the worst camps and had a chance to survive.
When the wall in Berlin fell and the Soviet Union gave up the control of Poland, Eastern Germany, Hungary, etc. - I thought it would be the economic miracle all over again.
These countries had a usually well educated workforce, often with technical skills, cohesion within the population, low criminality rate. They had demand in consumer goods. Their societies were stable if somewhat restricted in their economic opportunity. The wealthy countries could provide technology and capital if needed. It would be a blast.
The Economic Miracle did not happen. Neither I or my fellow citizens, nor the politicians (incl. Kohl of Germany) or the media and the economists under the neoliberal spell realized that that post war recovery was due to good wages, high taxes, a strictly regulated financial sector and only somewhat fee market conditions with a lot of quotas, import restrictions, tariffs.
My country developed a thriving export industry in that time. No tax evasion or undermining the domestic workforce with outsourcing, free movement of labour (from countries that are much poorer) etc.
In short Western Europe, the U.S. and Japan could develop under relatively sheltered conditions while the newcomers in the 90s were unprepared to be suddenly exposed to the neoliberal onslaught. And it shows in the results.
* the Soviet satellite states had dictatorships, and their economic model was STATE CAPITALIS - and Lenin called it that when assessing the "progress of the revolution". (the state OWNED and more importantly CONTROLLED the MEANS OF PRODUCTION - not the workers as would be the crucial idea in Socialism/Marxism !)
The Bolshevics and Mao used a very popular idea in their bitterly poor countries, and they implemented populist elements (public healthcare, education). So there were a lot of Socialist elements (also that no one could control large real estate or large manufacturing sites).
They did not apply the MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT - the workers control the manufacturing and agriculture = means of production (where, what to produce, sales, hiring people, salaries - incl. for top management).
This IS DEMOCRACY IN THE WORKPLACE. Examples: the Kibbuz movement or co-ops (like Mondragon in Spain with 100,000 workers/owners).
Lenin, Stalin and Mao knew what they were doing when they left that deeply democratic (almost subversive ;) ) element out - this would not be compatible with a political dictatorship.
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1/4 General Wesley Clark learned in 2001 !! : We will go to WAR WITH 7 COUNTRIES IN 5 YEARS, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, FINISHING OF WITH IRAN. That was decided a few weeks after 9/11, Afghanistan was already being bombed then, so it is not even mentioned on the US WAR AND GLOBAL DOMINANCE BUCKET LIST. Gen. Clark made that speech several times, if you have got time, watch the speech from fora.tv (here he gives also explanations and insights into the power politics of the Gulf War 1991 and the role of the Soviet Union /Russia). I promise it is WELL WORTH YOUR TIME and not boring (but you might get furious!). There are shorter clips with similar statements (4-5 minutes). I recommend one of the short Democracy Now clips because of the reaction of the auditory (that was a live interview on a stage).
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+ goonez the Cuba Crisis was in the 1950s (1953), then Chruschtow was president of the Soviet Union, (Putin was born 1952), there was some thawing of the daily politics after the death of Stalin, for a short time there could be talk about the camps in Sibera (political dissidents). He was a heavy drinker, somewhat impulsive. I think the Cuban Crisis damaged him, the Polit bureau (a lot of them) were very suspicious of him anyway, Stalin had goverend with a "iron fist". He stood for opening, even trying out new things.
We know from Robert Kennedy (Justice minister under JFK) that JFK promised Chruschtow that the missiles from Turkey would be removed within a few months. These misssiles had made the Soviets very uneasy - they unlike JFK - assumed them to be a threat they could not counteract. JFK thought less of the potential of these weapons. Actually JFK before had asked his military adviser if it was possible to remove them, that somehow did not happen. Anyway some time later the Russians in "retaliation" got missiles to Cuba . Cuba in the beginning felt them to be their protection, they always had to envision the next attack of the US. Then the shit hit the fan.
The secret agreement after about 10 days of wold crisis was that the Soviet Union would remove their missiles from Cuba and the US would do the same some months later with the US missiles in Turkey. AND that the deal was off when the SU mentionned that they were promised something in exchange. (So JFK obviously tried to save face). And Chruschtow lost face, which might have underminded his position in the Soviet Union (in the Polit Bureau to be specific). Robert Kennedy the brother and confidant of the president said that the threat to blew the deal off if the concession of the US came out was a bluff. JFK would not have risked a nuclear war.
The US missiles were removed without much ado some months later.
Chruschtow did not remain for long president and was replaced by a more "conventional" candidate.
It seems the both leaders more or less stumbled into the crisis and desperately tried to retreat without making things worse. We know from Robert that Generals (at least some of them) advised JFK to launch the first strike ("As long as there is time"). Actually in these years many in the Pentagon believed that the US had an technological advantage, and should strike first before the Soviet Union caught up. Some (in the Pentagon) theorized or even believed in winnable nuclear warfare. JFK was not one of them, and ordered that no consequential military action could be taken without him consenting - obviously to avoid that one of the general tried to create a situation of "no return" and tried to enforce a decision towards war.
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